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dani
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all of this technical talk is all well and good, but i should point out that if you’re going to own a space pony, you’re going to have to get sparkly streamers. then when you’re galloping tear-jerker fast down hills, they’ll be flapping majestically in the breeze.

it’s important.


anon123
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anon123
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Additional inspiration:


anon123
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dmtroyer
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edmonds59
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Space pony probably uses infinite improbability drive. Probably.


anon123
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@rubberfactory is the green frame you were talking about like this one?: http://www.flickr.com/photos/35706596@N05/6217251921/

If so, I see why you dream about it. That color is awesome.


stefb
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Speaking of new bikes, I want an all city big block now. I have issues. I like new stuff.


Erica
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pearmask: yes.


anon123
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Has anybody ever ridden an All-City bike to know whether their sizing is weird? I was 95% sure I would need a 49cm space pony, but then I emailed them to double-check the standover heights, and they seem surprisingly huge to the point where I’m not sure I could stand over the 49cm. My nightmare is that I will try the 49cm when Thick gets one in a few weeks, realize I need the 46cm, and then find out that the 46cm is sold out everywhere and that would be soooo sadddddd


stefb
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I was looking at their big block to replace my SE Lager. They had a 49 at thick that was lacking pedals, so I did a quick stand over and it was hitting me in the girl parts. With the all-city big block, the bottom bracket is higher cause of some velodrome in Minneapolis that is super steep.. Raising the bottom bracket and this the whole bike height decreased the chance of pedal strike when cornering. I think I got that right.. That is basically what Adam (sales guy) said. I don’t know if that could be the case for the space horse.. If they did something similar for some intended use???


anon123
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Thanks, stefb. Yeah, looks like the 49cm Big Block has a tiny BB drop (58mm) and thus a really high BB (looks super high even looking at the bike, wow). The Space Horse’s BB drop is 75mm. Plus the Big Block’s seat tube is just a teeny bit longer than the seat tube on the Space Horse, and the top tube on the Big Block doesn’t slope. Hopefully that all means the Space Horse isn’t so tall. I think maybe the standover heights they quoted to me are measured some crazy way, because they don’t make sense when comparing the Space Horse to measurements for other bikes with similar geometry.

Yeah, I might be overthinking this because I’m just a teeny bit impatient for New Bike Day to come… maybe


stefb
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I dunno. I was told that there are different ways to measure bikes. I had no idea.


anon123
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Yeah, apparently there are. I don’t know that much about bike geometry or sizing or whatever, so I’m just trying to use my knowledge of geometry in general to figure this out. But I’m not sure it’s actually a productive endeavor… I just need to be patient and wait to try the bike in person. I’m not doing so well with that patience thing so far haha


stefb
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Yeah I guess the best thing is to figure out about what size you would be then try the bike.


anon123
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Yeah, I know I need around a 49cm. I just have short legs, so sometimes standover height is the deciding factor. I’m just hoping the 49 will fit since that’s what they’re getting in a few weeks; otherwise I’ll have to wait for them to try to order a 46.


anon123
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At last: bike shopping complete!

(Sorry, I can’t help showing it off; it is shiny)

_MG_0367


mr marvelous
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Nice bike. I’m sooo getting an All-City bike now


stefb
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All of the cool kids are doing it.


anon123
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Yes! Peer pressure! Mr marv, you must get one!

Dumb question about SPD pedals: Found the screw for loosening/tightening the tension. Okay. Loosened them all the way just to practice clipping in and out. Done. But… when both are loosened as far as they will go, the right one pops out pretty much as soon as I move my foot, but the left one is still quite hard to get in and out of. And I am a habitual left-foot-down rider, so that sucks, because I want the left one to be easier to get out of. Why are they not the same? Is there some other adjustment I don’t know about? Confusedddd


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Congrats!

In regards of pedals — I’ve found that in most cases the difference is very close in most cases. It’s a difference in feet that plays a role. If your right foot is dominant one (you use it to jump, or stop and turn while running) then it will look like right pedal is much softer.


anon123
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Thanks!

I am right-handed and presumably right-footed, so maybe that’s part of it, but it’s definitely not a small difference, so I really don’t think it’s all that. And my left foot is used to pulling out of the straps I use on my other bike and stuff, and my right ankle has always sorta had some issues so my right foot may actually be weaker at that kind of motion. IDK what’s going on. It’s weird.


Pseudacris
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Gorgeous bike!


Chris Mayhew
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@pearmask Re: cleats and getting out. Check the alignment of the cleats. Take a pencil (or similar) and line it up along the center line of the cleat, so that the tip is pointing towards the toes. If one cleat is rotated significantly it can take a lot of turning to get your foot out.

The other issue may be some shoe/cleat/pedal interference. Sometimes the cleat pocket of the shoe interferes with the engagement, in which case you want to take a knife and cut away whatever part of the sole is causing the problem. Clip the shoe into the pedal w/o your foot in it and have a look. Or take it to the shop you got it from and ask them to help.


rice rocket
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Try swapping your left and right cleats too (or clip your right shoe into your left pedal). SPD cleats are cast and aren’t post-machined, so sometimes they’re hit or miss.


Pierce
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It has a nice head badge


anon123
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Thanks for the advice, Chris & rice rocket. The alignment and cleat pocket seem to be a-ok. There may be some difference between the two cleats, although I couldn’t tell for sure. I even tried it with another set of cleats because I had a single-release and a multi-release pair. After trying to identify another cause, I think there really must be something up with the left pedal. It’s not a subtle difference — clipping in and out of the left one requires a lot more force and is even quite a bit louder. But in general, this pair of multi-release cleats seems to release with less force, so I’ll just use them for now and go ask Iron City about it sometime this week.

In related news, while figuring this out, I had my first 0 mph clipless fall. In my apartment. For some reason my brain was like “Sarah, you are totally rocking this clipping in and out thing, and it would be really fun to take your hand off this wall and see if you can, like, trackstand in your living room.” (What? Duh, no, of course I can’t.) It’s a shame no one was here to mock me, because I’m pretty sure it was a hilarious spectacle.


anon123
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And thanks, pseudacris!

And Pierce, I agree :)

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edmonds59
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Sweet Bike! I think I saw it outside OTB Sun. eve, it is un-missable.

I don’t know what to think about the pedal issue, if it’s that different from one side to the other, you should probably have a mechanic look at it before you clip-dump in traffic.

Also I see nothing wrong with attempting track stands in an apartment.


anon123
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Yeah, that’s not a bad point about getting someone to look at it first. I was thinking about trying it out on my commute this morning, but perhaps I’ll hold off on that.

That wasn’t me at OTB on Sunday, but I know there is at least one other orange Space Horse somewhere in the city, and probably more than that.


HiddenVariable
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horizontal track stand!

was that you and your space horse in iron city last saturday? if so, i was the fella with the giant beard asking about proofide.


rzod
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Damn, that is a beautiful bike. Congrats!


anon123
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I was so confident in my horizontal track standing abilities that I was doing this in the part of my apartment with hardwood instead of the nice soft carpet the next room over. I’m smart like that.

Yep, that was me. Nice to unknowingly meet you! Hah, I’ve pretty much been in there every other day for a while as this bike was being ordered and built and rebuilt etc. I think they are pretty sick of me.

Thanks, rzod :D

Riding without at least my dominant foot attached to my pedal in some way is just weird now since I’m used to having foot retention on my other bike, so I rode to work with just my right foot clipped in today, as a compromise just in case the weird left pedal decided to make me horizontal track stand in traffic. Did not die.


mr marvelous
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Seeing the bike in person it is a beautiful bike, How comfortable is the Brooks saddle?


anon123
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Thanks! Man, I am soooo excited about it.

Well, so far, I’m not sure about it, but let me get back to you in a few miles: I’m 99% sure that’s because

A. I still haven’t found exactly the perfect angle + fore/aft position

B. I’m used to a non-leather saddle with a cutout and stuff

C. I was riding in shorts that were a really terrible choice for bike comfort the past few days, because they were what was clean for me to go to work

D. All of the above?

So I’m pretty sure it’s *going* to be awesome


cburch
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Get the saddle wet and ride it for a few hours. Repeat this for a few days while proof hiding it over night. It will break in a lot sooner and be the comfiest thing ever. Very like good leather boots.


edmonds59
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Yes and as it breaks in take the slack out with the adjuster nut, it should not sag. But go gently because it’s not supposed to be a drum head either. Never use the adjuster nut if the saddle is wet.


stefb
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Heh nut.


Pseudacris
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I didn’t like my Brooks saddle at first. I bought it at REI in case I wanted to return it. Then after about 2 weeks I realized I wasn’t thinking about my saddle any more. I think one of the things than makes it “comfortable” is that it is hard and smooth, so a lot of the friction that causes discomfort is lessened.

In the rainy season I keep a plastic bag tucked underneath so I can protect it if I have to lock up outside.


jonawebb
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BTW Sheldon Brown’s advice on breaking in Brooks saddles, which worked for me, is here. It differs to a significant degree from Colin’s — Sheldon wouldn’t want you to get the saddle wet, and definitely doesn’t want you to turn the adjuster nut. Brooks saddles are expensive enough that it makes sense to study up on them a bit.

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