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You have a water bottle, use it.

Ha! I was out there a few months back surveying. Not only do motorists speed through the stop sign at peebles, but also roll through at celeron.

I believe yur yinzstigator is in the house in the middle of the Forbes /Peebles triangle opposite the bus stop.

I haven't but I don't normally take that route. However this morning there was someone stopped at the intersection permanently while talking on his cell phone.

I had some fat old guy on a wife beater at 45th and Davison in lawrenceville tell me "you know, you need to stop at the stop sign, girl" when I was stopping at it this weekend. I was annoyed. I told him I was stopping. I lived on that corner. I should have told him to stand there and tell every motorist to stop, since they mostly seem to roll it. Didn't get into it.

Haven't encountered your stop sign troll.

Wow...wasn't expecting to see my street mentioned.

Unless there's a long line of traffic, drivers rarely come to a full stop on Forbes Ext at the end of Celeron Street. I realize that doesn't justify a guy yelling at you before you've even had a chance to obey the stop sign, but it might help explain the local frustration a bit.

in my neck of the woods, these trolls are seasonal. They come out the first week of school. They are the parents of new kindergardeners or transfer students or kids newly taking the bus. The second week of school, they give up and sit with their children inside their SUVs at the bus stop, rather than letting the kids stand at the corner with the crossing guard. Then when a bus stops, the crossing guard has to herd the children from SUVs all over the intersection into the bus, and it's even more dangerous than it was before.

Gotta love the burbs.

I haven't encountered this troll, but I'm trying to prepare my response just in case I do. I ride past that stop sign every day. I stop every time. Some drivers stop too; a lot don't.

Was it someone just yelling from their yard, or what? Who has time to stand around concern trolling like that?

Also, ejwme, that 'burbs description is soooo familiar to me. I always felt sort of weird since my parents refused to do things like that when all the other kids in my neighborhood got to sit in their moms' heated/air-conditioned cars while waiting for the bus (yes, they left their SUVs running because heaven forbid their kids experience anything outside of room temperature). Obviously, I am so very thankful now that they did not engage in that kind of ridiculous behavior. Bleh.

I do sort of understand people yelling at repeat offenders who speed or run stop signs in their neighborhoods (cue mental footage of my dad in his gardening overalls yelling at random teenagers driving 45mph through our subdivision), but just yelling at strangers who haven't even done anything wrong yet is highly obnoxious.

H-m, I am living in "burbs". Bus stop is always full of kids. Starting preschoolers and kidergartens, and ending up with highschoolers. Somehow children are always separated from parents and playing/waiting on the corner lawn away from parents. And most parents are chatting across the street. Somehow most of the people stop at stop sign. Intersection is not that pleasant and it plays probably a pretty big role in complete stopping.

No troll this morning... and no I wasn't trolling the troll by going out of my way. Post 4th of July commute = less traffic.

@pearmask -- I think I saw someone on their porch at the last house the left hand side of the street. (I was facing Forbes ave.)

However, I didn't look around. I didn't ride in today, so I'm not sure if they were out. (I'm still taking it easy due to the bronchitis that prevented me from finishing the tourdecure...)