Beechwood Blvd…bike lanes

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PA Title 75, Chapter 35: SPECIAL VEHICLES AND PEDESTRIANS

Subchapter C: Rights and Duties of Pedestrians

Section 3544. Pedestrians walking along or on highway.

      (a) Mandatory use of available sidewalk.—Where a sidewalk is provided and its use is practicable, it is unlawful for any pedestrian to walk along and upon an adjacent roadway.

      (b) Absence of sidewalk.—Where a sidewalk is not available, any pedestrian walking along and upon a highway shall walk only on a shoulder as far as practicable from the edge of the roadway.

      (c) Absence of sidewalk and shoulder.—Where neither a sidewalk nor a shoulder is available, any pedestrian walking along and upon a highway shall walk as near as practicable to an outside edge of the roadway and, if on a two-way roadway, shall walk only on the left side of the roadway.

      (d) Right-of-way to vehicles.—Except as otherwise provided in this subchapter, any pedestrian upon a roadway shall yield the right-of-way to all vehicles upon the roadway.


Pierce
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This whole notion is similar to cyclists just deciding to ride on the busway

I disagree with that comparison.

Bus lanes are (more or less) closed routes. Streets are open and runners can get on and off the road whenever they want, unlike bikes on the bus lane, which are basically stuck (unless they jump a jersey barrier) for long durations of time.

Secondly, cyclists can pass runners without changing lanes. Busses cannot easily or safely pass cyclists on bus lanes.

Bus lanes are clearly labeled that they’re only for busses, roads are not (usually) labeled they’re only for vehicles. Occasionally roads say “no pedestrians” or “motorized vehicles only” Not the norm though

And in spite of laws, because frankly, I only follow the ones I agree with and wasn’t part of the decision making process in any of them, how are runners any less worthy of using the road than cyclists?

I’ve never been run off the road or sideswiped or bumped or cutoff by a runner. With cars, I’ve experienced all of the above.

How is “highway” defined by PA law? And how is practical defined? Sounds just like cyclists going however far into the left of the lane as we deem safe.


jeg
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Thanks.

I too am curious if “highway” means all roads. I could see people getting ticketed for running down, say, Forbes Avenue, but through neighborhoods, not so much.

Also, what about “Where a sidewalk is provided <i>and its use is practicable</i>”? I think gratuitous snow, leaves, ankle-breaking disrepair, etc., render its use “not practicable.” What if someone actually proved that running on the sidewalk was causing them pain or injury?

Also, for what it’s worth, I’ve had at least 3 near-misses with cars while running in Pittsburgh, and all have been during perfectly legal pedestrian crossings in crosswalks. The only time I ever had a problem with a bike as a runner was on a sidewalk! (Doesn’t prove anything, just saying.)


scott
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I’m a runner and there is a big difference on my joints between running on a sidewalk and running on asphalt. On busy streets I run on sidewalks on side streets I run in the street unless I would be inconveniencing someone or jeopardizing my safety by doing so. It’s totally legit. If it’s that big a deal then cops will start ticketing for it. Otherwise leave well enough alone.


rsprake
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It can be frustrating when a runner is coming towards me and I have to merge into impatient traffic coming from behind me, but I am tolerant. I think it’s fine.


JZ
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Yeah! Get those guys out of the road! They just get in the way because they don’t go as fast as I want.

Wait, are we talking about cyclists, runners, or geese in this thread?


Mick
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I HATE it when I get dropped by a runner.

Just sayin’


stefb
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Nothing annoys me more than a walker on the wrong side of the road! When you ride up behind them, they don’t see you. I needs to put a bell on my bike. I don’t like yelling at people, even if it is to say that I am coming. Same reason I always take the road over a bridge instead of the sidewalk.

In regards to Beechwood, I don’t ride it very much for reasons stated above- fear of being doored and all of the crap in the middle of the bike lane. When I started riding in the city on the road I was so freaked out by it.

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