Bikes Reported Stolen 2014

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citywatcher
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Drewbacca
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WTG Brentwood PD!

As I said before, I really hope that the owners of the shop are reasonable and willing to work with the police to put a stop at the source.

We have to give them the benefit of the doubt otherwise, as I think they are justified to assume the bike isn’t stolen so long as it isn’t the same person bringing in another bike every week. Assuming they aren’t a front for a theft ring, we need their help rather than to burn bridges with them.

We need to get a list of pawn shops that deal bikes together. This shop had been completely off everyone’s radar until the FB swap post was made. The fact that there is a meth-clinic on the same bus route… no surprise, sadly.

It’s odd. Before all of this, I completely forgot about pawn shops serving as this sort of middle-man. If my own bike was stolen, I would have let a handful of bike-shops know, I would have watched CL and ebay, I would have shared here and on facebook… but it wouldn’t have even occurred to me to talk to pawnshops.


Steven
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In some states, pawnbrokers have to regularly provide a report to the police on all items pawned, so the police can check for stolen goods. But PA isn’t one of them. Its pawn shop laws are here.

I think there’s also a federal law that requires them to get picture ID from some or all people pawning stuff, but I don’t know the details. Maybe it’s just for really expensive stuff.

Citywatcher, it’s great that you got your bike back…or at least, a bike. :-) The fact that the bike you recovered has a different serial number than what’s on your receipt is concerning. Are the bad guys changing serial numbers? Or are serial numbers on receipts unreliable?

It sounds like you’re certain it’s really your bike that you found, not just the same model. But if serial numbers generally aren’t reliable now, that could make accurate identification harder for other victims.


angel71529
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so u mean to tell me that basically he got a bike back thats not even his…not yours and lied on top of it thats a crime itself


angel71529
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funniest shit is that’s. my late fathers bike that i sold to the shop so now im going to the police cause my name was on there for selling it and im a female who works two jobs and has two kids….so now im going to be in y
trouble


Drewbacca
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@angel,

Please let the OP clarify before you start accusing other people of lying.

I tend to trust that someone knows their own bike by the wheels/tires/handlebar grips/ bottle-cages/ scratches/ etc.

I know every imperfection on every one of my bikes, and no matter what a thief did to mix it up, I’d still know my bike if I found it. Granted, I also know that my serial numbers match documentation.

Bikes tend to have multiple numbers on them and it sounds like something else was mistaken for a serial number and written down on the original receipt. I have a couple of bikes that have more than one number on it appearing to be a serial number (sometimes the only way to distinguish is to know the system being used by the manufacturer). Individual components sometimes have serial numbers as well.

I have full faith that the bike belongs to the person who recovered it.
I find it suspicious that you claim to have sold a bike to this shop that has not even been on anyone here’s radar before this recent funny-business.


Drewbacca
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Can anyone here vouch for angel71529?

I have a hard time taking someone seriously who in one post claims to have had a $7500 dollar bike stolen while arguing that the u-lock failed.

Later followed by an attack on a poster that just recovered his stolen bike in which she claims in the post ” im a female who works two jobs and has two kids.”

Care to explain why a mother working two jobs has a $7500 bike laying around?

Sorry, something smells really fishy to me. I’d like for someone to confirm that you are who you say you are, if possible.


jonawebb
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@drew, thanks for pointing that out. I was fooled, but on second thought it’s an obvious hoax. Ms. Angel is single with two kids, has an asset her father left her that is worth thousands of dollars but sold it for very little to a pawn shop. Yeah, sure.
And you’re right, a used bike acquires all sorts of identifying marks, intentional or not. It’s really hard to believe that it wouldn’t be immediately recognizable to the owner.
But, OTOH, might be a good to look at the bottom bracket and write down the serial number you see there. Relying on the receipt isn’t the best idea.


angel71529
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hey jonawebb just to let u know the bike was only 800. and yes i sold it to a pawn shop cause i have a sick choldwhose 7 months old with a heart problem and i am working two jobs and sold a bike for 150 dollars to help pay for my kids stuff. so go fuck yourself. ur a real asshole cause im sure u got no kids Nd dont pay hardly any bills. well im a single mother who will do ANYTHING FOR HER CHILDREN ESPECIALLY MY SICK KID oh and for ur infor the bike was barely worth 280$ how about that. lets see what u would sell for a kid if it was yours ans had a heart problems go fuck ursf cause u just talked way crazy to a great mother and made a judgement


angel71529
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as for u drewbacca my girlfriend is a dr at children’s hospital and yes she did have a colnago stolen. so she posted something on here using my name cause she was reading about all the bikes. really u dont know shit. how about u callx me so i can twll u all about it. yes the colnago was my friends bike stolen. my dads bike was barely worth 800. NEW U FUCKI.G MORON. U ARE ALL A BUNCH OF FUCKING RETARDS TO BE HONEST WITHU, I CONTACTED THE POLICE ABOUT MY DADS BIKE BY THE WAY


Steven
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so u mean to tell me that basically he got a bike back thats not even his

I don’t think anyone was making an accusation like that, but I was asking if it was possible. Citywatcher later PM’d me and mentioned there were a bunch of customizations he recognized in the pawn shop bike, not to mention various familiar scratches. So despite the mismatched serial numbers, the identity of the bike wasn’t in question once he saw it.


Drewbacca
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LOL so your “girlfriend” is a doctor that works two jobs and has two kids and is worried that the police are going to come looking for her over a bike that she supposedly legally owned and sold… never mind the fact that a doctor would have a command over how to type and spell…

Keep digging your hole.

So, now angel is two people? Funny. You both have very similar typing/spelling.

So was it you or your “girl friend” who posted this response to the Pitt flyer?

“wow great description. …really. doez the guy have tattoos on his legs?? the thief looks like my uncle…..its not my uncle but im just saying that . a white male 6? tall is a broad description.
awhiteale
awhiteale”

And which one of you came up with this response claiming to have called the police (I think the only thing called was BS)

“well i made a call last night cause i saw a guy hovering over some bikes…..turns out it was the guys bike. and thecops were none too happy i wasted their time on a Saturday night”

You sure do like to claim that you call the police a lot.

Give it up, I just caught you in a lie. Your hostile response to me is exactly what I’d expect from such a person. The “threats” of calling the police on the above poster who retrieved his bike (with police assistance, for that matter) was the icing on the cake.

You are either here to troll (best case scenario), or you play a role in at least some of the recent bike thefts.


dfiler
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lol. This sounds like someone a doctor would date. The mastery of English, the attitutde… Totally what a doctor falls in love with.

The bizarrely combative attitude to such a welcoming forum would make me think it was misdirection by someone related to the thefts. Yet angel’s first two posts to this thread were earlier than when I first posted info on the pawn shop in question. So that seems unlikely.

But what explains the trolling attitude since the initial post? This is so strange.

“wow great description. …really. doez the guy have tattoos on his legs?? the thief looks like my uncle…..its not my uncle but im just saying that . a white male 6? tall is a broad description.
awhiteale
awhiteale”

“well i made a call last night cause i saw a guy hovering over some bikes…..turns out it was the guys bike. and thecops were none too happy i wasted their time on a Saturday night”

“hey jonawebb just to let u know the bike was only 800. and yes i sold it to a pawn shop cause i have a sick choldwhose 7 months old with a heart problem and i am working two jobs and sold a bike for 150 dollars to help pay for my kids stuff. so go fuck yourself. ur a real asshole cause im sure u got no kids Nd dont pay hardly any bills. well im a single mother who will do ANYTHING FOR HER CHILDREN ESPECIALLY MY SICK KID oh and for ur infor the bike was barely worth 280$ how about that. lets see what u would sell for a kid if it was yours ans had a heart problems go fuck ursf cause u just talked way crazy to a great mother and made a judgement”

“as for u drewbacca my girlfriend is a dr at children’s hospital and yes she did have a colnago stolen. so she posted something on here using my name cause she was reading about all the bikes. really u dont know shit. how about u callx me so i can twll u all about it. yes the colnago was my friends bike stolen. my dads bike was barely worth 800. NEW U FUCKI.G MORON. U ARE ALL A BUNCH OF FUCKING RETARDS TO BE HONEST WITHU, I CONTACTED THE POLICE ABOUT MY DADS BIKE BY THE WAY”

“Oh and drewbacca its pretty funny that ur shit sounds fishy to me everything u r saying. maybe u r the thief. so what if i did sell a bike u faggot ass dick eating child. yea im a single mom so the fuck what. guess i look like the guy in the video though huh….lol must be pretty hard considering i have huge tits u asshole. it actually ISNT his bike the police were just at my house for ur infor cause i filed a report oh and to let u know my uncle is the head detective of the robbery squad for pgh. so how about that”


Marko82
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Hey I’m glad we got a bike back.

I think everyone should take the time (Today!) to turn their bike upside down and take a photo of the serial# with your phone. You should also take a few photos of your bike in your living room or some such and keep them on your phone.

If your bike is ever stolen and you find someone riding it or find it locked up somewhere you can call the police and show them the photos to prove it is yours. I dont think just knowing the serial# would be enough to prove to a cop that it’s yours unless you carry your receipt with you. The thief can always claim that you sold them the bike, but there is no way to dispute that the bike was once yours.

I think the bike recovered definitely matched the owners photos. Why else would the POLICE have agreed it was his.


Swalfoort
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Marko, I did exactly that for all my bikes just yesterday. Thanks for that great suggestion.

At the risk of feeding the troll, I’d almost like to see a photo of Angel’s uncle….!

Sorry, couldn’t resist!

But congrats to all. I think that might be the fifth bike recovered this summer! It’s great to know that you all have my back, if and when mine ever goes missing.


edmonds59
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Also everyone please stop “quoting” that mess regardless of whatever that “angel” may or may not be about. Thx.


edmonds59
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I didn’t understand citywatcher’s comment about having a second bike for guests. W?


Drewbacca
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“I didn’t understand citywatcher’s comment about having a second bike for guests. W?”

After his bike was stolen, he took a picture of another “not his bike” with himself standing next to it. I took that to mean that he found a near-duplicate after his bike was stolen (never explicitly stated)… having gotten his original back from the pawn shop, he now has two bikes.

As I said long before the mess, there are some confusing statements that he needs to clarify. You aren’t the only one scratching your head.


citywatcher
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Yikes, so what do you do when your bike is stolen and you are riding regularly? You buy a new one! After a weekend of looking I decided to buy a new Cannondale to replace my stolen h300. So now I have an extra bike for visitors ;) got it?


edmonds59
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Ok that was kind of my assumption but after all the hullabaloo I wondered… didn’t mean to imply any funny business.


gg
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Seems we have conflicting stories here. One person says their bike was stolen and recovered from a pawn shop, but the bike had the wrong serial number on the receipt/bike? The person that sold the bike to the pawn shop says it was her late father’s bike.

I would caution jumping to any conclusions. I want to believe the bike was stolen and recovered, but also know better than assuming. It is a shame the serial numbers aren’t a match. That would sure make this easier to figure out.


Drewbacca
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LOL I missed this golden nugget last night:

“my uncle is the head detective of the robbery squad for pgh. so how about that”

Yes, how about that? The gift that keeps on giving! Well, MY uncle is the head of the CIA’s bike theft task force! Yeah!

(sorry edmonds! It’s just a *small* quote though).


Drewbacca
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@gg, the poster saying it was his/her father’s bike is just playing games… I pointed out all the inconsistencies above. Angel’s word is not worth anything (in my opinion, at least) given posting history.

While I agree that the non-matching serial numbers are a concern and I’d be curious how citywatcher made a positive ID (I do take him for his word, as I have no reason to doubt his character), that’s a different issue. The only potential conflict is between citywatcher and the pawn shop and was already mediated by the police… angel has absolutely no stake in this besides trolling (and no evidence, for that matter).

Of course, you are free to arrive at your own conclusions. I think angel’s posts speak for themselves.


stefb
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LOLZ “angel” sounds like a 14 year old juggalo.


bicycle heaven
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Another good place to look for bikes and I cant believe no one brought it up is the Pawn shop on the South side.I have stopped by to buy bikes many times but his prices are way to high for me to make any money off of them most of the time but he has a big line of bikes most are high end good looking bikes.I am not saying he buys stolen bikes and he seems like a straight up guy.I have bought bikes from the 51 shop a few times in the past and never found any to be hot, I think most Pawn shops are the same they buy stuff take info do whats right fallow the law with I,D but knowing they get a few stolen items time to time but again with I.D info they are ok by the Law.As a buyer of Antique bikes and used bikes all I can tell everyone is if I think in any way a bike is hot or they don’t have good I.D. I will not buy the bikes and what we do is quarantine them for 30 days and look on this site for post on stolen bikes [ great job you are all doing on that ],,,,,,anyways feel free to call me anytime and I am here to help everyone out, its the best for me, best for you and Pittsburgh.Another good place to look is at Trader Jacks Flee Market,they are open on Sat and Sunday and many bikes for sale.


jonawebb
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I did get out to Trader Jack’s last week, but it was towards the end of their hours, and lots of places were closed, also all their bikes had already been sold. One thing to remember on these places is they (and the thieves) work by selling things fast. So if your bike is stolen you should visit the pawn shops, flea markets, etc. right away.
We are lucky to have a place like Bicycle Heaven here to help us.


Drewbacca
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I’ll drink to that! Thanks again @Craig!


edmonds59
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There’s a place somewhere on the North Side that advertises bikes on CL all the time – Muya’s Pawn Shop. They put up pics of their selection and the bikes they have seem (to me) to be consistent with what you would expect people to legitimately and legally be selling to a pawn shop, i.e. NOT high end enthusiast or commuter bikes. But just throwing it out there, if someone is highly motivated to look for a stolen bike, there’s that.


stefb
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stefb
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At federal and parkhurst in the north side at the barber shop/pawn shop. I had a hard time telling what kind of bike it is in person, and this pic isn’t the best. Sorry. There were some jitney people that saw me stop to take the picture. It has one of those seat post mounted racks. I don’t see it listed anywhere, but it looks like it could have been a commuter. There are also smaller bikes in there that may be worth a look. Someone who doesn’t work across the street from this place may want to go in and take a look.


AtLeastMyKidsLoveMe
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Threads like this make reading through the threads on this message board worthwhile.

Wow.

Just, wow.


jonawebb
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Wouldn’t it be awesome if this thread actually led to the decrease in bike thefts? I went through the old posts and a week or so ago we were getting reports of a new theft every day or two. Nothing new has been reported in at least a week.
It’s also possible this is just a random lull, or the police have actually caught some of the bike thieves (if anybody hears about bikes being returned please post).
But it would be really cool if word has gotten around that the Pittsburgh bike community is watching, so that stealing bikes here isn’t as easy or profitable as it was until recently.


Benzo
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There have been posts on nextdoor in my neighborhood about thefts as well. I’ve tried to point folks here and drop some info about using u-locks. Not always well received, but I did PM with someone who wanted more info about secure locking and such.

Kind of makes me feel less safe locking my bike knowing that more people are locking securely.

It means that if we’re playing the ‘I don’t need to run faster than the bear, I just need to run faster than the other person’ game, then the other people are getting faster.

Because of that, I started drinking my own kool-aid and began carrying an accessory cable, in addition to my ulock, to secure my wheels, even though I don’t use quick releases.


Drewbacca
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As a matter of principle, I now stop anytime I pass a pawn shop… just to check.


bicycle heaven
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Ok,,just had a lady call me today that she had 2 bikes taken from the Water Front ,a Fuji Tahao Hybrid just bought that day sorry to say its a boys bike and a Trek Womens maroon / black bike,,,,,,,,,I did get a all Carbon road bike in today and we got photo I.D and I think its not stolen but will post it anyways ,,its a Scatante Comp any info on the bikes call me 412 716 4956 Craig.I can tell you all the Police in 5 zones are working togather thanks to Bike Pittsburgh and others


citywatcher
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Blue and white Gary Fisher AR Super T road bike with silver bottle holder. Pasadena Cyclery sticker. Mounting brackets for bike computer and head light. Rear skewer replaced with that provided by a bike trainer. Replaced the rear cassette with a new one with a lower gear.

Receipt pictures
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9m9fhebnu1mtmjp/20140803_000313.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9plrsy7awg8f8ng/20140803_000258.jpg

Thanks

Glenn Wagner


jonawebb
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Glenn, do you have any photos of the bike? Photos of the receipts will help you with the police, but photos of the bike will help people here recognize it.
If you don’t have a photo of your own bike, look up the same model and post a photo from the Internet — that will help, too.
Also, BTW, Trader Jack’s Flea Market in Bridgeville opened this morning at 6 am. It might be good to take a trip out there and look around. Also Rossi’s Pop-Up Marketplace in North Versailles opened at 8 am. If I was looking to sell a recently stolen bike quickly, I’d go to a place like that.


aplomado
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I don’t have any pictures of the individual bike, but a picture of the basic model in the correct color scheme is availabe at

http://emerys.com/product/gary-fisher-ar-super-triple-1157.htm

Also, it turns out that the rear cassette is not different from standard. Looks like the bike shop sold me a duplicate cassette.


scott
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OK, we had to ban angel for their BS.

Good news, an officer found the specialized that indyb6 posted (I PMed him). They have another 9 that they know are stolen, but need to find the owners.

They’re all name-brand bikes… Specialized, Trek, Cannondale and Fuji. Besides the Specialized, none of the other ones are listed in Jon’s wiki.


scott
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OK, we had to ban angel for their BS.

Good news, an officer found the specialized that indyb6 posted (I PMed him). They have another 9 that they know are stolen, but need to find the owners.

They’re all name-brand bikes… Specialized, Trek, Cannondale and Fuji. Besides the Specialized, none of the other ones are listed in Jon’s wiki.

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