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Need Some Help Finding Bike for Big Guy

Big as in 6'5" and 295lbs.


It's for my recently retired father who told me last week that he's itching to get outside more often and that riding from Pgh to DC is near the top of his "bucket list". Although he's ridden a few borrowed or rented bikes in this century, he hasn't owned a bike since a knee surgery back in the 1980s.


I'd just take him down to the LBS and have them order up a 62cm Surly LHT w/26in wheels, but between us we'll be lucky to scrape together $500 for this bike.


Instead of a new hybrid-type thing, I'm inclined to try and find an old steel rigid fork mtb frame and buy some sturdy 26 in wheels. I can build up the rest with him. Anybody have (or even seen) such a frame in XXL or what I'm guessing would be 24-25inch sizes?


And before I drag him around to the LBSs to see what they suggest, can anybody point me toward some options for a new hybrid-type bikes that'd be suited to a guy his size/weight? Again, he'll need 26in wheels, at least a handful of gears, and (hopefully) the ability to attach racks/fenders. So far, our research has turned up little, but I know nothing about new hybrid or comfort-type bikes.


Any other advice or bright ideas?


dooftram
2011-07-07 19:53:29

I think your plan to find an old, big mountain bike frame is your best bet on your budget. You shouldn't have that much trouble finding a decent 20-22"+ mountain bike frame that will most likely have fender/rack eyelets for the DC ride, and will take canti/v brakes and big slick tires perfect for someone of his size.


While there aren't a ton of giant frames like that out there, the ones that do exist tend to sit around for a while. This is an instance where a check of the stock at Freeride is more likely to turn up something of quality.


bradq
2011-07-07 20:08:13

Also try thick bikes on the south side. They have a ton of older bikes and parts of bikes in their basement.


stefb
2011-07-07 20:11:59

Hey, what ever happened to fatguywithorangebike/terry/dbacklover?


Haven't seen him around?


atleastmykidsloveme
2011-07-07 23:39:34

295 may not be that bad... Apparently, there's a sizable - pun intended - "Clyesdale" contingent in the world of cycling. Clydesdales are male riders who are 200# and up.


I'd suggest researching "clyesdale bikes" or "cylesdale cycling" to get yourself started and educate yourself. By researching, you may at least narrow down your equipment needs (clothing, bike, helmet), riding style (road, offroad, leisurely trail) and price range ($$$ or $$$$), then when you go see Chris at Thick you'll have a better idea of what you're looking for in a bike, a helmet or other gear.


sloaps
2011-07-08 00:18:57

Kudos to your dad for putting this on his bucket list. If he's not active now, a shiny, new-ish comfort bike might be an awesome transition back into the sport, especially for the trails. It should feel good & maybe be something he likes looking at/showing off, too. (i.e. a new toy).


pseudacris
2011-07-08 03:08:26

to be honest, dont take the weight limits on bikes to seriously. My husband is 325lbs and rides a schwinn tourist which has a weight limit of about 200lbs. We searched for almost a year to find a bike with a hig enough weight limit and couldnt find anything in our budget (<$500). (Plus he loads it up with cargo!)


good luck on your search!


bikelove2010
2011-07-08 12:15:37

Sellwood Cycle, in Portlandia, currently has a decent selection of big used bikes in stock. They will ship. The downside is, of course, that you can't take them for a test ride.


bjanaszek
2011-07-08 12:27:20

I was around that weight (having already lost >50 lbs from just walking) when I started, but I'm about 8" shorter...so I can only speak to durability.


I simply got a cut-rate Schwinn "Mountain bike" from amazon as a starter. Cost right around $300 with shipping IIRC.


It was crazy heavy and the shocks were really only for show, but I never had any issues with it due to my weight... I rode that thing like mad when I was preparing for my trip to Wales. I did about 60-80 mi a week, and that was a mix of on road and off road(Frick mostly) riding.


That being said, having recently purchased a bike for a new cyclist, I have to say spending a little extra money for a lighter bike (or getting a used, good quality bike) will make a world of difference.


Specifically, the better quality bike the more likely they are to keep riding after the initial surge of bike riding.


The only thing that kept me going was that I had the goal of the Wales trip as a reward -- or punishment, depending on whether I trained or not.


myddrin
2011-07-08 13:34:59

i second brad's advice, try and find a monster rigid nineties mountain bike with eyelets and fender mounts. There may even be a frame like this at Kraynick's. Use the savings to build it up or have your favorite LBS build it up.


thelivingted
2011-07-08 14:40:47

Have you considered a Jamis Coda? It's a 700c set up, but it is a reynolds steel frame with good gearing for touring. It runs about $500 and has front and rear mounting points. The only real drawback is that it comes stock with 28mm tires. I ride a Kona Dew with 700c x 37mm tires (it has clearance for up to 60mm) and anything wider than the 37mm would be overkill for the rails-to-trails in my opinion. Also, I called Eddie's bike shop in State College just to ask about clearances and they said they had a Coda with 38mm tires on it and that it still had room for fenders, so I think it is definitely a bike worth considering on your budget.


headloss
2011-07-08 16:54:11

dooftram: BikeLove2010 almost hit the target with the Schwinn Traveler, an '80's bike, but to my thinking missed by a decade. (No offense intended, it's still a Schwinn, and that company prided itself on a lifetime warranty for its frames, so still a good choice.)

The absolute best reasonably priced choice for your Dad is a fillet brazed '70's Schwinn in the 26" (seat tube) size. An article on Sheldon's website about these quirky models can be found here. It will not have the appropriate brazed fittings for waterbottles, but one can work around that issue. It will be a bike he will come to love.

I own (and ride daily) a Sports Tourer made in September of 1972. I spent half a year looking for one on the cheap for touring, and as they are not really collector's items, it was less then a $100. There is not a lighter, stronger frame out there now for less then 3-4 grand. I weigh maybe 170lbs soaking wet with a pack on a winter day, but I wanted a touring frame which could handle a couple of hundred pounds (of additional cargo). Researched this thoroughly, and though no weight limit as such is assigned to this bike that I recall, the fillet brazing (as is used on tandems), internal sleeving (essentially double butting), and oversized cromo tubing used on the largest 26" (seat tube) model makes it one of the most recommended rides for clydes (on the bike forums).

It has a tremendously long wheelbase, and almost an 18" chainstay. If you compare the geometry with Rivendell's top of the line touring bike, you'll see Grant Peterson may have liberally borrowed from these models. Stripped of the stupid kickstand (1.2 pounds), fitted with old Suntour bar end shifters, scrapping the (chromed) steel toe clips, and absent the pie plate it weighs in at 24 lbs, (for the 24" model). I could go on singing praise to this bike, but I won't. I want to head out for chanterelles and boletes on my Sports Tourer. Instead, here's the best place I've found to seek one out. They have some bikes for sale, but if you search the used bike pricing guide, it generates a listing of people selling old rides at (generally) reasonable prices. Cheaply sometimes even. They don't have much right now (with a search for an ST), but I didn't extensively search for the Super Sport model, for example. Of course, try the other normal channels too.


Happy Trails! (Roy Rogers was Schwinn's spokesman...only thing he'd ride other then Trigger was a Schwinn!)


p.s. Oh yeah, if you find one stock in good shape as I did, it came equipped with a hefty butt-delightful Brooks B-15 leather saddle. (Seat post is gas pipe, but short so swap it out if you choose for a cromo... Stock centerpulls have the reach for 700C wheels, though the stock wheels are cast(!) aluminum and with double butted spokes and as strong as steel. I swap 700C's onto my ST and that sheds another couple of pounds... And the stock gearing on the ST was the widest for any road bike, so perfect for loaded touring or a big person. Derailer sucked though...)


fungicyclist
2011-07-08 21:24:31

Thanks for the replies. I've distilled them down, passed them along....and given my Dad a new nickname, Clyde (thanks Sloaps). We both like a project, so we're leaning toward finding a gigantic old mtb frame first and building something up. I'll try Thick, Kraynick's, etc. this week. If anybody happens to see one or know of one for sale, please lemme know.


Since he'll only be riding on rail trails/bike paths and roads, I'd like to consider 700c bikes too, but I've trashed a few wheels in the past and only weigh 180lbs. So, I tend to lean toward 26in. to be safe. Any thoughts on whether a sturdy 36 spoke 700c wheelset (with something like Sun CR18 rims) would work for a 295lb rider? I've already got barely used 37mm touring tires and fenders for 700c wheels laying around, so we could save nearly $100 right there.


dooftram
2011-07-10 16:45:02

For a big guy, wheels are a priority. Wheel quality is much more important than wheelsize as durability is concerned. Double walled rims, eyelets, and properly tensioned spokes are a must.


thelivingted
2011-07-10 22:40:32

I'm not heavy at all, and I've trashed 10 times as many 26" wheels as I have 700c wheels. I've only ever had high quality 700c wheels, and spent years riding around cheapo 26" ones.


dwillen
2011-07-10 22:46:18

It is too bad most companies stop at xl/22" for most bikes.


If you have trouble finding something for him used, depending on his build one of these might work (and are under $500):


http://www.konaworld.com/bike.cfm?content=bike

-only a 3 speed, but that is plenty for the GAP


http://www.khsbicycles.com/06_urban_x_11.htm

-Even has a rack!


Both these might need a stronger rear wheel to handle loaded touring and a 245 lbs rider.


Or look at ~$500 hardtail MTB and see if the shop would swap the suspension fork for a rigid model. Although a quick scan of the big three (Trek, Specialized, Giant) shows nothing over a 22" frame under $500.


And for the love of pete, don't waste time on 70's touring bikes.


eric
2011-07-11 01:42:57