big hole on the "northeast passage"

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salty
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I’ve been meaning to post about this, the “northeast passage” that you can use to cut through by Reizenstein developed a <b>gigantic</b> gaping hole – it’s at least a couple feet wide and deep. They put up some cones but if you’re riding through there, especially at night, be careful, falling in would definitely ruin your whole day. It’s on the west side of the road, which kind of sucks because there’s an old longitudinal grate on the east side.

Is calling 311 a good idea or a bad idea? I’m worried that they might decide to officially “close” the road. But, it would be nice to get it fixed. I’d be happy if they just filled the pit with gravel, but it looks like it might be part of a drainage system.


Pseudacris
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Oh, I’m glad you posted this, salty. I noticed it a couple of days ago & forgot about it. I think it would be good to report it to 311. I doubt they’ll close the road: I think the school and the military complex both use it & I see joggers & pedestrians pass through a fair amount.


salty
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Well, I’m still unclear on what the legal status of that part of it is. It’s the southernmost part – i.e. the brick road that’s completely overgrown, not the paved part. So hopefully no cars/trucks are using that part – or maybe that’s what caused the collapse?

BTW, I’m pretty sure it keeps getting bigger – I’d keep a few feet away from it at least.


Ahlir
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Went by there today. Glad there’s cones.

By the looks of it, it’s a break in a water line.

I would also assume that the cones mean that the relevant parties (ie, PWSA) are already on the case.


rsprake
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It is getting bigger. I moved the cones to reflect the bigger hole the other day.


salty
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alnilam
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Where is this?


salty
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http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&hq=&t=h&ll=40.45535,-79.917925&spn=0.000703,0.00142&z=20

see the brick road that fades into grass? it looks like it was once a street connecting festival and putnam, it’s still useable for biking or walking and a nice shortcut from shadyside to e.lib.


Pseudacris
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HEADS UP:

The great northeast passage is currently the great northeast PUDDLE.

If you ride through there in the dark, be advised to bring a strong headlight that might show the potholes through the 1-3″ of standing water. The already narrow and muddy banks of the puddle may not be an option if the rain continues…


cburch
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same for the back passage from fed ex to 20th street in the strip. its all fine except for the 75 feet of railroad access road. that’s a water filled death trap right now. on the plus side, my bike handling skills are surprisingly good even while holding a bag of chicken latina quesadillas in one hand.


greenbike
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on the plus side, my bike handling skills are surprisingly good even while holding a bag of chicken latina quesadillas in one hand.

That sounds like a good idea for a new kind of bike competition.


Steven
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There’s another way through the great northeast passage. Going east to west, head down the brick road and turn right (northwest) about where the brick ends, into the parking lot. Pass the big school building on your right, and just as it ends, you’ll see a fence on your left with a gate in it. The gate leads to the corner of Marchand and Rennig Streets.

I don’t know what hours the gate is unlocked, as I’ve only been through once (during the day). But it might be worth checking out if it cuts out the dicier portion of the passage.


ejwme
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Steven – when that school was a school (what is it now?), that gate was permanently locked. We used to have to climb it to avoid the PPS cops… I mean they used to climb it. The bad children, not me. I was in class, learning.


ejwme
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oh – a quick email or phone call to the owner or manager of Bakery Square pointing out that the safest way for the people with money in shadyside to get to his/her establishment to spend it is treacherous. Might get things moving as well as 311.


Lyle
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Or perhaps their tenants’ employees might be more effective.


salty
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ok, i sent a 311 and will encourage my co-workers to do the same…


gimpPAC
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whoa, I never knew about this road-ish passage… I will have to investigate…


Pseudacris
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News Flash: it may get fixed ~ February.

:::::::::::::

This is to inform you that the City of Pittsburgh has completed and closed your Service Request.

The Service Request Identification-Number is: 214197

Summary of action taken:

Per DPW Transportation/Engineering:

We will conduct a field investigation. Please allow 6-8 weeks for a determination.

Summary of Service-Request:

At the end of Putnam St, just before it dead ends into Social Way, it is very dark and not well lit. Please consider installing a street lgiht.

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Last night I was able to pass from the end of Marchand, through an opening in the brick wall into the drop-off zone on the NW side of the school building.

When you pass though the wall, you’re on a sidewalk, but there’s a curb cut a few yards to the right.

Watch out for cars and for bored kids just getting out of detention. This parking lot drops you right onto the new bike path that runs parallel with Penn.


Steven
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Looks like the Reizenstein building is a working school at the moment. It’s called Pittsburgh Obama 6-12, with an International Baccalaureate program.

Next fall, Pittsburgh Peabody is set to close, and Pittsburgh Obama might then move into its old space. I don’t know what they’ll do with the Reizenstein building after that.


ejwme
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Reizenstein is an awesome building, but horrid for a school. It was designed in the 70s when “open class rooms” were en vogue. So almost all the classroom walls are temporary folding walls, thin and plastic (installed after a semester of hell, or so I heard). In the “cafetorium” there are these huge ramps up to the second floor, I think the brick is green. Huge indoor pool. Gym is 3 stories high. Phenomenal building. Could be turned into the most awesome community building ever.

I hope they get to that before February, it sounds more like rounding tierra del fuego than cutting through panama canal.


edmonds59
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“I don’t know what they’ll do with the Reizenstein building after that.”

Somebody call Ray’s in Cleve, we need one here.


cburch
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he wont do it. too close. plus he isnt in charge of that anymore. trek picks the locations, he just designs what goes in them.

someone here needs to step up and do it.


ejwme
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cburch, edmonds, link or explination for those of us who are oblivious but curious?


edmonds59
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Ray’s indoor mtn bike, Cleveland


ejwme
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in the infamous words of keanu reeves:

*whoah*


cburch
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its even better now.


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The sinkhole near the old Reizenstein building is still there. I’m a reporter in town working on a short audio story about this connector near Putnam Street (given the nickname ‘the great northeast passage’?) Any and all insight on this little strip of land would be helpful!


rsprake
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What would you like to know? After falling, Paul Heckbert and I contacted the city using their 311 line to have them clean up the road by filling in the pot holes and sweep up the gravel. The city said it’s not their responsibility so I contacted Councilman William Peduto’s office and through some investigation they found out that it was in fact their responsibility. I am not sure who filled the pot holes but they have been filled but the gravel remains.

The sink hole still exists.

I don’t think the city cares because the school is now closed and that property is being redeveloped very soon. The developer plans on constructing a path or bike lane which will finally make this connection real and not so much of a hack.


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Did this all take place last year?


rsprake
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The maintenance took place spring / early summer.


ejwme
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developer… what are they developing it into? An awesome indoor park like pictured above? Or Bakery Square 2?


Tabby
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Bakery Square 2.0

from what I hear it’s primarily going to be housing. what’s up for debate now is whether to create a gated community such that you would have a long walk or have to drive if you wanted to cross the street to get to the stores on the other side OR to create an accessible grid. I understand the shadyside community group is strongly leaning towards the gated community design vs. integrated street network.


Pseudacris
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Gated community would really stink here for cyclists.

It’s an important link between Reynolds/Beechview and points north/west. I really don’t want to be dumped onto Penn or Fifth.


rsprake
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From what I understand the developer wants an open grid plan with no through motorized through traffic to Shadyside. They want to keep the bike and pedestrian connection open as it is now.


Pseudacris
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Is Walnut Capital the developer?


rsprake
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Bakery Square 2.0.

Bakery Square 2.0 will exceed current best practices in architecture, landscape architecture and urban design, which emphasize green and sustainable standards of design and construction. Within 1500’ of East Liberty’s bus station, and numerous bus routes on Penn Avenue, it is a transit-oriented development that will be designed to the standards of LEED for Neighborhood Development. A traditional grid of streets and blocks will extend pathways for cars, pedestrians, and cyclists, anchoring Bakery Square to the surrounding network of urban neighborhoods.


Tabby
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yeah, I hope it will be developed with really good connectivity. I heard that there were community meetings with a lot of “we don’t want them parking on our streets over here” kind of stuff and a lot of support for it being like that development with the gate around it that’s across from the Village at EastSide Plaza.


rsprake
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I don’t know what a gate does other than keep people out. They are going after LEED certification and while I don’t know for sure, putting up a gate around your neighborhood is probably not going to get you that certification.


Pseudacris
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I believe LEED does indicate bike racks!


edmonds59
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Uggh, the words “gated community” make me want to find a black market rocket launcher. Few other things generate that response.

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