2018 Riding Conditions Report

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Eric
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Ice between stadiums (ie around water steps)on NST is very, very thin and clear. Ie, “black ice.”. Ride slowly through area.


katzenmiau
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North Shore Trail largely free of ice from Millvale park to Peggy’s Harbor. Flyover bridge between 31st and 40th is thawing but still very icy at entrances and slushy in the middle. Snow is melting across the trail, so use caution after the sun goes down. Some icy spots near the boat harbors along the Ohio.  Some deep potholes around; noticed near Heinz field and at the casino, right where it meets the trail on the north end. Landscaping crew between science center and casino, debris and trucks scattered around.


zzwergel
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In the weather forecast, I see rain tonight and tomorrow. On Saturday there is snow and a high of 21 F., Sunday Partly cloudy and high of 18F. Wind 5MPH. Does anyone think the conditions on Sunday should be ok for tag chasing?


jonawebb
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I am a year-round tag chaser.


Eric
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Depends on how much ice we get Friday into Saturday and how fast municipalities clear it.


zzwergel
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From my checking of the weather, it looks like it changed for the worse. I do not think anyone will be chasing it for the next week because of rain Friday, Below freezing temperatures Saturday and Sunday, snow Monday and Tuesday, and sub-freezing temperatures/high wind speed Wednesday and Thursday.


Eric
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North shore trail was clear today but will certainly turn into a shithole by 7 pm tonight when the snow/ice starts.

 

(See what I did there?)


zzwergel
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Sunday now looks ok.


zzwergel
Member
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Is it safe to bike in 19°F with 12MPH winds? That’s what’s forecasted for tomorrow.


katzenmiau
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I would ride in those conditions as long as roads are not icy.

As of around 630pm, roads were soaked. Any pothole is hidden by water. Debris getting pushed around everywhere. As it continues to chill, it will get icy and shitty. Use caution if you’re out. Recommend alternate transportation until it snows and they have a chance to get to roads.


zzwergel
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@katz,

What do you mean by alternate transportation? Also, what time does plowing and salting usually get done by?


Eric
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It is done whenever it is done. There’s no set time.


zzwergel
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@ed,

Does he mean buses and the T by “alternate transportation”?


katzenmiau
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I mean car, personal or taxi/uber/lyft, walking or buses. Ice and gusting wind are the worst situations for winter rides, but it’s also user’s choice. Depends on what you’re willing to deal with and how safe you feel on the roads. The roads get done when they get the chance to do them. Main roads will be first. 311 has a plow tracker you can check. It shows how frequently a road has had the truck to down it.


Eric
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It looks like most of the trails along the rivers in the city of Pittsburgh are we there flooded or close to flooded. Post-Gazette reported that River Avenue is closed. I would stay away both today and tomorrow until we can get a better idea of what is flooded and what isn’t. It seems that a bunch of people got stuck on the Parkway East because the river was Rising very rapidly


zzwergel
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@ed, Is the Saw Mill Run Valley flooded?


Eric
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Looks like North shore trail around stadiums is only 0.2 feet away from flood stage.

 

Also, will go from crazy cold to super warm Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.  That means that all this snow and ice (more than last week) will melt quickly meaning more floods.


Eric
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here’s the gauge for pittsburgh.  I love this site.

 

https://water.weather.gov/ahps2/hydrograph.php?wfo=pbz&gage=pttp1


Eric
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Went for a walk today.  North shore trail. 40th to 31st. River front drive is paved but not saltsd. So hard packed snow. Looks ok for bike with knobbies.

Flyover bridge to 31st bridge is all fluffy snow plus foot and bike tracks.

You can see where the river flooded some of the lower elevations off the trail. Huge ice sheets are left over there.

 

I stopped at 31st but looks untouched by city of pgh. River Ave looks clear.


jonawebb
Participant
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I rode around some. The side streets are still pretty bad and in a few places I didn’t feel comfortable even with snow tires. Main roads are pretty clear and melting where there’s sun.


zzwergel
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43rd St. below Foster St. has some slush and wet ice. Use caution in area (Especially near RR Tracks).


chrishent
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To my own surprise, the Fort Duquesne walkway was plowed yesterday, though it’s icy in some spots. I wonder if the Steelers game had anything to do with it getting plowed quickly…


jonawebb
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Pocusset Trail, Eliza Furnace, and the Hot Metal Bridge have all been plowed. Thanks to brosha.tkacheva@pittsburghpa.gov for getting 311 the equipment needed to plow the bridge.
Hot Metal still has some problematic areas, though. Both ramps need work and the north end of the bridge has some places where the plows didn’t reach, I guess.
And all these trails are still icy in patches, and have a thin layer of ice/snow that means snow tires are still a great idea.
And the city roads are still in bad shape, in spots. Pocusset Street between the trail and Hobart is really thick with snow and packed snow that has turned to ice.


zzwergel
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@jonawebb,

Where does Pocusset St. intersect Hobart St.?

Has the Junction Hollow Trail been plowed?

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Eric
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River Ave and nst from Millvale to downtown one big Trump shithole®. All ice. Can see where it flooded. Pgh hasn’t touched the street at all. Scary even on foot.


jonawebb
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@zz, sorry, I should have said Philips. It’s thick snow from there to the trail. https://goo.gl/maps/jCMXzEKtz142
I don’t know if the Junction Hollow Trail has been plowed, I don’t ride that way.


zzwergel
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Tomorrow, I would like to try some other ways of avoiding Library Rd. in Castle Shannon and Bethel Park. How are Bethel Park and Castle Shannon Boroughs with keeping up with the plow trucks? Streets in Aspinwall are still a mess.


StuInMcCandless
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Frankly, I’d do it on foot. Plus, take note, it’s going to be single-digit temperatures overnight, so even if they do plow and salt, it isn’t going to make much difference. I plan on staying off the bike until some of this stuff goes away.

Tomorrow/Tuesday might be a good day to take note of who nearby has cleared sidewalks properly and who has not. All the snow should be done by noon Tuesday. But anything not cleared by nightfall Tuesday will likely be a skating rink by Thursday morning at the latest.

I wouldn’t worry about the roads too much. All the elected officials will hear plenty about that from drivers. If I had nothing else to do, I would document the situation that on-foot residents have to deal with if they want to walk to a bus or a store on the main street. Sure, bikes can use sidewalks in residential areas, but the more arguable point would be whether someone in a wheelchair can get to the main street.

My two cents, anyway.


zzwergel
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Do you mean any street in Castle Shannon, Bethel Park, and South Park Twp. should be ok to bike on tomorrow? Should I bring A shovel with me just in case?


zzwergel
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Why aren’t sidewalks that are not on anyone’s property kept clear of debris, snow, and ice. A small plow should be run on walkways, bike trails, etc at least enough to keep these amenities usable. If they are public property or city owned, they should be keeping them clear of snow, ice, knotweed, broken glass, etc since it is obvious that these facilities are being used. What should I do if I crash and get seriously injured on the Highland Park Bridge sidewalk due to ice or a flat tire due to broken glass PennDOT’s negligence in keeping these facilities free of garbage? Should I file a lawsuit against PennDOT and make them pay a fine for every week that goes by with snow, ice, and/or broken glass on the sidewalks?


Benzo
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Friendship lanes about 1/2 clear, rode in the main lane. S. Millvale lanes not cleared nearly at all.

Bayard inbound to Oakland was closed between Devonshire St and N Neville St. Looks like digging @ neville / bayard intersection, not sure how easy it was to get around.

I took Devonshire to Ellsworth to Craig and found the Forbes inbound bike lanes to be full of deep chunky snow. Not fun, kind of slippy.


erok
Keymaster
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here’s a picture of River Ave and the trail from Sunday.

 


Eric
Member
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I ran through that crap on river Avenue yesterday.  Not one of my best life decisions.


zzwergel
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Yikes! River Ave. became a frozen $#!t#0%e!

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Eric
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This article could have been printed in Pgh any year since 1787. Or whenever the city was founded.

http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2018/01/16/peduto-responds-snow-removal-criticism/amp/


katzenmiau
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S Millvale lanes on the bridge are still flush with snow. There is utility work on the Baum side of the bridge, so use caution for big machinery during the day and one lanes possible. Liberty Ave lanes are mostly unusable. Rode in motorist lane. Be wary of deep potholes. The plows that did make it out this weekend are effectively chewing up the roads. Penn Ave was fine from 32nd to 6th. I did not use the bike lanes. There were tire tracks and some cyclist tracks. Clemente Bridge lanes looked snowy. I also did not ride those. Roads around the stadiums were wet but fine. Made the poor decision to ride around the casino to the trail. Some sidewalks at casino are plowed but not salted, some haven’t been redone since new snow. Trail looked untouched. I chose sidewalks (not great either) to my destination in Chateau. Will take Manchester and Mexican War Streets in/out of North Side until this melts.


Eric
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I guess the city is leaving river Ave and nst a poop show until it all melts and refloods again and then recedes?

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zzwergel
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Is biking on roads in 15 MPH wind and 31° F temperature safe and easy? I haven’t been able to bike much at all for the last week because of the snow we’ve been getting and I am getting cabin fever. I did a little yesterday, but it was miserable.

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paulheckbert
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Panther Hollow Rd bike lane was plowed yesterday, near Phipps Conservatory, when I took this photo:

IMG_3850

 


jonawebb
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@zz I think you’ll be OK as long as you’re cautious around snow and ice. I think the streets are in pretty good shape right now, at least the main streets. If you encounter snow or ice, just get off and walk or paddle with one foot.
I’m assuming you don’t have snow tires. You can be at bit more aggressive with them. I’m always most afraid and cautious at the beginning of winter, and after a while I get used to it and feel more comfortable.
The most important thing I’ve learned is to never use my front brake when road conditions are iffy. If you brake with the front brake on ice your wheels will go out sideways from under you right away. It’s amazing how fast it happens. You won’t necessarily be injured that badly, maybe bruised or tear some clothing, but you won’t like it.
But if you brake with your rear wheel and you’re on ice, at most you’ll fishtail and you can recover. It’s a bit scary but not nearly so bad.

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