Crush the Commonwealth 2013

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that guy
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The VERY far-off and highly unpredictable forecast looks perfect!


Nick D
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If 3-4 people need a ride back and can pull together to cover expenses [gas/tolls/etc], I would happily make the drive to bring you guys back.


stefb
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Hoping there is no rain. I have been anxiously checking the forecast. It would be nice to not have to carry as many clothes as I carried last year.


anon123
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As you already know, Nick, I’m definitely in if we can find a couple other people… if @that guy wants a ride, we have at least 2. Who else wants in?


flyS564
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pearmask wrote:As you already know, Nick, I’m definitely in if we can find a couple other people… if @that guy wants a ride, we have at least 2. Who else wants in?

At this point I’m winging it. When I get to Philly I was going to google map an amtrak station, figure out what to do with my bike and sleep half on top of it until the next train comes. I’m still confused about the trains and bikes, no checked luggage etc. If I’m with you guys in Philly I would love a ride. If you end up being too rad and doing the ride in 30 hours or something I’ll go back to plan B.


that guy
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flyS564 wrote:

pearmask wrote:As you already know, Nick, I’m definitely in if we can find a couple other people… if @that guy wants a ride, we have at least 2. Who else wants in?

At this point I’m winging it. When I get to Philly I was going to google map an amtrak station, figure out what to do with my bike and sleep half on top of it until the next train comes. I’m still confused about the trains and bikes, no checked luggage etc. If I’m with you guys in Philly I would love a ride. If you end up being too rad and doing the ride in 30 hours or something I’ll go back to plan B.

The train leaves at 12:30 pm Sunday and I think 1 pm Monday. The train station is right in downtown, about a mile from the Liberty Bell.
All you need to do is turn the bars on your bike sideways and roll it into one of the giant bike boxes. The only drawback is that you will have to ride the train to DC and then up to PGH. It’s about a 12-hour ride.


jonawebb
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I think you also have to take off the pedals. At least I did when I took the train back from DC. From the Amtrak site:
“Bicycles must be partially disassembled in order to fit in an Amtrak bicycle box. Loosen and turn the handlebars sideways, and remove the pedals. Amtrak does not supply tools for disassembling.”
So you’ll have to have a way to do that.


flyS564
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If I can buy a ride in the fiks van I would rather do that, Nick. I’m not going to openly say my time goal because last year that back fired and I have been road riding less so my time goal is probably 10am on Sunday to be safe and on the really high side. Preferably Saturday night but I won’t say that in public or anything because then it will be Sunday night. The max road miles I think I have in this year is ~30 so I’m going to head out this weekend for a test run somewhere. I blame mountain biking.


reddan
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flyS564 wrote:The max road miles I think I have in this year is ~30 so I’m going to head out this weekend for a test run somewhere.

Greg, you might want to hit the 200k this Saturday…you’d need to buy WPW membership, but the event fee is waived for your first brevet.
125+ miles of road riding, roughly comparable to the stretch between Rockwood and Chambersburg (but with no Cowan’s Gap climb), with pizza at the end.

if you do decide to ride it, Jim will accept morning-of drop-ins, but would prefer that he be emailed in advance.


flyS564
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Dan, I have been meaning to join in on these so I just signed up for WPWM and will try make the ride this weekend. I only worry about speed up the hills really so I hope I can keep up.


reddan
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flyS564 wrote:Dan, I have been meaning to join in on these so I just signed up for WPWM and will try make the ride this weekend. I only worry about speed up the hills really so I hope I can keep up.

I wouldn’t worry. Historically, this route causes the riders to fracture into at least two or three packs, so there’s likely to be someone of compatible riding speed; it’s also early enough in the season that there will be plenty of folks who are not yet in peak condition.

I do recommend taking a good look at the cue sheet and map in advance, though, as well as bringing a copy.


Pierce
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Gah! I’ll jump in on the Fiks van


anon123
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Greg, if I’m riding in the van, I don’t think you’ll have anything to worry about – I think the chances of me being sufficiently rad to finish in 30 hours are, uh, pretty low


mrosswog
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Is anyone planning to camp at cowans gap state park?


stefb
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I was planning on staying overnight in a hotel in breezewood or maybe beyond, but I have heard of people sleeping inside the abandoned turnpike tunnels. Not sure how I feel about that one…


rice rocket
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Those tunnels are COLD.


mrosswog
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Camping on the abandoned turnpike sounds awesome! I googled and found others that have done it. I wouldn’t sleep in the tunnels (too creepy) but I’m sure there’s a nearby place where I can hang my hammock.


mrosswog
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Just did 82 miles in this insane wind we’ve been having. My knees and PMA are shattered. Not feeling good right now.


stefb
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If it is windy for CtC, the wind will likely be at our backs.


anon123
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Does somebody have a .gpx file and/or cue sheet already put together for this route, by any chance? (Maybe this has already been discussed and I just missed it?)


anon123
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Juuuust kidding… just found Dan’s RideWithGPS link from his CTC FAQ


anon123
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Also, this Fiks van thing is still kind of up in the air, so I might still be looking for a way back: if anyone is already driving back and might have room for me and my bike, I would gladly pay for (more than) my share of gas and so forth. If I can help it, I just don’t really want to have to deal with boxing up my bike and riding a train for 12 hours or whatever while delirious after riding 400 miles

Or if anyone wants to split a car rental or something, let me know


Pierce
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That makes it easier for me to rescind my offer of coming along; didn’t bother putting my bike together this weekend and I’m thinking about moving the next


Gerry Durishan
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A friend of mine and I took this route to Philly last September. I haven’t read through all the entries, but I thought I’d share some notes.

The S Route is very well marked. I felt safe through 90% of it. We had no problem finding food throughout the entire trip. The abandoned turnpike is pretty rough. There are lots of potholes and such. The road in the tunnels have been repaired. All the holes were filled in w/ cement. yes, they are cold. I imagine camping on the AT would be very safe. It’s not clear where you exit the AT, but its on the right.

Be careful around the area of Valley Forge State Park. There isn’t much space for bikes and the S Route isn’t clearly marked. Check your maps around Valley Forge Christian College. We had to stop for directions in this area.

Wish I could do this with you. Have fun!


flyS564
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I decided to bail. My legs were okay on the 200k. I think I’m mentally not ready for the ride this year + I figure it’s around $400 in expenses between motels, hotels and returning and I would rather not spend it this year. I decided to help bring one rider back most likely on Sunday. Dan, we were riding with Jim? I believe on Saturday. What’s his username in case I have room and timing works out?


mrosswog
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Tomorrow!


reddan
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*pout*

I’m out for this year. Too many things hanging fire that I need to deal with this weekend.

I’m still planning on the 300K next weekend.


pbeaves
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If you can’t make the whole ride, there’s always the Breakfast romp.
C’mon down & show some pgh love for the mass start our to McKeesport then the turn around back to the city for some grub.

(there haven’t been any established plans / locales for eating, its up in the air at this point. but im sure somethign will be open than can accommodate our needs.)


Marko82
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I think the eat n park at the waterfront is 24 hour, or the ihop going up Brownshill rd., or the joint beside OTB. I guess it depends on how many people show up. Mmmm pancakes.


Mick
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Let’s see if I can get my tired, old, fat, lazy ass out of the sack for an early morning ride.

I like pancakes ;)

@ marko82 … or the joint beside OTB.

That has a certain appeal to it as well.


TeamDecaf
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Best luck, stefb!

Crushit, eh.


Pierce
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@mick

If you want to meet them closer to Pittsburgh, I’d be willing to join you

They go past second ave right? Where are they jumping on the trail now? Hazelwood? Could meet them at the HMB too


JaySherman5000
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A lack of physical and fiscal preparation will keep me out of the ride this year, but may Lob bless all of you courageous souls that venture east to the Bell in a few hours. I wish you fast descents, easy climbs, and a strong tailwind.


mrosswog
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100% chance of thunderstorms in the forecast for breezewood… LOL.


Vannevar
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East Carson street closed at becks run / water plant for demolition saturday.

Good luck to all the Crushers.


Marko82
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Six of us saw the riders out to Mckeesport this morning. Nice looking bunch of riders – good luck & crush it!

ps – the pancakes were great!


Mikhail
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Team “Breakfast” totally achieved its goals in CtC. :)

BTW Keystone scrapeyard part of the trail is almost over. Nice and smoooooooth asphalt!


pbeaves
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while still technically closed, somehow the keystone gate was..um..”open” this morning.
(shhhhh)


Pierce
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It’s been open since about Tuesday or Wednesday night :P

Agreed, it’s pretty sweet


pbeaves
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sooo, who’s “winning”?

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