Coming to Pittsburgh Tonight!: Bikestravaganza Tour

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Lolly
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Let’s get geeky together!

Please join us on September 29 from 6pm to 7:30pm at the Carnegie Library (Main) for a traveling road show of bicycle talk, movies, zines, and transportation activism and advocacy…

and THEN!

We’ll get on our bikes and ride together to OTB for an after-party, discussion with yummy drink specials.

More Details about Bikestravaganza…

Elly Blue and Joe Biel will present short videos and a slideshow about Portland, Oregon’s famous bicycle culture and infrastructure, followed by an interactive discussion of the future of transportation infrastructure and advocacy in our town and beyond.

Everyone is welcome to attend and participate in the conversation. Microcosm Publishing will have a table of books, zines, and movies. [Suggested donation is $3 to $10 sliding scale]

* Please RSVP to lolly@bike-pgh.org if you plan to attend so we can determine capacity.

(edited to include my email for rsvp. it’s not essential but helpful)

****** We can’t reserve spots in the library so the RSVP is just to get a rough idea of how many people to expect


edmonds59
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Whoooooo hoo! That’s great!

I would love to see monster turnout at this, show those Ptlndrs what up. Start telling everyone you know. Plus sounds like a fun night.

I think I’ll wear Stillers gear, “hey, p’land, how’s your football team, yo?”

Uh, I guess I’m répondez, s’il vous plaît-ing.


Sarapgh3
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Sounds interesting, where would you like people to RSVP? I would definitely attend.


edmonds59
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If someone hasn’t already, I would say contact REI and ask them to put it on their events calendar, and obviously Trek, Performance, V.O., Wpw (though I don’t know if wpw actually gives a rat’s about transportation, snark), et al.


Lolly
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Good ideas, I’ll get in touch with them.


edmonds59
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Any chance we could get a little something like this by the 29th? Dwillen?

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cburch
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holy shit. thats awesome. if it had the steeler/bike logo like the one in the sticker pack it would be even better.


dwillen
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You could easily do that with iron-ons.

Given that I still have about half an order of flock shirts, I’m a little hesitant to dump more cash into screen printing :-)


erok
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whoa that shirt rules.

i can add it to the collection


edmonds59
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Bring the excess flock shirts to this 29th thing, I wager they’ll go. It’s a burgh original.


Lolly
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One of the presenters is Elly Blue who wrote an article that spawned a big discussion on the message board when I first moved here:

Sexism in the Bike Scene


Lolly
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Another from me..

I know a lot of people aren’t on Facebook, but if you want to respond on that invite, here it is.

Come to Bikestravaganza! Lots of fun and great people watching maybe…


rachel_ding
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this sounds cool! i just read elly blue’s “sharing the road with boys.”


Lolly
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This is coming up next Wednesday. Mark your calendars, phones, fists, or wherever you write your plans. The capacity of the room is 50 so get there early / on time. Found out we can’t hold RSVP’s in the library.


Lolly
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Also, if you want to share this with other people or put up a flyer for this at your job / house, there’s a flyer here. Just write on the bottom that it’s September 29 at the Oakland Library, 6pm.


edmonds59
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Looks like the weather forecast has turned much better for this! I hope it holds.


Lolly
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Hello! This is tomorrow night! The weather looks magnificent! I just picked up Elly and Joe from the train station and they are sleeping upstairs in my house. They took the train from Portland to Baltimore to here and then are taking it back to Portland after this so they have traveled a lonnngggg time (four days) to get here to talk with us. Come out!

You should check out an article Elly just wrote for Grist about bicyclists paying for infrastructure. There are some good numbers in it for countering arguments that cyclists are freeloaders and need to pay for roads.


Tabby
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why train? Is that part of their message? Just curious cause it seems like an unusual choice.


Lolly
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I’m not 100% sure but I think Elly just prefers a long slow train to an airplane. This was at least her second cross country train trip. If I had the time, I’d definitely do that too.


caitlin
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really liked that article. Thanks for sharing, Im saving it and handing out copies next time some jaggoff says “YOU DONT PAY FOR THE ROADS”.

Hope to make it!


Lolly
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Hi everyone,

If you’re not already a member of Bike Pittsburgh, we’re giving out our new water bottles to the first five people who become Bike Pittsburgh members tonight (or renew). Also we’re having a special tonight so you can join for just $25 (or $15 if you’re a student / low income).


destroyyourface
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How was this? I completely forgot about it. bummed.


Lolly
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Though I’m not objective since I organized it, I thought it was awesome.

It would have been (much) better if we had more time for brainstorming and discussion but extenuating circumstances caused the event to start late and then we had to leave when the library closed.

We should have this discussion separately anyway. I was pretty inspired and giggly about some of the parts.

Thanks to the 61 people who came out last night!


edmonds59
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It was good!

2 favorite parts:

At almost every item that the Portlanders pointed out as components of their bike friendliness, I could think of an exact equivalent that we have here, bikefest = bikefest, bikefun = flock of cycles. About the only thing we don’t have is a Sunday Streets (need, need).

Also, they said that the rest of the cycling community needs to make Bike Pgh! seem like the reasonable, conservative ones, so the city will be happy to deal with Bike Pgh! That seems like an excellent strategy.


bikeygirl
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I missed this because I was working at the office until 9pm :(


Tabby
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I missed it too, was sick.

Edmonds- explain more about this idea of making BikePGH seem conservative? Should we form a band of timitos to play in contrast to Bikepgh?


edmonds59
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Just suppose, sometime in 2011, some un-named group performed a guerrilla road closure, say, Fifth Ave from Negley to S. Craig, on a Sunday morning – late Friday afternoon, like 4:30 (PennDot closing time) distribute an official looking notice to all businesses and homes on the street, then first thing Saturday morning do some massive distribution of flyers that the road would be closed Sunday morning for walking, running, cycling. 5:00 am Sunday morning borrow some orange barrels, detour signs, barricades, the whole 9 yards, those should be easy to find.

I bet that would get some press.

Imagine such a thing.


Tabby
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ooooooh! I like imagining this!


StuInMcCandless
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Using that approach, the very idea of a Pittsburgh Naked Bike Ride becomes much more imaginable.


t
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“Should we form a band of timitos to play in contrast to Bikepgh?”

Now I’m being refered to in threads I haven’t even posted in? There’s no cliques here, totally unlike high school. Just someones idea of fun, just for laughs.

I have some fun unconserveative ideas to step things up a notch, if anyones serious about a little bicycle radicalism. I break the law.


Noah Mustion
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timito

Nothing to do with cliques. You do present some of the more radical “us vs. them/fuck cars!” type ideas on here, the side of which you’ve come to represent cause you’re the most consistently vocal about them.

Unrelated: the tank in your profile pic – I’ve seen that somewhere. An art show in Cleveland; the artist made the tank out of soap and photographed it in various places… is that your work?


t
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That tank was made by of friend of mine, Jason Byers, this one is suet, and he is from Cleveland, good eye sir.


Marko82
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@timito +1 I thought the comment was unnecessary too. Although I don’t think it was meant to be mean spirited either.


AtLeastMyKidsLoveMe
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@timito – I actually thought it was kind of complimentary, I mean you have been made an archetype: timito (n): strong-willed individual, passionate about cycling first, last and always, willing to do or say what it takes to get his point across, often misunderstood.


helen s
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At the Portland presentation in the library the other night, the adult gender breakdown (I may have missed a few who slipped in and out when I was focused up front) was 26 women and 31 men by my count.


Tabby
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whoops, sorry timito didn’t mean it negatively at all. ALMKLM’s definition was what I was thinking. still, sorry I said it and offended you.


t
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When I was sixteen I rode a bike. I felt pressure

from others, to buy a car, my parents even. I didn’t want one. I was

probably gay.

When I was twenty six I rode a bike, some ten dollar thrift store

find, sometimes my friends rode with me, mostly they drove from the

suburbs to get drunk and break stuff.

People yelled at me from cars, they always yelled from cars, probably

because I was most likely gay. Different anyways. Sometimes cops would

yell, “Get up on the sidewalk.”

I’d yell back, ” Get up on these nutz?”

When I was thirty six I rode a bike. My friends would say “Still

riding a bike?” which to me was plainly obvious since I was in fact,

riding a bike. I’d chide back “And you sir are still a fat ass”

Now I’m forty six and I still ride a bike. I will never own a car, in

fact, I will not ride in them. I no longer ride my bike alone. I

sometimes strap my daughter Sarah to the back. She’s two and cannot

drive or ride a bike, well she can almost reach the pedals on her

trike, maybe next month.

I’m not going to put up with some punk threatening her life with his

bogus ass excuse for Manhhod, his ridiculous fckn car. You wanna be a

hard ass, step out from your little contraption son and I’ll show you

what’s up,. If you prefer to menace me and my girl from inside your

cage, that’s your preference. We can do it that way, I’ll get in.

I have a reason to give a fuck now, believe me I do. I’m sick of

people dieing in the streets. I’m not going to sit idly by and expect

others to advocate for me, I’m gonna take care of it myself, right here on Butler st.

That’s whats up.


StuInMcCandless
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Hear, hear!

The man may have an attitude, but he has a point, and it’s a worthy one. The car is not necessary in order to live.

I live 10, 12 miles out into the ‘burbs, and with the exception of the retired couple across the street, have the only driveway for at least 10 houses in every direction with just one car in it. Everyone around me thinks me an extremist. What, walk? What, take a bus? You take HOW LONG or HOW MANY BUSES to get to work? You BICYCLE 17 miles? in the dark? in the snow?

So, yes, I do have one car and do drive maybe once or twice a week, but I can fully understand and support timito’s point of view. It does take some guts to be the one out in front, the extremist, the absolutist, the futurist.

Everyone’s out of step but Johnny, but dammit, Johnny is right.

+1 timito


edmonds59
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“…I’m sick of people dieing in the streets. I’m not going to sit idly by and expect others to advocate for me,…”

So to respond to Tabby’s question, yes.


Lyle
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Extremist is a funny word. It’s really just a fancy replacement for “weirdo”, isn’t it? I think it reflects badly on those who use it. Many of my heroes were extremists.

The strategy proposed — making someone else out to be the “fringe”, the “wackos”, is a technique for ingratiating yourself with the establishment. Sometimes this is done by carving out the idealists in an organization and throwing them under the bus. It’s a cynical way to gain power and status for one’s self. But it’s also dangerous. It’s easy for an organization to lose sight of its real goals and focus on securing its position. They’ll call this “logrolling” or “going along to get along”. “You catch more flies with honey than vinegar.” “Politics is the art of the possible.” Eventually they turn things around, and their focus becomes convincing their members of the rightness of establishment policies. I think that democratic organizational structures, membership organizations, are more resistant to this than others, but in can happen to them too.

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