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steam locomotive on Sunday

An authentic 1944 steam locomotive will be running excursions up and down the track along the East Busway on Sunday. Great viewing from any of the bridges over the tracks. I'm not sure how far east it is traveling, but likely at least Homewood.


So, while you're aht & abaht on your bikes, if you hear a train whistle, yep, it's for real. It's been many years since we had a steamer in the city, and many decades since we had hundreds of them a day.


I'm told it might be in town on Saturday, too, coming in from the direction of Conway Yards (along 65, about 15 miles downstream on the Ohio River).


Video. Warning: Loud!


stuinmccandless
2012-08-08 21:09:08

Whoah. What is the reason?


steevo
2012-08-08 21:10:41

Wow, that is very cool! Any tips on when/where to be to see it?


2012-08-08 21:20:14

yeah - why is it here? Is it a passenger one? That is awesome :D


ejwme
2012-08-08 21:23:14

Well, I'm not sure this is the one Stu is talking about...but how many steam locomotives could be in the area?


(Nearly) live GPS tracking: http://fortwaynerailroad.org/locate.html


2012-08-08 21:30:20

wow. how can we obtain tickets?


vannever
2012-08-08 22:22:25

The map at Mattjackets's link shows the train making runs to Homewood, PA, near Elwood City, this weekend, not the Homewood neighborhood of Pittsburgh. Hope nobody's confusing the two.


It looks like the train's Twitter feed is active, so I guess anybody with a Twitter account could just ask them for their schedule.


steven
2012-08-09 03:30:55

I would like to see this train. I don't do twitter, so if someone has a schedule please post. THanks.


2012-08-09 03:45:42

Per the twitter feed (which you don't need an account to read, just to talk back, fwiw), they're at conway now. I didn't read in depth but it sounds like they'll be in the area a while; there's reference to leaving altoona on the 20th.


The map posted at www.765.org/locate.html doesn't seem to work on my phone, unfortunately.


epanastrophe
2012-08-09 04:03:45

Once we figure out this thing's schedule, I think a group ride to see it will be in order.


Mobile tracking link


2012-08-09 04:12:41

I would *so* love to be on a bridge over the tracks when this thing goes past. That's been on my bucket list since I was a teenager.


stuinmccandless
2012-08-09 11:36:36

I was thinking exactly the same thing Stu. I imagined watching it roll under the bike bridges on the GAP just past The Waterfront. Then I realized that the thing vents steam and nasty coal-fire exhaust from the top. Steam burns. So....maybe I'll watch from the side of a bridge!


2012-08-09 13:21:43

I need to rent Trainspotting.


edmonds59
2012-08-09 13:44:25

but the big question is if they have a bike car or roll-on service.


I'm in if there's a ride, please post. I'll carpool if needed (if it's not inside the city).


ejwme
2012-08-09 13:51:03

Tweeted this afternoon: "765 out of Conway this weekend at 9, 12, 3, 6 on Saturday, 9, and 12 Sunday. Trips start east in the mornings and alternate directions."


Train schedule in 140 characters


2012-08-10 18:43:15

Do we know for sure where it's going? One source said out along the East Busway, another said just along PA65.


stuinmccandless
2012-08-10 19:11:07

The map at http://www.765.org/locate.html suggests just along 65 to "CP Bell" in Chateau. It looks as though it'll go on the bridge to Brunot, then reverse (the drawn line terminates mid-river...)


http://fortwaynerailroad.org/2012-excursion-schedule/ says


August 11th – Conway Yard – OC Bridge (2 trips)

August 12th – Conway Bridge – Homewood Junction (2 trips)


Staff are responding to comments on that page, btw.


epanastrophe
2012-08-10 22:36:56

9:20 a.m., it's headed east!


Follow @nickelplate765 for up-to-the-minute updates.


And the Homewood they're referring to is north of Beaver Falls, where the Turnpike crosses the Beaver River.


Here, the closest it is getting to the city is the bridge over Brunot's Island. The McKees Rocks Bridge will be a great vantage point. So will Island and Beaver by the old PAT HQ, or by Alcosan. Apparently it will travel toward the city to that bridge, cross it, reverse, cross it in reverse to the other direction, and then reverse again to head back downstream. (In railroad parlance, that's called a "wye".)


stuinmccandless
2012-08-11 13:35:09

If I am to believe the website, it's in Manchester RIGHT NOW, 10 a.m.


stuinmccandless
2012-08-11 13:58:08

It appeared to make a brief stop by Allegheny Commons around 11am today. Lots of curious people stopped to take pictures. Fair warning, this thing is loud.


schmenjamin
2012-08-11 16:55:09

So it takes off again for the city at 3, here around 3:40 to 4:00.


Excellent vantage points: Rox Bridge, Island & Beaver, California & Marshall, Columbus Ave bridge by Calif Ave, Eckert at Beaver near Alcosan & the jail.


If you have a car, go out by Emsworth Lock & Dam.


stuinmccandless
2012-08-11 17:27:21

Are you able to get near the Emsworth Lock & dam? Last time I tried to get near there to show the kids it was all razor wired off due to some Home land security rationale.


edmonds59
2012-08-11 17:37:30

Close enough to see a train real easy. There's a point beyond which you cannot go, but getting to the tracks is easy. Park about 200 yards away on the level approaching street.


I was there about two hours ago and got a couple of pics for the Wheelset game.


stuinmccandless
2012-08-11 17:47:45

Any good recommendations on where to catch this VIA bike on North Side? I know the tracks it is in is elevated along the bike trail there. Not really trying to make my preggo wife adventure too much.


2012-08-11 18:42:59

I mentioned a couple of spots about four posts up. River trail to old jail, then over to Beaver & Eckert, is close to level and traffic free.


Train will climb up to the bridge to cross Beaver Ave and over the river, then will reverse over that same bridge to over on the N Side. If you are on NSide (like at Brighton & North) expect to see the back end of the train first. Once it is clear of the switch from the bridge (I'm not sure where that is), it will go back north/west/downstream/away from the city. At that point, it will be at street level at Island at Beaver.


stuinmccandless
2012-08-11 18:54:58

heard this this morning ~10am in manchester, was all WTF??

thanks stu, A+ reporting job.


wassat
2012-08-11 20:43:13

!!!

Steam locomotive at Emsworth lock & dam


stuinmccandless
2012-08-11 21:35:27

Video! With me in it, too!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56cy2jhCwo0


This was a bit earlier, up at Osborne (just toward the city from Sewickley).


I didn't realize the train was going to be on the track I was sitting right next to. I ducked out of the way when I realized I was going to get a blast of cinders from about five feet away. Which is why I'm 10 feet away in the Emsworth pic.


stuinmccandless
2012-08-11 21:55:56

Holy crap. I knew it would be a train, and trains are cool. But as a gearhead who has WD40 mixed in with his red blood cells, HOLY CRAP IS THAT BADASS. Thanks Stu.


edmonds59
2012-08-12 01:08:52

One more chance to see this Sunday morning! About the same schedule as on Saturday. It leaves Conway at 9, will reverse into the North Side about 9:45, then head back to Conway.


I'd say your best vantage point is along Beaver between Eckert (Alcosan, jail) and the elevated bridge. Try to be down there as soon after 9:30 as you can.


If you want to be above it, go to the McKees Rocks Bridge; the sidewalks are open on both sides (despite the "sidewalk closed" signs that have been sitting there since they completed the reconstruction job in 2009). Best access is river trail to the old jail, Beaver, Eckert, L McClure, L Antrim, R Fleming, L Davis, cross California, to end of street, staircase to corner of PA65 at McKees Rocks Bridge, cross 65, get on a sidewalk and look down.


stuinmccandless
2012-08-12 09:17:03

Yes. Stu, thanks you very much for the info. I will have some pics and video to share. I thought it was really neat the distinctly different sounds it made in reverse as compared to moving forward. Pretty cool.


2012-08-12 15:53:11

It will be headed for Harrisburg Monday morning. There is no other way to get there other than straight through Pittsburgh and along the East Busway.


The plan, as I know it, is to leave Conway around 8 a.m., which would put it across the Allegheny and into the city between 8:30 and 9.


stuinmccandless
2012-08-12 19:29:48

The boy and I timed it perfectly on the way to the tryabike. We drove right along side it going down 65! Then we stood on California or something and watched it go back by. Spectacular.


edmonds59
2012-08-12 21:07:13

10:38, the steamer is headed for town, will be through by 11!


stuinmccandless
2012-08-13 14:39:13

I just heard it roll through up on Troy Hill here. Wish I had a better vantage point to see the tracks from up here. Again, many thanks for the info Stu, made my Wife, kid, and myself's day checking out that awesome machinery.


2012-08-13 15:33:26

They'll be rolling back through here on Monday, 8/20, per their tweets (@NickelPlate765).


stuinmccandless
2012-08-13 16:25:22

First useful use of Twitter I've ever encountered.


rice-rocket
2012-08-13 18:11:22

From the front window of my work, I was able to see it roll through the strip this morning


rubberfactory
2012-08-13 19:41:04

I timed our tandem ride today so we were on Edgewood Avenue (which parallels the tracks and Busway) when 765 came through. Got some great photos. Thank you for posting the info and links about this.


2012-08-13 20:51:12

Top! The steamer is making its trip back west today, Monday 8/20. As of 6 a.m. it's in Harrisburg, so likely later in the day.


GPS tracking here: http://www.765.org/locate.html

Twitter feed: @NickelPlate765


stuinmccandless
2012-08-20 09:59:24

I am hoping to catch it later today. will try to remember to post updates as it approaches the City.


swalfoort
2012-08-20 12:53:42

I'm thinking about trying to catch it on the Centre Ave bridge in Shadyside. Anyone have an opinion of that location? I'm trying to find a spot close to Oakland.


2012-08-20 13:58:21

@Matt -- That looks to be about as good a location as any, although the Millvale Street Bridge, Bloomfield Bridge or the small Herron Avenue Bridge near Iron City Brewery are all also convenient to Oakland.


Bloomfield bridge is higher, and might give a more panoramic view. Millvale or Centre Avenue Bridges might give you a more "up close and personal" look.


swalfoort
2012-08-20 14:40:29

Oh, and I meant to add:


It left Harrisburg just before 6 a.m. today.


It's now just west of Altoona.


You can follow the precise location (or mostly precise location) at http://765.org/locate.html


They have a mobile app too.


swalfoort
2012-08-20 14:42:13

8:03a - Lewistown

9:32a - Tyrone

10:37 - Altoona


Limited to 40 mph. Spending night in Conway.


Another good vantage point is the pedestrian bridge in Point Breeze/Homewood. Lang? Murtland? melange396 and I picked up a tag there a month or so ago.


I don't recommend East Busway stations, as the tracks are walled off. You can hear it well enough, but not see it.


stuinmccandless
2012-08-20 14:48:35

@Stu;


Where'd you get those timepoints? I've been following the locator, but haven't seen that sort of detail on actual timepoints.


Sara


swalfoort
2012-08-20 15:25:59

@mattjackets - I would recommend the Graham St pedestrian bridge.


Slightly farther from Oakland, but one of the best places to see the train. You could see the train both coming and going and run up and down the steps to get both the top view and a side view.


Left off Ellsworth two blocks past Aiken.


mick
2012-08-20 15:39:57

Thanks, Stu. Tracker seems to put it halfway between Altoona and Johnstown at the moment, heading west at 35 mph.


Looks like a late afternoon arrival in the 'burgh.


swalfoort
2012-08-20 17:01:50

If your familiar with North Side, right where Beaver ave splits and merges from one to two ways, there is easy access to the tracks. Got some awesome up close and personal views there last time.


2012-08-20 18:13:35

@Jungle Dave - not sure where you mean in reference to Beaver Avenue.... can you pinpoint it better?


Also, currently located in Latrobe area, heading east at 31 mph.


swalfoort
2012-08-20 18:20:35

I am trying to think, the manchester Port Authority building is right there. It's literally where 65 overhead forces the road to split. Beaver ave is 2 way from alcosan to the bus garage. There Beaver ave becomes one way heading inbound, and I forget what the name of the outbound street is. One of the few traffic lights that I am aware of on the road.


2012-08-20 18:26:55

It would be the corner of Island Ave / Beaver ave. Thank you google maps! :D


2012-08-20 18:28:06

Is it possible to get onto island ave from the bike trail? From the map it looks like you can.


willie
2012-08-20 18:31:17

Here is another place to get right up close and personal on the north side. Nobody was around when it went by a week ago.


EDIT: thanks for the location advice everyone! Decisions decisions...


2012-08-20 18:55:06

@ Matt - thanks for that tip. I was thinking Osborne, then a chase to Leetsdale, but I was worried about getting stuck on the wrong side of the tracks in Obsborne.


Lower Birmingham looks great!


Train currently approaching Greensburg, heading west at 36 mph


swalfoort
2012-08-20 19:05:02

In Braddock a few minutes ago!


stuinmccandless
2012-08-20 19:44:01

Just went behind my office in East Liberty. Sweet!


roadkillen
2012-08-20 20:07:12

I got to hear it go past. Was unable to make it down unfortunately. Small fire in my basement made that moderately impossible. hahaha. Phew.


2012-08-20 20:11:57

Just got back from the Graham St. pedestrian bridge (thanks for the tip @Mick). Looked awesome, sounded awesome!


2012-08-20 20:15:42

Rolled through the Amtrak station Downtown at precisely 4:00p.


stuinmccandless
2012-08-20 20:18:48

Got a photo



roadkillen
2012-08-20 20:39:50

Got a few pics as it passed through Brighton Heights/Bellevue:




reddan
2012-08-20 20:41:18

@Roadkillen! Nice pic!!!!!


2012-08-20 21:03:07

Now imagine a couple hundred of those rolling through town every day, on top of 24/7 steel making, and you get an idea what life here was like over 65 years ago, and why you sometimes couldn't see across the street.


Also, a lot of your electricity still comes from coal-fired steam boilers, one place or another.


stuinmccandless
2012-08-21 17:19:27

Well, efficiency of coal burning power plants are much higher then steam locomotive or steam ship. In addition power plants have special filters installed in those "big pipes". But I would agree that nuclear power is much cleaner. :)


2012-08-21 17:52:13
Will it be on its way to Cleveland, by any chance? Thus making it the...
edmonds59
2013-02-04 19:48:34
Top! This same steamer will be rolling eastward through the city sometime Monday, May 13. As before, follow its Twitter stream for updates. Also:
Swalfoort wrote:You can follow the precise location (or mostly precise location) at http://765.org/locate.html They have a mobile app too.
stuinmccandless
2013-05-12 19:02:54
I'm usually dismayed to see zombie threads but this one was worth it since I missed edmonds' post the first time around. Stu, looks like your link is broken, but this one works: http://fortwaynerailroad.org/locate/locate.html Serendipity: "Steam locomotive 765 last reported at Cleveland, OH, USA about 2 hours ago."
salty
2013-05-12 19:29:23
11:15 Columbiana, OH. Will take on water in Conway, PA (up PA65 past Ambridge). Later afternoon here.
stuinmccandless
2013-05-13 10:30:19
Just went past my office. That thing is massive. Stu, thanks for the heads up!
roadkillen
2013-05-13 15:28:09
I wish I had a better camera. From 20 floors above downtown, I saw it approach on the North Side, then across the bridge through the Amtrak station. The cloud of thick black smoke it generated drifted southeast, and was still discernible as it passed Mercy Hospital three minutes later. Imagine 20 of those an hour rolling through town in 1948, plus steel plants, and it's easy to understand why we were called the "smoky city".
stuinmccandless
2013-05-13 15:36:20
A snippet of video on Facebook of the steamer chugging along the East Busway. It will be rolling back through here on Memorial Day weekend.
stuinmccandless
2013-05-13 20:41:49
Thank you for the heads up. I love that train, but had to work and couldn't see it this time around. Hope it comes back threw. Please let us know.
gg
2013-05-13 23:23:26
The steamer will be back through here on Wednesday, May 29. If you have a Twitter account, follow @NickelPlate765. If you don't, you can always refresh the page http://www.twitter.com/NickelPlate765 Specifically what they told me is that they will be overnighting in Conway Yard, so I take from that that it will be a late-day appearance through town.
stuinmccandless
2013-05-27 01:26:20
Today! It spent last night in Harrisburg. It will spend tonight in Conway. So, probably late afternoon.
stuinmccandless
2013-05-29 05:00:41
Seems like the absolute greatest place to see this for people in town would be from some floor of the Greyhound garage where it passes thru on the curve. Isn't that the usual route? You could get right up in it's face. Not quite as close as Stu likes to get, but close.
edmonds59
2013-05-29 05:25:28
Real up close and personal: * Amtrak station * Any bridge over the tracks along the East Busway * Parking lot to Whole Foods * Any bridge on the North Side (e.g., W North by Brighton) * The park on the North Side by that intersection * Near Island & Beaver in Manchester If you have access to a car: * Real nice spot along PA993 between Trafford and Irwin * Near the lock in Osborne along PA65 * Conway Yard
stuinmccandless
2013-05-29 12:48:55
3:45 nearing Johnstown. 3:54 leaving Johnstown
stuinmccandless
2013-05-29 14:51:48
I watched it from the Lock and Dam in Emsworth last time, and it was a fabulous location. Ohio River Boulevard about 6 miles from town, right at stoplight onto Brighton, immediate left under the Ohio River Bridge, then two blocks to large parking lot at the Lock and Dam. I also caught it at the Columbus Street Bridge in the North Side (near the Post Office on California Avenue). A good location (elevated above the tracks) but friends reported that the "cut" through West Park (by Gus and Yaya's) was better.
swalfoort
2013-05-29 15:08:36
Another good spot is the end of Farragut Ave, off Brighton Rd by the Giant Eagle. (Note that the road surface is, uh, less than well-maintained.) These photos were taken there last year.
reddan
2013-05-29 15:44:58
I'm going to head out Liberty, then cut up by the tracks when I get to 21st Street, and follow Sassafras Way to Herron. If I get there before the train does, I plan to be up on Gold Way. 4:50 it was in Derry 4:55 Latrobe
stuinmccandless
2013-05-29 15:54:11