Collision Downtown? – Wood at Blvd of the Allies

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ejwme
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A speedy recovery to your friend, Justin, and best of luck.

Lyle – just because it was a bus lane doesn’t mean the driver wasn’t either driving into it or coming from it. I admittedly don’t know the intersection at all, but it makes me nervous seeing people discuss hypotheticals and assuming that people did things even slightly correctly or rationally before such an accident. The perfect storm of wrongness could have preceeded this.

Sometimes the most logical and simple explination is not accurate – humans are involved, so undoubtedly the Shenanigan Factor will be sky high. I’m not blaming the injured cyclist by any means, I’m just saying drivers (and even cyclists) do some crazy stuff.

I’m hoping video either was snagged prior to the 12 hour loop or will be snagged prior to the 24 hour loop. The window of opportunity is fast closing.


Swalfoort
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From WTAE website (accompaniying the video interview with Perrine):

Channel 4 Action News’ Shannon Perrine reported that the driver of the car that hit the bicyclist stopped at the scene and talked to police.

“The bicycle was going across traffic and a car came and took the turn when they weren’t supposed to,” witness Nick Antonucci told Perrine.

Interview shows Antonucci to be a young professional – probably not a PPU student – dressed in white shirt, tie and suit vest.


JZ
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I am not a lawyer.

That said, I think that your friend should talk to a lawyer, such as Marc Reisman. Your friend should not discuss details of the accident publicly- particularly online, on someplace like this forum.


erok
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^^ If he is going the legal route, which he should, he should avoid saying anything publicly – unless his lawyer says it’s ok to do so.


edmonds59
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Justin, if you have contacts with the family, tell someone to move quickly on holding the Point Park video cam footage, to reiterate what someone else said. It’s probably not exactly what the family is thinking about right now.


Lyle
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@ejwme: just because it was a bus lane doesn’t mean [either party] wasn’t either driving into it or coming from it

Of course, that’s why I put it in ()s and said “plus”. It is unlikely, though.

Anyway, I’m going to hold off further speculation for now. I don’t want to suggest grossly illegal behavior on either part without access to more facts. Antonucci’s quote raises more questions than it answers :(


Boazo
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One of the pictures shows the blood they’re washing away is right in the middle of a crosswalk. Maybe the driver was making an illegal turn onto Wood (Wood is a bus only lane going North there) from BOA and hit the guy in the crosswalk. that would explain Antonucci’s reference to a “turn they weren’t supposed to make “. If you don’t drive downtown alot its easy to not know that some of the streets are bus only lanes.


ErinK
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@quizbot – head and face lacerations do tend to bleed an awful lot, so the amount of blood doesn’t look inconsistent to me.

Hope he’s okay, first I heard of this was my airport driver last night saying a cyclist had been killed downtown – glad that wasn’t the case.


StuInMcCandless
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My fear is that the driver was making a perfectly legal left on a green from wb BOA to sb Wood, and the cyclist blew the red on sb Wood and expected nobody to be there.

We cyclists do not need bad press, and especially a “See? Cyclists are stupid!” launch point for the ignorant radio loudmouths in this town. They can do more PR damage in five 50-kilowatt seconds than we can reverse in months of activism.


bikeygirl
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Those bloody pictures almost made me puke…. :(

I’ll pray for a full-recovery.

And yeah, get a lawyer asap.


Bikelove2010
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Is there any particular reason this got publicity? Is it because there were witnesses? or maybe because of all that blood ewwwww.(I think they should show the bloody picture on the news and maybe people will be will be more cautious of us bikers)

Best of luck to the victim and much patience and perseverance to his family and friends.


dwillen
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I’m guessing it was because it was downtown, and all the media folks were there already.


zentat2
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I witnessed this accident.

There was no truck blocking the biker. One second, there was no car and the next – she was there. I can’t even guess how fast she was going, but fast enough that I looked away from the crosswalk for 2 seconds at my ipod and the next, I heard and saw the collison. I heard several people around me say, “why the hell was she trying to make a left on red?”

I am an instructor at Point Park and was headed to class. Let me know if I can be of help.


joeframbach
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Could you tell where each vehicle was coming from and the direction each was headed?


Tabby
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zentat, you could contact the police about providing your eye witness account for their police report. Also maybe give your contact info to Justin (earlier in this thread) who is a friend of the victim in case he or his lawyer needs your statement.


spakbros
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I honestly wouldn’t say anymore about it here zentat.

Please PM the appropriate parties. It would be terrible to have your statement here used against the injured cyclist in any way.

You RULE for caring enough to post here. A+


Nick D
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@mick $ Lyle: Judging by where the windshield is shattered, I think the force needed would require the impact be much higher then 10mph. Windshields are very strong at the edges, especially on convertibles.


Noah Mustion
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looks like a fellow jimmy john’s delivery guy hanging his head in the last photo… ugh.

left turn on red. classy lady


zentat2
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Thanks for the feedback, folks. I will reserve further comment, but I did want to make sure Justin knew that I was out there for support.


Noah Mustion
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yes please make a statement with the police. if the driver broke the law then their ass needs to be held accountable… thanks for speaking up


Marko82
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+++++1 zentat for stepping forward. You might want to write down what you saw while it is still fresh in your memory but don’t show it to anyone. It will solidify for you what you think you saw. Time has a strange way of confusing the brain into forgetfulness of small but important details.


Bconnerly
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Hello,

I am the brother of the cyclist in the accident. Our mother and I finally made it here to Pittsburgh today and we’re at the hospital with him. She lives in Arkansas and I live in Texas.

His name is Dan, and he IS a delivery guy for JJ’s.

I am overwhelmed at the response this post has garnered, and I’m really happy that you cyclists seem to stick together and look out for one another. When he’s better, I know he’ll be thrilled to hear about this.

A quick update as to his condition: He is in stable condition. He does have 3 fractures to his spine. 2 in his back, and one in his neck. A fractured shoulder blade, and possible fracture in the left elbow. His face is pretty banged up from the windshield, but it’s not as bad as it looked.

He’s not paralyzed. He has movement and most of the feeling in all limbs.

That is all I care to say right now about his condition.

Bottom line: He’s going to make it.

Now, our mother has basically put me in charge of making the legal decisions and everything I’ve read so far on this post has been extremely helpful.

You can be sure we’re going to do everything we can to get the footage from the reportedly ‘4 cameras’ at that intersection ASAP.

We’ve contacted a lawyer, but I honestly wasn’t impressed with our first meeting.

If any of you have a lawyer to suggest, I’m all ears. Please PM me on here. BUT PLEASE, do not just send me the name of some random lawyer, or ambulance chaser. If you decide to suggest a lawyer for a specific reason, please STATE SO in the email. Maybe he has experience with bicycle accidents, etc..

Also, ZENTAT2, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE get in contact with me. I will attempt to send you a PM with my cell number, call or text and identify yourself as the witness from this forum.

My brother is ok, and he’s going to pull through. He’s strong, and has a lot of heart. I think you guys can agree that that just comes along with being a cyclist. It wasn’t a mode of transportation for him, it was a way of life..

A way of life that could have easily been robbed from him yesterday. Luckily he should make a full recovery and I know he’ll be more than ready to hop right back on that back. (or a new one anyways)

I am thinking of setting up a paypal account or something where people can make donations to get him a new bike. Would this be a good idea? He’s not really well off, and I know he busted his ass to get the bike that he had. I may just be easier to set up a donation jar at the cafe he works at. Delivering for JJ’s is only one of his jobs. In the evenings he works at Cafe Davia(sp?)

The owner there, Steve, is one of his best friends. I’ll get in contact with Steve tomorrow and maybe see what we can do.

Back to more urgent matters.

If you have any tips, advice, or representation recommendations, please PM them to me.

Thank you so much.


Bconnerly
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Real quick, I just found a lawyer page on the links from this site.

James ‘Jim’ Reed

“Bicycle Attorney”

Have any of you guys ever heard of him or maybe have something to say about him? good or bad?

Just wanting some opinions. Thanks. :)

http://www.bicycleattorney.com/Pennsylvania_bicycle_accident_attorney.htm


dwillen
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Bottom line: He’s going to make it.

I am very happy to hear he is going to be okay.

We’ve contacted a lawyer, but I honestly wasn’t impressed with our first meeting.

Not sure who you met with, but Marc Reisman specializes in bike accidents and has an office not too far from where your brother was hit. He represented me and several other people here and everyone I’ve heard from has been pleased with his services.

I am thinking of setting up a paypal account or something where people can make donations to get him a new bike. Would this be a good idea? He’s not really well off, and I know he busted his ass to get the bike that he had.

Your time would probably be better spent finding a lawyer you are happy with. If the driver of the car is determined to be at fault, his/her insurance should replace the bike and then some.


dwillen
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James ‘Jim’ Reed

“Bicycle Attorney”

Have any of you guys ever heard of him or maybe have something to say about him? good or bad?

Just wanting some opinions. Thanks. :)

That guy appears to be located in New York. You might have an easier time with someone based in Pittsburgh.


Bconnerly
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“Your time would probably be better spent finding a lawyer you are happy with. If the driver of the car is determined to be at fault, his/her insurance should replace the bike and then some.”

-dwillen

I know you’re right, but here it is 11:35pm. I’m at the hospital, spending the night in the waiting room.

I was just so overwhelmed with all the responses to this thread that it got me thinking about how you guys could help if you wanted.

For now I will definitely focus on finding a good attorney.

Having not been here when the accident took place, we are kind of in the dark as well. All that we know is what we’ve read and heard from the news. But it does seem that most fingers are pointed at the motorist being at fault.

I hate to point fingers, I wish this hadn’t happened at all, but if someone is at fault, I will make sure they are held responsible for their actions.

I will definitely look into this Marc Resiman. Just looking over that other guy, James Reed’s website, I was getting a much better feeling.

The lawyer we met with today, who is pictured on the back of the phonebooks apparently, didn’t seem to have a lot of knowledge about bicycle cases, and seemed to be treating this as just another motor-vehicle case.

I think I would be much more comfortable with someone who has handled bicycle accidents before.

:)


Lyle
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I’m sure you guys don’t have to sleep in the waiting room. There must be a half-dozen people who will put you up.


Erica
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If I wasn’t out the door so early most day, I’d let you have my couch, but like Lyle said, I”m sure someone else could help out better than I.


zentat2
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Thanks to everyone for the suggestions. I am in touch with Bryan and have written a detailed record.


joeframbach
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I don’t have a suitable apartment to host people, but I wouldn’t mind going out to dinner with you guys some evening while you’re in town.

The lawyer we met with today, who is pictured on the back of the phonebooks apparently

Not many people are impressed with Ed anyway. He just spends the most on advertizing.


Noah Mustion
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You went to Edgar Snyder? Heh.

Glad to hear your brother should make a full recovery.


Lyle
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I didn’t hear “full”.


Noah Mustion
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sorry; you’re right


ejwme
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I can’t offer a couch or spare room, I’m not close enough to hospitals to be of any use. Once my inspection is up to date (Monday or so), I can offer use of my car (manual, diesel, sedan), if it’s needed just PM me.

I’ll help with a new bike, as I’m sure most others who can will too, so don’t worry about that now.

Don’t rule out “full” yet, guys, only time can do that.

Bconnerly (and family) – *HUGS* to you and yours. I don’t think I’m out of line in saying – anything you need, ask the board, we’ll do our best.


Mary
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Also, please consider us a resource for general information about the city.

As a group Pittsburghers are kind and friendly people, but sometimes they forget to tell you the basics (like street names or store locations or whatever). I’m a transplant, and I love this city, but it can be frustrating at times.


Mick
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I work at Mercy Hospital, although I’m non-clinical and have little contact wtih the clinical side. OTOH, I’m a local and I know my way around. If there is anything I can do to help, please let me know. 412-232-5631

Mick


StuInMcCandless
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I’m local, too, and know the bus system pretty well. For $20, you can ride the buses all week (Sun-Sat), unlimited riding, compared to parking the car twice. http://www.portauthority.org gets you to their website, but you might do better with http://maps.google.com & zoom in on the bus stops. If you need help figuring out A to B, let me know.


Bconnerly
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Thanks again to everyone who has responded to this.

Of course, my brother has tons of friends who have offered to put us up, as well as my brother insisting we stay at his place, but you can probably imagine, there’s no other place in the world that we would rather be than right here in the hospital with him. We finally got a room at the McCaully Inn upstairs and have a couple of beds and a shower.

To update his condition:

A “FULL” rocovery is exactly what we’re expecting him to make. Amazingly he will not require surgery. He’s already moved out of the trauma center and into a more personal room where he’s not hooked up to a hundred monitors. They’re keeping him in a neck collar and back brace to reduce mobility so that his fractures can heal on their own with time. Also he should begin inpatient physical therapy tomorrow.

He’s already up on his feet. Not exactly walking, but shuffling.

His face still looks pretty beat up, but most of it is dried blood that they haven’t cleaned off yet so as not to agitate him more than necessary.

Other than some minor scarring on his forhead and face, he should recover with no permanent injuries that would prevent him from getting back onto a bicycle, and into his kayak which he loves almost as much as his bike.

He could possibly be out of the hospital as soon as next week and may only require physical therapy for a matter of weeks, not months.

All in all he is doing great. He has tons of friends and family (and even complete strangers) keeping him in their thoughts and prayers.

I have made contact with an attorney who has come highly recommended by the name of Mike George. We will be meeting with him tomorrow. I have contacted the security office that is responsible with for the camera(s) at the intersection. Understandably they couldn’t give me too much information over the phone, and their boss or manager is out of the office until monday, but I was assured by one security officer “We will do everything we need to.”

I am also in contact with Zentat2 and through her have found as many as 3 more witnesses of the accident.

Thank you all so much for the tips, advice, friendly words, and thoughts.


Morningsider
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That’s awesome news! Thanks for taking the time to update his condition on this board. That means a lot considering what you must be going through. Best of luck.

Side note: if one of his friends has not retrieved his bike yet, let me know. I know it is busted up but if there is anything he wants to keep, I would be happy to pick it up and hold it.


Bconnerly
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Yeah his bike has been retrieved, thank you so much.

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