Big trouble in little shadyside

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spakbros
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Please tell me the guy who almost caused a traffic pileup on Ellsworth to tell me I needed to learn how to ride on the road posts or lurks on this board.

I would really like to holla at ya pal


spakbros
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the Ellsworth yuppie death highway needs some sharrows badly


alnilam
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Ellesworth is the best way to or from Shadyside, IMO.

Sharrows are NEVER a bad idea, but I haven’t had a huge amount of trouble there.


spakbros
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that’s the whole problem, around rush hour it becomes much faster to get to Trader Joes in your massive suv with tv’s in it than Penn or Center


erok
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if the parking was organized better, ie not a mish mash of switching sides, i think it could be waaaaaaay safer.

all those people have huge driveways too.


erok
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nice thread title by the way


alnilam
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This is what Lo Pan does to crappy Ellesworth drivers.


greenbike
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Ellsworth needs repaved on the portion from Negley to Shady Ave.

Just my two cents.


mark
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one of my good friends got banged up there a while ago on a rainy rushhour evening… it does get crazy sometimes


rsprake
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Ellsworth needs some traffic calming measures. People do speed around you there, I assume because they are trying to use it as a shortcut.


Dave
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…this is what impatient driver’s look like on Ellsworth when waiting for cyclists:


erok
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haha dave.


spakbros
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could just start making helmets look like this


Mick
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Spak, was that a driver? Or a cyclist?

If it is a driver, the chances of him lurking here are roughly the same as Sarah Palin voting for Nader.

Dave, I know I’ve seen that guy on Ellsworth. Really. Would I say something that wasn’t true?

Mick


dmtroyer
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I’ve been known to yell at cyclists to get off the sidewalk a time or two, but I haven’t been on ellsworth in a couple of weeks :-)


J Z
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James Hong is awesome.


brian j
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What boggles the mind about Ellsworth is that it only seems to be an evening thing. I never see much traffic on it during the morning rush, but it can often be backed up from Negley to Aiken at 5:30.


StuInMcCandless
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Isn’t the speed limit on Ellsworth 25mph? How fast are these cars going, or wanting to go? Is the solution to just place a few city cops on it at evening rush to hand out some speeding tix? Or am I not understanding something here?


dmtroyer
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@stu I didn’t know city cops wrote speeding tix.


shutup and peddle
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Speeding tickets aren’t going to bother the people who have the disposable income to be able to afford to drive a big v8 anyway. They may annoy the driver in question, but because that driver can easily pay a small speeding fine, they will continue to drive as they please.


spakbros
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@mick

The guy made a big point of yelling, “look at my sticker on my car! I have been riding a bike for 20 years”.

Couldn’t read it but I assume it was some sort of cycling sticker. When I asked him specifically what I did wrong, he had nothing to say. When I started to walk over, he shut the window and drove away.

The only reason it even bothered me was that I was trying to teach my gf how to take the lane after she was run off the road by a bus and a car in the same night on that same stretch.


sloaps
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I’d have to agree with the peddler’s comment. A general lack of respect to the privilege of operating a motor vehicle in our free society by speeding, texting or aggressive driving will not be tempered by a ticket or a fine. You have to take the privilege away from them.

@spak: you should carry some slices around with you in these situations. you’ll be more disarming and easily approachable.


dmtroyer
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@spak… oh so you got yelled at to ride ON the sidewalk???


erok
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i hope it wasn’t a bikepgh sticker :(


spakbros
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He just told me that I needed to learn how to ride on the street safely. Which I do.

I think the guy was just trying to act tough which he stopped promptly the second I started over towards the car.


ieverhart
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The speed limit is indeed 25 mph on (I believe) the entire length of Ellsworth Avenue, except by Winchester-Thurston and Liberty Schools where during school hours it would be even lower. Going eastbound by Liberty (with a “grade assist”), I often can get into the over-20 range, and going at the “prevailing speed,” I take the full lane, and love it.

Maybe they should be clearer: the speed limit is an UPPER limit.

Does the city not do speed cameras (if we see you at two points X yards apart within Y seconds, you must have been speeding)? This could probably solve the city’s budget problems if well-placed.(Bigelow Boulevard, I’m looking in your direction.)


StuInMcCandless
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I look at tickets as an educational tool. I look at the highly increased insurance costs when your carrier finds out you got a ticket as extortion. But all the more reason to be on a bike.


ieverhart
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Right around noon, I was going eastbound on Ellsworth approaching Morewood. I was cruising at like 17 mph, but a guy in a red Mustang-esque car just had to get to that red light 2 seconds earlier, so he pulled into the oncoming lane and raced ahead, when the light turned green and a long line of cars started coming the other direction.

At least he didn’t try to run me off the road.


greenbike
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Speed limit is 25mph, and but I think most people go about 35mph on the section between Morewood and Negley, partly b/c of the lack of stop signs. After that, the poor road surface and 4-way stops slow people down (or at least it slows me down when I’m in my car).

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