2018 Riding Conditions Report

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Eric
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Ditto with using your front brake on wet wooden canal bridges on the C and O.  At least I heard about someone wiping out doing that. It wasn’t me.  you don’t know them.  They live in Canada.


zzwergel
Member
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@jonawebb,

Western Ave. in Aspinwall is completely clean. 2nd St. had some slippery places between Western Ave. and Center Ave. I would avoid alleys if at all possible.


katzenmiau
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Liberty Ave lanes are shit in both directions and particularly hazardous just after Herron at the lane shift from the strip. I rode in the lane all the way up and nearly got swiped by just about every car. Main drag in Bloomfield is a little better in some places. I 311d the lanes earlier and just put another strongly worded one in for that stretch in particular.

Main roads in North Side are in decent shape. Lots of hidden potholes everywhere. 2 craters at the end of 16th into strip in right lane.  Smallman is clear enough but plenty of potholes in the stretch near all the parking. Only rode 2 blocks of Spring Way and didn’t look like it has been plowed at all. Enough tire tracks to ride comfortably in.


chrishent
Member
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Any word on the Jail Trail, Hot Metal bridge, or the South Side trail?


Benzo
Participant
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Liberty ave lanes between s.millvale and bloomfield bridge were a bit messy, but usable last night.

Bayard/Bigelow/Ohara lanes were terrible and unridable yesterday evening. They were clear for a couple stretches where they bumped out around parked cars, but nowhere else.

This morning, Forbes ave bike lanes inbound to Oakland were usable between Bellefield and Bigelow, but horrible betweenCraig and Bellefield.


Eric
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Any reports on the status of the north shore trail, river ave, 31st bridge sidewalk much appreciated tomorrow as it warms up as I’d like to go jogging there this weekend. It was a frozen hellscape when I went this past Monday.

 

Thanks


chrishent
Member
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Jail Trail going outbound: Between Grant St and Golden Triangle bikes is in good shape. Between there and the end of the 10th parking lot there’s more snow but generally passable. Beyond that, it has been plowed but not treated, leaving an irregular layer of 1″ or more of snow; difficult to ride on skinny tires, so it will test your handling skills if you do so. Knobbies should be fine.

The access ramps from the jail trail to the Hot Metal bridge are untouched; pretty much anyone not on a fat bike will have to dismount and walk up to the bridge. The bridge itself has a hard-packed layer of snow, which actually makes it rideable. The ramps down are in a similar state.

I originally planned to go back on the South Side trail but figured it was probably in the same state as the jail trail, so I went back to downtown on Carson. It has a lot of potholes on the right tire track, so taking the lane is advisable. The sidewalks on the Smithfield St bridge looked fine.

This should all be gone by weekend’s end.


Benzo
Participant
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Yesterday evening, forbes ave bike lane between Pitt & CMU is unridable.

This morning, Bayard/Bigelow/Ohara street bike lanes inbound are mostly unridable almost the entire length.


jonawebb
Participant
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Eliza Furnace Trail has been plowed at least to the Hot Metal Bridge. The bridge is not plowed but the snow is packed down and not too bumpy, and rideable with snow tires. I couldn’t ride up the northern ramp, though.
Pocussett Trail is plowed and clear.


Eric
Member
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NST- Millvale to 31st untouched.

31st to 9th St bridge- plowed. Hard packed snow. River Ave completely clean.

 

9th St bridge until ???? – frozen hellscape/Trump shithole. Can barley get through on foot. Bike impossible.


erok
Keymaster
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any word on the Penn Ave Bike lanes, today, Friday?


chrishent
Member
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Penn Ave bike lane last night: patches of snow and ice between Stanwix and 9th St, but generally passable; Mostly good between 9th and 10th. I don’t know of anything beyond that.


lenticular truss
Member
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Jail trail was kind of sucky this morning, around 9:30 a.m. Yes, it had been plowed from the UPMC parking lot to about the Hot Metal Bridge, and ok if a little challenging. I found the rest of the way from there downtown to be not so great — if it had been plowed, there had been additional snow after, and unfortunately the tire tracks from intrepid cyclists made things tricky at times. There was patchy ice and rutted areas. On proper mountain bike tires or certainly studs it wouldn’t have been a big deal, but on even my 700x35s it was a challenge. If only it had been salted promptly, I don’t think it would have been in such bad shape. I’m sure it will be fine by Monday, with the higher temps and rain, but I think for my afternoon commute, I’m probably going to stick to streets. I’m thinking maybe taking Center over into the East End. Does anyone else have any suggestions? I’m not really interested in taking Fifth or Forbes, I don’t think.


Eric
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I like Penn better than centre but that puts you further north.  I worry about centre in the hill being poorly plowed because it is Pittsburgh.  If they can’t plow sq hill or Shadyside properly and poorer neighborhoods get less service anyway…


A
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Your Citizen Service Request Details
Activity was posted on a service request ID#: 210855 that you filed.
Service Request Details
ID
210855
Date
1/19/2018 8:17 AM
Type
Snow/Ice removal
Comments
May eft get plowed
Activity Request Details
Date/Time
1/19/2018 9:07 AM
User
mitchec2
Comments
Given to supervisor for review and assignment.
Thank you for contacting Pittsburgh’s 3-1-1 Response Center.
Live 3-1-1 Operators


zzwergel
Member
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Penn Ave. closed between Main St. and 40th St. Had to detour via Davison St. Also closed between 11th St. and 10th St., Had to detour via Liberty Ave to Wood St. to catch 91 bus.

Penn Ave. Bike lane slush, 311 request ID:  211262

40th St. Bike lane slush and debris, 311 request ID:  211263

Fisk St. potholes, 311 request ID:  211267


Eric
Member
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Point State Park is hard packed snow to slush the clear pavement. The part around the fountain as well as the lower trail part is still covered with ice.

The Penn Avenue cycle track can go from clear to slushy. Unfortunately most of the slush is right around intersections so be careful.

The 40th Street Bridge sidewalk is still not passable.

However, roads such as Butler, 40th Street Bridge, smallman, and Penn Avenue are very passable. Just watch out for lots of potholes especially on smallman


chrishent
Member
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The river trail between Point State Park and the Convention Center is impassable. Why, you ask? It looks whoever did the cleanup for the 10th St bypass just dumped all the debris onto the trail:

Don’t expect to go through there any time soon.


katzenmiau
Member
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S Millvale bridge lanes are pretty clear, some debris remaining. Friendship lanes around the parklet were mostly clear but wet. Negley lanes from Friendship to Stanton in both directions are like half clear. Not a big fan of this reconfiguring because they can’t seem to manage it. Shouldn’t freeze tonight but recommend caution around corners and on bridges.


Eric
Member
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@chrisent. Fuggggggg…..

Can you tweet this to Peduto?


paulheckbert
Moderator
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@chrishent: Yikes!

I just retweeted to Friends of the Riverfront, who manages that trail. The responsibilities, as I understand them: FOTR keeps an eye on the trail, via volunteer trail stewards (I’m one) who do light work (pick up litter occasionally) but if a tree falls on a FOTR-managed trail in Pittsburgh, or the trail needs plowing or mowing or other heavy equipment, FOTR notifies Pittsburgh dept. of Public Works, and they (eventually) clean it up.

This might be a different situation, since this news story suggests that it was probably PennDOT that dumped the ice and mud on the trail.

http://www.post-gazette.com/news/transportation/2018/01/16/Snow-ice-morning-roads-commute-treacherous/stories/201801160067


Eric
Member
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Witt the extended closures in the Strip and now this that section of the trail is cursed


gg
Member
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Highland Park Bride sidewalk is passible.  Not great, but not too bad.  I do ride a mountain bike, but would take a road bike over it.


Eric
Member
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Nst refroze last night. Is ice rink. Avoid for now.


chrishent
Member
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The Fort Duquesne walkway is clear. The trail section along both of the stadiums remains closed off by DPW; needs lotsa cleanup. Got on the trail by the casino, but bailed shortly before reaching the marinas; too much slush and no real need to deal with it. Went up to the observatory and then back all the way to the 31st St bridge on the streets, with no issues except for the odd salt mound here and there. The trail alternated long stretches of clear and slush.


Eric
Member
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Hopefully 57-60 degrees tomorrow will take care of all the trails except for the boulder section.  That’s going to be a bear to clean once all those ice pieces melt.


paulheckbert
Moderator
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Eliza Furnace trail and Southside trail (Hot Metal to Smithfield St bridge) were 99% snow- and ice-free today. Some of the ramps at the south end of the Hot Metal Bridge had ice, but it was thin and it continues to melt.


paulheckbert
Moderator
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I checked out the Allegheny’s riverbank trails on Sunday and found that there are miles of ice chunks and slabs, some of it 5 feet deep, along the banks of the rivers near the Point. The mess was exacerbated by the dumping of ice debris excavated from the 10th St Bypass, but even before that happened, the trails were a huge mess. This will take months to melt, won’t it?

I don’t get down to the Point in mid-winter much. Does this ice-flooding happen once a year? More? Less?

10th St Bypass under 6th St Bridge: trail buried in excavated ice debris 10 feet deep (click to see uncropped picture)

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North Shore trail near PNC Park covered in ice chunks and mud

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Eric
Member
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I run and bike the trail year round. This type of flooding is very atypical. Usual flood is early spring, all water, water covers the trail.  Mud and grime to clean up after.

However, with global climate change this type of flooding may increase over the years. Wild swings between deep cold and mid 50s with rain.


Jamin
Participant
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Three Rivers Heritage Trail is good from South Side to Homestead, except for the low part near the eagle viewing spot. Challenging even to walk through.


erok
Keymaster
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Pothole blitz, Thursday Friday Saturday. Report ’em all. make your ride better and save someone’s teeth.


katzenmiau
Member
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30Th between Penn and Smallman was closed this morning. Looked like a water pipe burst.


Eric
Member
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North shore trail clear between Millvale and Alcoa.  At Alcoa is 3″ deep mud plus ice boulders. I’d stay off trail until Carnegie science center or casino.


chrishent
Member
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Apparently, there were crews this morning removing debris from the river trail along the Allegheny between the Point and the convention center:

http://triblive.com/local/allegheny/13218719-74/traffic-parking-restrictions-greet-downtown-commuters

 


Eric
Member
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A saw on a section of the trail outside of PNC park the ice boulders were moved from the trail to the grass. However this am it was only about 100 feet.  It looks like they pressure washed the area too.


lenticular truss
Member
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Last night around 11 pm, roads in the East End were an ice rink. Be careful this morning till there’s a warm up!


jonawebb
Participant
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No problem on the roads and trails (Pocussett, Eliza Furnace, Hot Metal) this morning. Everything melted overnight.


Benzo
Participant
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Bayard/bigelow bike lanes inbound to oakland looked like they had a little ice this morning in some spots, wasn’t too slippy with studded tires, but YMMV. I bet it will all melt as soon as temps go above freezing.


katzenmiau
Member
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Use caution on Moorewood between Baum and Millvale when it is icy. Wednesday night I got a concussion. I don’t remember what happened, but I believe I hit ice turning from Millvale onto Moorewood and then hit blacktop. I luckily live around the corner and am fine, but they are awful about treating the roads between Baum and Millvale. I’ve 311d it so we’ll see what happens. I know a lot of cyclists use this corridor. Some spots still look icy today.


Eric
Member
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So sorry!   That’s miserable!

 

I was riding in Oakland, eft, strip, junction hollow, n negley today at 10 and 11 am . No ice anywhere .

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