Dangerous Drivers Thread, vol. 2
Someone needs to tell the driver that probably no hermaphrodite/intersex person can self-fertilize.
Why doesn’t long distance eastbound traffic stay on Liberty Ave. to at least 32nd St and cut down to Penn Ave. If they want to completely avoid cyclists and pedestrians, they should take Rt. 28 to the 31st Street, 40th Street, or 62nd Street Bridge and access Penn Ave. or Butler St. from there. If necessary, they can take Rt. 28 to Highland Park Bridge and take Washington Blvd/5th Ave. to Penn Ave for east end destinations. Bigelow Blvd. to the Bloomfield Bridge can be used for motorists from Downtown to get to Bloomfield. Smallman St. is not intended as an alternative to Rt. 28, Bigelow Blvd., or Liberty Ave. Motor vehicle traffic can take the Blvd. of the Allies or Parkway to get to Regent Square and Wilkinsburg.
Z, that would make sense. The people complaining are not sensible.
I guess by now you’ve all heard about the terror act of a man who drove a home depot rental truck down a bike path in NYC. Eight killed and at least 4 more injured.
Tuesday, about 6:40 PM. Freeport Rd., Westbound between Center Ave. and Western Ave., Aspinwall Plate No. EBS-2177 Green Toyota Corolla.
ZGS-1086 grey Chevy pickup, woman driving. I’m driving 35 in a 35 zone (Babcock Blvd, Siebert to Millvale). Honking, high beams, attempting multiple times to pass me on the right.
Why do so many people drive like maniacs, especially in places where pedestrians, cyclists, and transit users can be found? Last year, someone got mowed down getting off a bus in Aspinwall on Freeport Rd. opp Western Ave. I use that bus stop nearly every day in which there is no rain. IF YOU WANT TO DRIVE LIKE A MANIAC, YOU BELONG ON RT 28 WHERE A COP CAN WRITE TICKETS, IN AN INSANE ASYLUM, OR IN JAIL.
Impatience, self-centeredness, bullying, oversized engine power, sense of impunity to the rules … compounded with absence of enforcement.
I’m just getting started on that list.
Someday, we’ll make headway.
Today, I had an altercation with someone driving a pickup truck on Center Ave. The guy gunned his engine behind me as if he was trying to pass me to the right despite there being a stop sign 1/20th of a mile ahead. I pulled right trying to stop him from passing me since the speed limit is 15MPH and because I woul have caught up at on of the the stop signs which exist at every intersecting street in all directions in which travel is legal. I still wonder why there are no stop signs or speed limits along the alleys essentially meaning anyone can just speed down the alley nonstop at 55 MPH. Whose to blame if some pedestrians get killed or the speed demon crashes into parked cars or garbage cans?
I had a driver on Carson St yell at me because I crossed in front of him as he was pulling up to a stop light. Sometimes people just want to yell at somebody and pick any convenient target.
I was going to OTB, Crossing to the parking. The light was red, he had to stop.
Recall the guy who jumped out of his car to throw me off the bike? Plate JJV-1316. I had a minor run-in with him today. East Street inbound, just past Venture St; in fact he was on Venture, approaching the light when I went past (on the green) on East. That little bit of East has no bike lane, is one lane wide, has a full curb on the right and a raised median on the left. Passing a bike there cannot be done. Yet he came up behind me and beeped the horn a dozen times in the 1/10th of a mile before it opens back out to three lanes (one inbound, one outbound). Eighteen inch pass, but no further trouble.
This bad driver complaints is actually on a fellow cyclist. And there might be some differing opinions on this out there but I’m gonna say it anyways. To the guy who biked the entire length of Penn Ave from the Strip District through dahntahn today around 12:30. The city does give us a bike lane once we get past the 16th st bridge. Please use it. I was behind you the entire time (in the bike lane) and watch all the traffic interaction in front of me. Lots of drivers looked frustrated with you…and I’ll say rigthfully so.
Now I probably will get backlash about there not being a law requiring the use of the bike lane or that he had just as much legal right to be on the road. But this complaint isn’t about legal rights or even bicycle safety for that matter. The guy was not biking in the middle of the road or swerving. He had bright yellow panniers and jacket and several flashing lights. He allowed room for cars to pass. So he was doing everything right. This is about fostering a better relationship with the cars we share the road with and the community. Something I feel a lot of cyclist FORGET that the effort is a two-way street (only a small pun intented). Listen, I get it. We are on the defensive so much that clinging to our legal rights is the only ammunition we have for our share of the road. But far too often cyclist use their legal rights…to be d1cks. Yes, I said it. I can admit. Because I’ve done it myself.
The problem is that far too often we don’t do anything to IMPROVE relations with the cars. We put 100% of the effort on them. “We’re here, so get used to us. If you don’t like it, tough. I’m obeying the law.” But when we take that attitude and do things that piss off drivers (whether in the right or not) it sets us back. It’s easy for me to ask fellow bicyclist to please stop at stop signs or don’t run through red lights. Because were talking about the law. Many still ignore those laws and it makes us ALL look bad. But in this case, even though the guy is in the legal right, a simple act of courtesy to your fellow vehicles by using the bike lane the city has provided to us goes a long way. You’re biking right beside the bike lane anyways. Just move over. Your pride will heal.
So let your armor down for once. Be courteous to others on the road. And every once in a while ignore what is “right” and do what is “polite.” Please use the bike lane if it is there.
- This reply was modified 2 years, 2 months ago by KevPgh.
There’s a whole anti-bike lane thing. See Forester’s “Effective Cycling” (which, btw, is a great book in other areas). There’s also the converse, from Copenhagenizer.
Forester followers: bike in highly visible clothing, take the lane, wear helmets.
Copenhagenizer followers: bike in everyday clothing, advocate for bike lanes, don’t wear helmets.
Both groups are dead certain they’re right. I think of their attitudes as being something like the anti-vaxxers. You can’t argue with them. They have whole internet pages backing them up. And any studies showing they’re wrong are done by people in the lucrative helmet industry, or by people trying to scare people away from biking.
Sigh, yeah… Forester had many good points for his time (forty years ago), but they were so saturated with intolerance and invective that he made lasting enemies out of people who should have been his natural allies. Although I agree with the majority of his points, I still can’t stand reading “Effective Cycling” because it’s so bombastic and arrogant.
Sadly, the negativity he engendered seems to be his most lasting legacy for us. I blame him for a large portion of the enmity that functional/utility cyclists and modern community-based bike advocacy groups as a whole bear toward roadies, and vice versa.
In Boston, the Complete Streets alliance was successful in helping peds and cyclists see the bigger picture and begin to erode the contempt between the various subclasses of riders (as well as peds). I have hope that it’ll produce similar benefits here.
Looking for a cyclist who might have witnessed a car-on-car crash today (Friday 1/12/18) just before 5 pm on Melwood in (or near) Polish Hill involving my friend’s small orange hatchback. Feel free to send a private message – thanks.
When I was out to get the last tag, I stopped at Rite-Aid on Saw Mill Run Blvd. I got off of the T at South Bank, turned right onto Saw Mill Run Blvd., right onto Fairhaven Rd., left onto Stewart Ave., left onto Saw Mill Run Blvd., and right onto the jughandle to the parking lot entrance. I got at least 3 horns on Saw Mill Run Blvd. and one on Fairhaven Rd. There is a 35 MPH speed limit which I think is reasonable for that road given all of the traffic lights and crosswalks. Of course, a cyclist cannot move that fast on that section of road so traffic moving faster should move completely into the left passing lane just as they would to pass a truck, bus, or any other slower moving vehicle.
- Why do they have to routinely exceed the speed limit by 10 to 20 MPH given that they are going to have to stop for red lights and watch for pedestrians?
- Until local police departments are allowed to use radar and laser, State Police officers should routinely patrol the area and bust there violators of the law with the maximum fine allowed by the law.
- This reply was modified 2 years, 2 months ago by zzwergel. Reason: Add comma
Also, today, I saw a car commercial with a mountain bike in it.
Zz, that’s the video that got talked about on the WDVE morning show.
I like Z’s work. He’s out there, documenting conditions the rest of us somehow manage to put up with. He’s right. This total disregard for speed limits is getting people killed, usually other motorists.
I’ve done a lot less biking and a lot less video than I was a year or two ago. Job change, equipment problems, less willingness to duke it out with stupidity on Perry Hwy after getting hit in Oct 2016. So I’m glad he’s out there with his camera.
Bethel Park, Library Rd. southbound 500 feet north of Sarah St. by #5668, unsafe in-lane pass while I was avoiding a parked car. Blue Honda van plate number JCP-5388.
In biking to work downtown for 30 years I was edged off the road only once. This silo of bad driver reports makes me wonder what has changed. Was it my choice of routes? (I refuse to ride where the traffic is fast and the cartways narrow like Liberty thru the Strip, Penn thru Point Breeze and Fifth thru Shadyside.) Is it the attitude of drivers? or the attitude of cyclists. Civility on the road seems to be reflecting the political climate. When I am driving, I do find myself having little patience for my fellow cyclists who run lights, ride at night without lights (while wearing black). With a little more Zen and an abundance of caution I still look forward to my next ride.
I’ve gotten more zen over the years. Today I had a totally unsafe pass on Penn in the strip. I just let it go. Getting angry or trying to catch up and confront the guy won’t work.
Can you post a link to the radio thing? I keep getting YouTube comments regarding that and I keep thinking it’s some kind of joke since no one will post a link.
Thank you, I think it was your work that has inspired me to do this. What kind of equipment failures did you have. Do you still take the bus to and from work in the Steel Tower?
- This reply was modified 2 years, 2 months ago by zzwergel.
here is video of the pass.
- This reply was modified 2 years, 2 months ago by zzwergel.
I was down a bike over the summer, and my front camera quit, both at about the time I did that video seminar. I still do ride, but my new job encourages working from home, so entire days go by without going outside, let alone dealing with traffic, the elements, cold, and darkness.
Road rage in Oakland. Per the guy filming it:
“A cyclist pulled up in front of the red SUV in front of me. The angry yinzer in the red SUV then rapidly pulled forward, braking just before he rear ended the cyclist. The cyclist pulled forward again to get away, the guy in the SUV almost rammed him AGAIN, then opened his door and began attacking the cyclist. That’s when i started filming. ”
Several news stations have called us about this. it’s not clear yet whether anyone involved called the police. So far, they are not investigating, as far as we can tell
FWIW, I found this through Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/pittsburgh/comments/7t1or5/saw_this_shit_tonight_in_oakland_if_you_are_on_2/?ref=share&ref_source=link
Alicia George, spokesperson for the Pittsburgh Department of Public Safety told CP when asked about the incident: “I am aware of the video but at this time, there is no police report to verify the incident or confirm if/when it happened.”
Perhaps the rider isn’t comfortable going to the police. They ought to, though; as much as anything drivers must not get the idea it’s acceptable to assault cyclists and damage their property.
Well, you can hear at the end the cyclist telling the driver whose filming “someone needs to get that guy…tell the police that he assaulted me on the street…” and then proceeds to give the driver his phone number, just before the video cuts out.
My neighbor, who is doing home construction, was able to look up the owner of a car that is blocking his dumpster pickup, using the license plate. I’ve looked into this in the past and I think it might be illegal. But, still, someone out there has the ability to find out who the owner of the car with license plate #HYM-6986 is, whether or not the bicyclist files a police report.
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