Cyclist killed on Harts Run Rd.
ALMKLM – I like that better. I’ll at least put that on the sign, if not wear it on a T.
“oh, you’re not from the city…”
I jaywalked in NYC
NYCcop: HEY Pitts-BURGH!
Me: How’d ya know I’m from Pittsburgh?
NYCcop: Pittsburgh, St Louis, whadevah.
in light of the thought process displayed in Wisconsin in a case with too many parallels ( http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/a-new-reason-to-have-a-3-ft-passing-law#post-44974 ) I figured I’d bump this up. August 27th was the date agreed on yes?
What new facts have come to light lately? New eyewitnesses come forth? New victims of the act? New test results? New physical evidence? New expert testimony? I’m curious, because I hadn’t heard about a resolution so the new developments must still be coming in fast and furious. It’s amazing that after all this time new information is still coming to light.
Time for an estimate of completion.
I’m not the speediest cyclist normally, but I vote we ride REALLY slowly the 27th. REALLY REALLY slowly.
@ejwme That Wisconsin case is completely disheartening. Thanks for bumping this up and returning attention to it – it would be horrible if ANOTHER district attorney decided not to follow up on a case because too much time had passed.
No one (aside from Stef and Colin) seemed to object to the 27th, so I think we should try to move forward with that date.
That evening is also a critical mass, Friday night at the track, among other things. So that revisits the question – morning or evening? I would favor the morning, I think, so as to not lose potential riders to those other events, but I’m curious about other people’s thoughts.
Also, there’s the question of route. Something like Allegheny River Blvd., as suggested earlier, would be good for visibility but potentially much harder logistically for a lot of people. An alternative would be to start at Dippy in Oakland and ride into town from there – less visible, perhaps, but easy-ish in that people won’t have to worry as much about finding a way to get to the start. Thoughts/ideas?
Im in for the 27th, just need to know time and place. I am willing to take the day off work if need be. Im near ARB but can make it to dippy as well as long as it isnt either to early or to late.
Let’s do this! I have no preference, so just set the time & date and I’ll be there.
I like morning, smack dab in the middle of the lemming run to work. Gives people a chance to gripe and talk about it at work.
I live out about five blocks from ARB, but I favor a nice, long, slow, very visible ride from anywhere. I’d rather a ride from the Oval (Mt Wash blvd) than Dippy, I think the parking at the oval is free (vs. Dippy, for any who would need to drive to the ride), and there’s less traffic farther out… maybe. OTOH we could leave from somewhere closer to Don’s neck of the woods and ride downtown from there, but I don’t know how far that is or if that would eliminate anybody time/distance/parking-wise.
Let’s do the morning of Friday the 27th. I’m working on logistics, but I’ll post meeting times in a bit.
@ejwme, that’s a good idea about the Oval. I think the biggest challenges with starting farther out on ARB (say, Oakmont) or in Fox Chapel are safely getting riders out to the meeting point, parking for anyone who needs to drive, and then getting anyone back out there who might have parked and needs to continue on to their workplace – while minimizing any perceived “inconveniences” that might keep people away from the ride.
I think having a large group present is very important, and I’d like to try to make sure that the route is as accessible to everyone as possible. An option could be meet at the Oval, and over the course of the ride (staying on visible, major arterial streets) stop by Oakland and pick up anyone who might not have been able to get out there in time before continuing on to the city.
I’m working on figuring out some of the logistics and will hopefully have a final location and time in the next day or two.
It might be better and more visible (depending on numbers) to have seperate groups start out (at the oval, at Dippy, On the Northside) and all converge on a single spot. this would only work out if we could get large enough groups (10 or 20 at least) at each group. then people from different areas would find it easier to meet and the total area affected would be larger. Like I said tho you would need a good size group at each place otherwise it will just look like a couple people riding bikes. Either the oval or Dippy is good for me. I live close to the oval but I can always find my way to oakland.
If the separate groups starting out and converging on the city works out, I can try to gather a group from the South Hills. West Liberty Avenue with two lanes of cyclist would certainly gather attention.
If we did a group each direction, N S E W, maybe one meet point farther out then one closer to pick up the urbanites, then converge. It sounds more complicated than it is(I think). Using east as an example, Suburban meet could be Oval, Urban meet could be Dippy, meet the other directions at court steps. Or just one urban meet point, if Dippy is convenient enough and there just aren’t enough people otherwise.
Coming from north, I would be happy to figure out how to get to some point on ARB super-early in the morning, though joining a group coming down Butler past 40SB would be easier.
The bigger the pack, the more attention we draw. I’m for fewer, bigger groups.
I think the timing should consider two things: the DA’s schedule, and the suitability of the evening news. The TV news loves loves loves live standup events. But the thing will totally backfire if the DA gets on the news the next day and says “I woulda been there, but I was in court prosecuting a drug lord”
I was wondering if anyone knows if the driver that killed Don Parker is going to be prosecuted. I was away for a good chunk of the summer, and was not able to find any references after searching the Post-Gazette recently.
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