Coworker struck by car…any news?

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jkp1187
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Just curious – why do people shun the jersey barrier protected area?

And best wishes to John Strait.


Pseudacris
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^ I often avoid it because it is too narrow for 2-way traffic, has 3-4 blind curves, has a hairpin turn and/or a steep curb at one entrance & often has cruft along the way that I don’t want to ride over (broken bottles, wet muddy leaves). Even if I dismount, it is awkward to get past peds waiting for the bus, especially if they are wearing headphones or carrying groceries. It’s about as much fun as the sidewalk through Armstrong tunnels. A bad setup!

That said, I do take it during times when there is a lot of speeding traffic on 2nd Ave.


stefb
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+1 What pseuda said about reasons to not use that protected area.

When there is a lot of traffic on second ave,I carry the bike over the tracks, even if my bike and gear weigh 90lbs (yes, this happens sometimes). It was way slippery the other day.


edmonds59
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+”cruft”


brian j
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I mostly avoid this area these days (oddly, I prefer dealing with the Birmingham Bridge and Oakland). Sometimes I cross the tracks, sometimes I don’t. Like Chinston, I typically have loaded panniers, so picking up my bike is a pain in arse (though I do carry it up a flight of stairs to get my house).

I agree with Stu: it’s really not a safety issue in crossing those tracks. It’s not like bullet trains are passing through there. I’m more concerned about the annoyance of dealing with security at the UPMC lot.

Also, I typically only use the cattle chute when heading outbound–I will use Second Avenue when approaching the trail.


stefb
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i have never had anyone say anything to me about crossing through the lot.

anyway, i believe i have met the injured gentlemen a few times on the way home. our commutes would cross for a few blocks, and he is a pleasant guy to chat with. hope to run into him again in a few months.


ieverhart
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Does this John have a somewhat homemade (or homemade-looking) recumbent?

I’ve never timed myself doing both routes, but I remember once coming off the Jail Trail with another (experienced/fast) rider. I hopped the tracks, he didn’t and presumably took Second Avenue. As I recall, he passed me by just as I was arriving on Saline Street. Obviously a couple factors play into this (if you get a red light, how comfortable/fast you are running down the ballast rocks) but my take-home was that going on Second Avenue, while it feels like a big detour, is not any longer, vis-a-vis time, than crossing the tracks.

This crash might somewhat change my calculus, but if I am not getting there any faster, have a non-zero chance of getting arrested/hassled for trespassing and have to worry about moving trains, I figure it’s better to ride on the official route on Second Avenue (usually not taking the chute). Even if I do contemplate the unofficial route almost every time I need to make that connection.


edmonds59
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Maybe in the spring a vigilante cleaning/cruft removal of the cattle chute area would be in order.


helen s
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Any time it is raining with a cold spell approaching, I clear the debris around the drain so there is not a big glacier the next morning.

I am sometimes tempted to toss bottles and other litter back into the street. If I knew the litterers would be coming by shortly I would!


stefb
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I have often thought of clearing some of that stone away wide enough for a bike or for some foot traffic. But i decided against it. I figured that someone would just put it back. Also,I think that sometime this summer, more rock was dumped there at some point. I dunno. I could be wrong. Maybe I just wasn’t paying much attention before.

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