craigslist shenanigans?

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pearmask
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Do you guys think there’s any reasonable explanation for why this guy has like 89 of the same blue Schwinn?:

http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/bik/3003415334.html

I ask because I think that women’s frame in front is reallllly cute… I’m sure it’s a mess, but I would still legitimately consider buying it if it weren’t for the fact that the post sketches me out


pearmask
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also I wonder if helmuts are anything like helments


salty
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my wild guess would be they were rentals?


chemicaldave
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Probably bought them all in bulk and is trying to make some side cash.


Marko82
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Rostraver township would be close to the GAP, so I think salty is right about them being rentals.


pearmask
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either explanation seems plausible enough. i usually ask enough annoying questions to scare away sketchy craigslist sellers well before i actually consider giving them money anyway, so maybe it’s worth a try if the guy might have an inexpensive frame that would fit me.

i just kind of want a summer project. i have tried to build a bike at freeride but i have yet to find a frame there because i’m too short for the vast majority of the frames they get (at least in terms of steel road bikes, which are what i’m interested in) :(


pearmask
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ah, yeah, marko, that makes sense.


edmonds59
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The womens frame in the front might actually be the only one worth messing with, it has an alloy crankset. Don’t pay $50 for it though, you’ll have another couple hundred in by the time you get wheels and all the other running parts.

The dark blue men’s frames have steel one-piece cranks, translates to – good for scrap.


pearmask
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Cool. I had a hunch it looked less useless, but I think I was mostly just swayed by the pretty color, so I’m glad to hear there was some truth to that. I need to learn more about components so that I can figure that kind of stuff out more confidently…


edmonds59
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pearmask, did you see this one?;

http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/bik/3018649224.html

At $275 he’s a bit out of whack, I wouldn’t give any more than 200. otoh it needs very little, and is Sweet. He’s right those rims are badass.


Pierce
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Can’t argue with “heavy duty” braze ons


pearmask
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I did, actually. I keep wondering whether it would be worth it. It’s probably exactly my size. And I’m shopping around for something touring-ish like a Cross Check or LHT anyway, so I’d probably greatly enjoy it. Problem is I think I’m too far into the new bike idea to be able to resist buying a new one, and things might get a little out of hand in terms of money and apartment space if I buy myself two touring bikes this summer. Hah. I might email that person anyway just to see if they’re willing to be talked down, though. It’s been up for weeks, so who knows.


pearmask
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Okay, I couldn’t resist. Sent an email and will call if I don’t hear back tomorrow. I had plans to buy the frame I originally mentioned for $25, but that seems like it might be falling through (partly because getting the bike from all the way out in Rostraver is turning out to be a giant pain), so I guess I might have space for another bike after all.

I’m trying to figure out what the fork is. Since it’s white and the frame is blue, I’m guessing they didn’t originally come together. Hmm.


edmonds59
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No it’s likely it’s the original fork, the white appears to match the white trim on the head tube panel. In another era that was common. It’s an ’80’s thing.


pearmask
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Ahhh okay, I see now. Thanks.


pearmask
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The guy says he’ll take $200 without the saddle and bar tape that he was originally going to throw in. I’m picky about saddles anyway and have an extra laying around, so that seems fine to me. Worth it?


Marko82
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I don’t have a clue about prices, but make sure the bike fits you first. A bike that doesn’t fit isn’t any good no matter how cheap you can get it.


pearmask
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Yeah, this is all conditional on the guy sending me back some measurements and letting me try the bike before I hand him the cash. From what I know about myself and the bike, it *should* be just about perfect, but depending on the geometry, who knows. I’ll bail if the fit doesn’t work out.


pearmask
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And if anyone has any extra tips for making sure it fits okay given a few moments to judge it in a Craigslist buying situation, please let me know :) I have a rough idea of what I’m looking for, but more information never hurts since what the bike feels like in 30 seconds ? what the bike will feel like after riding for a couple of hours


Marko82
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Sheldon says….

http://sheldonbrown.com/frame-sizing.html

Not super helpful, but it’s a start.


pearmask
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Yeah, I’ve read that one, and then of course there are the counter-opinions that choose other things as the “one most important thing about frame sizing”… sigh. My legs are short enough (and torso/reach relatively long enough, contrary to what is supposed to be the case for us girl people) that standover height has often been the limiting factor on bikes that might have been okay for me in terms of top tube length, so I’ll start there, and then we’ll see.


edmonds59
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You can get a dang nice saddle and bar tape for $75.

I could totally see that bike with a full on rando treatment,


pearmask
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Our imaginations have pretty much gone to the same place. Apparently someone else is also emailing this guy about the bike, so now I’m feeling competitive. Uh-oh.

Of course, if I have the rando bike, I might need to actually use it to do rando things someday. I definitely like Type 2 fun and the idea of spending inordinate amounts of time on my bike… hmmmm


reddan
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Of course, if I have the rando bike, I might need to actually use it to do rando things someday. I definitely like Type 2 fun and the idea of spending inordinate amounts of time on my bike… hmmmm

No good will come of such things. :-)

First you find yourself doing a 200K, then a 300…at that point, you realize that it didn’t really get any harder, so you feel all confident about tackling a 400K. Yeah, you were tired by the end of the 400K, but, if you do a 600K, it’s really only a 400 followed by a nice nap followed by a 200, and a 200 is cake by now.

Then you start thinking about how, after the first hour or so of Day 2 of the 600K, you didn’t feel bad at all, and the thought of a multi-day brevet like a 1000K seems almost reasonable.

And then you realize how much more fun it’d be if you bought a nice(r) camera, and replaced the battery-powered lights with a dynamo system, and got some bags that are more weatherproof.

And then you start planning your ride schedule a year in advance, focusing on big international events like Paris-Brest-Paris or London-Edinburgh-London. And then you’re lost, lost I say.

I’ll be happy to talk to you someday about all the reasons why rando is a terrible, terrible idea.


sew
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@reddan…it sounds like a slippery slope indeed.


myddrin
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I’ve not done rando, yet. But I can say, based on my experience so far…in my best yoda impersonation (which is terrible):

The pedal leads to the mile. The mile leads to the toodling. The toodling leads to the big hill. The big hill leads to the half century. The half century leads to the century. The century leads to suffering. And to the dark side suffering leads you.

ETA: “yet”


reddan
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Suffering is the feeling of common sense leaving the body.

Or something like that.


pearmask
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Yep, reddan, sounds like I definitely need to talk to you more about it and hear about why it is so addictive to make sure I never, ever get near that slippery slope. No matter how fun and awesome it sounds. Maybe I even need to try out just one 200K once I get a new bike, just to make sure I know firsthand how very bad of an idea it is so that I never get tempted to do it again.


reddan
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@pearmask: If you’re interested in such things, the Pittsburgh Randonneurs will be offering a back-to-back 200K weekend July 14th and 15th. We’re leaving Pittsburgh on Saturday morning and riding to Akron, enjoying a good night’s sleep, then reversing the route on Sunday. Folks are welcome to join for one or both days…see the website for details.

Also, I believe that we’ll be offering a few more 200Ks next year…I don’t know if it’ll be one every month, but there should be plenty of opportunities.


myddrin
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@reddan — will you be offering training rides again next spring? I may be ready to join the darkside.


reddan
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@myddrin: Certainly. There should be a couple of 100K populaires, and I and others often post informal rides in the 50-100 mile range on the Pittsburgh Randos mailing list.


myddrin
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@reddan Thanks. I got the tour de cure end of June, and then nothing till fall century-wise…so I might check out some informals over the summer.


pearmask
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It seems unlikely that I would have an appropriate bike all set up and would be at all physically ready for a 200K by July. I’m doing some bike shopping this afternoon, though, so that’s the first step. If nothing else I’d love to aim for riding some 100Ks as soon as an opportunity rolls around.


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@pearmask Opportunity right there. :)

PMTCC Century

When: Sat, May 26, 9am – 5pm

WhereGolden Triangle Bike Rental,

Description: PMTCC Memorial Weekend Century. C/2/105

Saturday, May 26th: 9 a.m. – 5 p.m. Meet in front of Golden Triangle Bike Rental on the Eliza Furnace Trail. Please arrive on time to sign in so we can leave promptly at 9. There will be several brief refueling stops and a lunch break in Midland. Most of the hills are in the first 65 miles, ride returns along the river.

Contact: Sarah Quesen

Most of people have road bikes but not all.


pearmask
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Thanks, Mikhail! Unfortunately, this is more of a long-term goal: the reason I’m bike shopping right now is that my hybrid, while awesome for its original intended purposes of commuting and lugging stuff around and short-to-medium rides, just isn’t comfortable for more than a couple of hours / 25-30 miles. I’m hoping to get a bike or at least a frame ordered this week, though, so hopefully I’ll be getting in shape for longer rides by the end of the summer. Yay :)


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Consider 65 miles as a double 33 (well, almost). :) This is a specific non-drop ride to teach people how to hydrate properly (and probably eat) with one big stop (at least). That is why it’s so long.


pearmask
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Yeah, that would be perfect for me in theory. A “double 33” doesn’t seem like it would terribly hard for me from a physical conditioning sort of perspective, but I don’t think it would be much fun on the hybrid since I know various parts of my anatomy would be very upset a few hours in. But I really will be trying to do as much stuff like this as possible once the new bike arrives :D


edmonds59
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this Mon Valley century might be a good one to target, August. I’ve heard good things about it, never done it.

http://www.monvalleycentury.org/


pearmask
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Yeah, that sounds like a nice, beginner-accessible sort of ride. Thanks, I’ll look into that.


myddrin
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A long, long while back when I was first thinking of doing a century someone (I think reddan) says “If you can do 50 miles, you can do a century.”

At the time I thought that was nuts. But now after doing a few, I can totally see it.

Most courses have breaks every 20-25 miles, so much like a 60 is “two 33’s”, a century is just “four 25’s”…

So, if 60 looks possible to you now, a century is definitely doable….

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