The New Car-Free Calulator – Discuss

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Lou M.
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Diggin’ it.


Mick
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I don’t know. Seemsa to me the underlying assumption of that is that cars are the default form of transportation.

When I ride a bike, it’s “car free”, but before a car, my priorities are walking and busing.


StuInMcCandless
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Bummer that I cannot even see my old data. I go to the old URL and get redirected to the new one.


Erica
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I was thinking about this, and it would be cool if your account could keep track of your frequent commutes.

Example: I type in my home address, and my work address, and maybe it uses google maps to calculate the miles there. Then, on a day like today, I could log in and click “work” and maybe “round-trip.”

I don’t even know if that’s possible, but it would be cool!


rsprake
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Doesn’t it do that?


Erica
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I don’t think it did last time I used it.

Now that I’ve logged in again, I feel really silly.


StuInMcCandless
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The new one has only been in place a week or less. The old one didn’t keep track of your individual routes, which is why I also used MapMyRide.com, which handles this nicely. All the old one did was allow you to plug in a number for a day, and it was up to you to keep track of that during the day.

It would be great if this was a one-stop shop. Maybe the new one does this; I just haven’t investigated.


Marko82
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I just signed up. The interface is way better than the old one. I keep track of actual miles, but it looks like you can set up multiple often used distances/routes if you prefer that method.

Edit: Should we be joining a team? I see Bike Pittsburgh as an employer, or should that be for all of us?


mpm
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It would be nice to see the data be open, or provide for import from other services. Some friends of mine use strava, and it’s cumbersome to record miles twice.

http://www.mostlybaked.com/busting-the-silos-of-personal-fitness-data

Google makes a point of always providing data portability, one of the many reasons I generally choose their services over the alternatives (facebook).

http://www.dataliberation.org/


Lou F.
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Hey everyone Dan Yablonsky and I will managing the Bike Commuter Challenge for Bike Pittsburgh.

Mick you’ll be happy to know that the local “calculator” is now known as the Bike Pittsburgh Bike Commuter Challenge.

Anyone can still visit the Car Free Calculator http://bike-pgh.org/widget/. If you want to know the number of entries and miles you submitted for it send an email to cff@bike-pgh.org.

There still isn’t a Team Bike Pittsburgh that name is still up for grabs. For now Bike Pittsburgh is only registered as a workplace. They’re two different categories.

Since we’re still getting use to the new interface too we’ll be looking to the collective smarts of the message board to learn about your experience and suggestions for improving it (that we’ll pass on to the team who develop it).


dmtroyer
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I like the new one. One small observation, the date it defaults to doesn’t seem to be based on the user’s location… but UTC or something. I notice this at the end of the day when I go to log my miles it often defaults to tomorrow.


StuInMcCandless
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The old one did that, too.


Lou M.
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I really love this calculator. It’s fun to see where you are in the standings, etc. Using it with my Android phone and track every ride, you almost have to do nothing. Should be fun to see what happens come May.


dmtroyer
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Lou & Dan,

Do you want us to join a team? That process is not intuitive.


edmonds59
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^+1


Lou M.
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I don’t have a team set up. Maybe we could do a messageboard team?


scott
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You don’t have to join a team. By putting in a Pittsburgh zip code you are already adding to Pittsburgh’s miles. However, you can easily form a team with buddies, people from your neighborhood, people from the message board, or from work. It’s up to you.


dmtroyer
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Thanks for the clarification! I was paranoid my miles would not count towards Pittsburgh’s miles without joining a team.

And I second the idea of a message board team.


StuInMcCandless
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btw, while the /widget link does take you to the login page for the old one, logging in takes you right back out. So, for example, I can’t see when I last logged miles, or copy previous miles out so as to transfer them to the new one. :-(


Pseudacris
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Anyone want to join me to form a Park Place neighborhood team?


Lou F.
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Stu a very respectable

100 entries 1253.94 miles

I just logged into the old site without a problem too. If anyone else wants to know their stats from the old site please send an email to carfreefridayspgh@gmail.com (new email)

We still have seven spots on the Car Free Fridays team. Feel free to join.


stefb
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so for those who got their old numbers, are you adding these to the new calculator? or just starting fresh? the leaders seem to have a ton of miles.


StuInMcCandless
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The numbers quoted above show my entries from about May 1, 2011, to when the new one kicked in. I’m happy to add my numbers to the general Pittsburgh total, but I’d really like to know my 1/1/2012-to-date total on the old calculator so I know what my grand total is for the year.

Sorry to sound cranky, it’s been a long day.


Marko82
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I started with icicle-bicycle.


rachel_ding
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I love it! The interface is great and I’ve also started logging other workouts – mostly yoga, dancing or whenever I walk somewhere.

Just so folks don’t make the same mistake as me: I was mistakenly shorting myself “Cycling, Transport” miles. You know how for commuting miles you set your work commute to a certain number of miles and then it automatically totals two trips? I assumed the “Cycling, transport” log worked like that too so I was actually only logging half the miles I did during one trip (thinking that having “2 trips” selected would automatically double my miles.) It’s a little misleading because it gives you the option of quantifying your trips but then asks for total miles anyway.

Make sure you log the TOTAL miles, not just the miles for a one-way trip!


dmtroyer
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@stef there is some way to look at the leaders miles calendar. I don’t remember how… like many features on the endomodo site. but I think many of them have backlogged a ton of miles.


Erica
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My measly 3 mile commute plus my reclusive tendencies have me at a whopping 60 miles for the past 3 weeks. But 60 miles is better than 0 miles!


Anonymous #

I’m really curious how the leader board will shake out once May 1 rolls around. My understanding is that miles logged before that won’t count in the rankings (or the point system).


Erica
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I will say that I like the pictures on the calendar – it makes me feel like I’m out a lot, even if they aren’t long rides:

PS: the code on the captcha for when I uploaded the image was “flat tire.” hopefully not an omen.


Pseudacris
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I’m in an area with no t-mobile service for a few weeks (that’s my cell phone carrier). However, the GPS seems to work fine – my maps get saved onto my android, then when I’m back near wireless internet they get uploaded. I’m still trying to figure out how avoid having a short break split off onto a new trip.


Lou M.
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The start button becomes a pause button once you begin your workout. Worked for me the other day perfectly.


stefb
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so umm anyone wanna join a team with me? i just logged my recreational miles since late february, and i think it bumped me up locally. attn redden and any other randos who also commute to work.


StuInMcCandless
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I’m unaffiliated at the moment. Since the thing started I’ve racked up “397 points”, which is a rather meaningless statistic IMHO. I would rather see a nice chart by week or month showing miles traveled, maybe with an option for graph form to show trends.

I am not and never will be a high-mileage rider. That’s not what I’m about. I don’t ride for the sake of riding. I am simply trying to live in the ‘burbs without acquiring a second car. I’m about making biking possible, even a desirable option, along with transit.

So if I can hit 50 miles a week, I’m doing well. That’s usually two trips in a week (10 miles each way), one trip out, and a pile of little half trips to/from West View and so forth. I still have held to my goal of riding at least one purposeful ride a week since January 1.

Whatever group would have me, given those stats & philosophy, I’d be happy to join.


stefb
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I will be on a team with you, stu. I have a feeling that after next week, my milage will drop a bit. I am most concerned about the positive impact on the environment I am making by commuting by bike.


Dan1981
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I’m looking for a team…anyone interested in joining forces?

My goal will be 1500 points. I just mapped it out, my commute to work is 6.65 miles, home is 2.7 miles (with help from bus or trolley), or the occasional 8.0 miles all the way home (more bike-friendly route home via McCardle). So that is an average of roughly 3 bike commutes per week over the 4 months, which is tough but I think I can do it!

Send me a PM if interested in joining forces!


salty
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So is there any point in entering miles now or does it all get reset on May 1? I did a few days when it first started but I don’t know if I should backfill or just wait until May 1.


Anonymous #

Stu, the Endomondo site lets you view those graphs of your miles. Go to nationalbikechallenge.org, and click on the Endomondo logo in the upper right, that’ll bring you to their homepage. If you click on the workouts tab up top, then go over to statistics, you’ll be in data heaven. Me know if you’re looking for something more than that. I’m keeping a running list of improvements to give the developers for next year and I’d appreciate the feedback.


StuInMcCandless
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Thanks for the tip! I knew that was in there somewhere, but didn’t know how to get to it.


scott
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we only need fewer than 60 Pittsburgh-based riders to hit our goal of signing up 500 people by May 1. Please help talk up the challenge on fb/twitter and recruit your friends. Thanks!

http://www.nationalbikechallenge.com


HiddenVariable
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so, my commute distance changed, and i changed it in the commuting settings, and it shows up when i go to log miles, the new commute distance is the option presented. however, when i click “log”, what actually gets logged is my old commute distance. anyone else have this problem, and figure out a way around it? it is fairly annoying.

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