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Put it in mah belly!

A kid's seat works pretty well too since it has straps, or a kid to hold it for you (kidding,kidding) . Avoiding unnecessary vibration is key.

The Workman's Utilikilt can carry a sixer. AND I bet the hammer loop would accommodate a polo mallet nicely.

Both of those are sweet. Wouldn't your legs hit the booze though?

Let's see if I can start another flame-war/philosophical discussion with an image that may be in bad taste.

(Maybe NSFW)

I don't understand why thinking of bagpipes when seeing a man in a kilt might be NSFW.

Is that what the kids are calling that these days?

$22 six-pack holder when I have a messenger bag that holds a 30-pack?!

those bottles are empty, or at least opened.

With the bumpy ride around here, I'd think carrying 6 full, unopened bottles in the cardboard holder from the weak two-ply paper handle is asking for a rear flat and an unquenched thirst.

I used to carry 3 growlers in my backpack.. Isolated them from the bumpy ride a bit. Would use a tshirt or towel to go inbetween them so they wouldnt clink around.

+1 sloaps - There is no way I would trust that cardboard.

Babybjorn (Google it) for the Growler and baby sling for the six-pack.

Having kids is great!

So, in ongoing attempts to lighten up on the car, I'm going to try to go pick up my son from the soccer field like this, seems simple enough:





I'll see how it works in reality.

So, is the idea here that once you're at the soccer field, you put the wheel on and you both ride home?

If you can get him to tow you like that, go for it.

Woo, hoo! Worked spectaculary well, Pseuda, yes, rode to the field, disconected, and rode home separately. You could definitely take a bike to pick up a friend or vice versa, just by carrying a foot of safety wire and some small vice grips. Tough to handle at a stop or on slow turns, the back bike wants to flop. And the wire failed just when I stopped when I got where I was going, because of that. Next time I will just use a couple more wraps of wire, but I will definitely try this again!

Since the wire is doing nothing to prevent the "flop," I wonder if you could attach the fork to your rack by just tying with with strips of a torn up tshirt (or rope), then working on some kind of removable jig to prevent the handlebars from turning? I have no idea what such a jig would look like, but maybe a bungee could go from each fork end to one side of the bottle rack?

This is very cool: thanks for sharing the idea!

Another idea would be to more securely attach a "spare" QR front hub to your rack...

If someone knew they would be doing this a lot, they could mount one of these to rear rack http://www.yakima.com/shop/bike/truck-bed/blockhead , which I may yet do. But I kind of enjoy that I was able to this with a few minutes thought and some wire. Which means anyone could do it as needed, and no special preparation.

How is the "spare" front wheel attached?

Whenever I have to take my bike to the shop because it is in such lousy condition, I wish I had a rig just like this. This will be my new solution whenever anything is kind of screwed up and I don't feel like walking a couple miles over to the shop.

"A picture is worth a thousand words."

This is why this board is so awesome. Just point to that post and say "Yeah, do that."

Ian - I just laced a nylon toe strap through the spokes and around the frame, with the wheel resting on the crank. I always carry a long toe strap on the rear rack for lashing down random junk on rides. It was completely stable.

Nice thread... can't believe I stumbled on it. And I thought the title was about transporting small kids.

Haven't seen an easy solution to the Growlers-via-bike scenario, aside from the regular messenger bag solution offered here.

Attaching it to the frame directly has issues w/ shock, and potential glass breakage. And if not bagged, the beer gets skunked by the sun by the time you arrive at your destination... ruining it and defeating the purpose of the whole trip, not to mention being somewhat heartbreaking.

At the risk of coming off like I'm selling something, we now carry neoprene Growler Bags that have a super sturdy, long thin shoulder strap. I like them for their insulating properties as well as the strappage.

Or failing that, you can always improvise a messenger bag from a free grain bag at the brewery. They aren't pretty, but with a pocket knife, you can make a couple cuts, tie a knot, and be on your way in about 5 min. I've made a few of these, so there may be some out there in the wild.

Hope this helps!

PS: +1 on the bike-on-bike transportation method. That's pretty awesome.

My solution involves a perfectly sized mylar+bubble wrap type bag that they throw out at work. It fits like a glove inside my crappy nashbar panniers, and holds a growler and about an equal amount of ice[packs]. Keeps the beer cold and the light out. It does bounce around a little, but not as much as strapping it right to the rack.

Question for Scott @ East End:

Assuming one has devised some clever means of securing the precious growler to the bike or a pack, etc., it is still going to suffer a great deal of bouncing around, etc.

Does all of the vibration and bopping around abuse the beer or degrade it in some way?

I don't want to speak for Scott -- he can present his expert opinion on the subject.

My personal experience is the beer tastes just as good after a good bouncing around vs carefully hauling it home in the car. I think as long as the growler is full, and sealed up, there really isn't much headspace for the dissolved gas to escape to. All the guys at growler hours doing the filling seem to make it a point to fill them up as much as they can. I always let it sit for a minute or two after I get where I'm going though.

what dwillen said. also: bottles are slightly different. bottled beer (well, good bottled beer) contains a yeast sediment that referments the beer in the bottle, providing carbonation and often a cleaner, more refined beer over time. you don't really want to consume this. so if you tip the beer or turn it upside down and the sediment scatters through the bottle, you're going to want to wait some time for it to settle back down. it's not going to kill you to drink it, but a) your beer will taste more like yeast and less like yeast byproducts, and two) you may experience some, err, enhanced digestion over the next day or so.

growlers, coming from the keg, don't have this issue, and as dwillen says, with limited head space, the carbon dioxide will tend to stay dissolved in the beer, providing you with plenty of carbonation when you get home. still, you may want to let it sit for a bit before cracking it.

Thread-jack: Drink your Vitamins! It's the gods way of saying beer is good for you.

eh. that's a van steenberge ad. or it might as well be. and i prefer brettanomyces!

dwillen is correct. Vibration and shock won't hurt the beer. I'm more concerned about the glass jug failing if it's bumping against something hard...like a rear rack or a frame. Then again, we've accidentally BOUNCED those jugs, full of beer, on the brewer's concrete floor... but I definitely don't recommend it. The odds are against you.

And yes, we fill to the top, or make sure there is foam on top, to displace the O2, and help the shelf life a bit.

I should also mention that since all our beer is unfiltered, you will often see some yeast sediment on the bottom of your Growler (especially if you're not drinking it the same day it's filled). Try to keep that in the jug when you pour yourself a glass, but drinking small quantities won't effect the flavor measurably.

Cheers.

An alternative method to what Bill did:

Had this setup from Gibsonia to Morningside last March

Yesterday, somebody told me about seeing someone riding a bike and carrying a bike, in East Liberty (I think).

I would love to see this on ELB , trailing the Car Bumper Bike with a WIDE LOAD banner!

Is it held on with more than the U-lock I see?

Edmonds, The fork block towing idea works fantastic. I've been towing bikes around like that for a year. A simpler alternative is to just move the fork so the dropouts both slide into the spaces on the rack, and connect the skewer to them underneath the platform. Works just as well and no modification is needed unless your rack doesnt have the right spacing for it. Definitely recommend either way if you are actually planning on towing a bunch of bikes around all the time. I usually just use the shoulder strap on my pannier to hold the front wheel.

Speaking of panniers, whats wrong with just throwing beer in those? I've never had bottles or growlers break from knocking into each other in one.

Not East Liberty, Regent Square, and not affixed to the bike, just carried over his shoulder. So you guys aren't the only ones.

On second thought, he could've been a rustler.