Dangerous Drivers Thread, vol. 2
It hit the post gazette . Maybe that’ll force the police to take action
Not sure it would work, but what about the guy who filmed the assault filing a police report?
In addition to the Post Gazette and WTAE, the road rage story in Oakland made KDKA and WPXI.
Someone needs to educate MB and Jeff Maxwell in the Post Gazette comment section about the “rules of the road”. These people who justify the driver’s actions because the cyclist deserved it for breaking the law…which he didn’t.
I don’t filter, but I can’t understand why cars get so pissed about it. Cars are allowed to pass a moving cyclist, so shouldn’t it be completely fair for a bike to pass a stopped car. I mean, equal right? They get pissed like the bike is “cutting in line”. If that’s their problem then they should be forced to stay behind all bikes on the road. No passing by anybody, then maybe they’ll see how dumb their logic is.
This is the mentality of a driving culture not familiar with multi-modal roads. They will slowly change.
I’ve had colleagues joke that they would open a door on filtering motorbikes. I always respond that if it bothers them that much, get a bike.
Are you supposed to allow someone to assault you in that manner?
City put out a press release today that the police were investigating
Had a very unpleasant encounter with a driver today. I had decided it was too hot to ride home, and was waiting for a bus on Liberty and 21st with my bike. Another guy on a bike pulled up and told me he was from out of town and needed directions to Trader Joe’s. He wasn’t completely off the road, but his tires were touching the curb.
A late-30’s to mid-40’s African American man in an Infinity M35X, Pa Plates KME 2770 starts honking at us from the red light half a block back, then comes speeding up, slams on the breaks, and starts screaming at us to get off the f’ing road, get to the f’ing bike lanes, etc. When I calmly explained that: 1. dude was just momentarily stopped to ask for directions; and 2. bikes are allowed to be on the road, he started to flip out, yelling “you guys think you’re f’ing tough guys, we’ll see how tough you are.” Then he threatened/pretended to call his friends, presumably to teach us whatever lesson we were meant to learn. Eventually he sped off, telling my new friend he would “find him.”
Nice welcome to an out of town cyclist. I apologized on behalf of our city, finished my directions (which included getting off Liberty asap), and gave him my number in case he got attacked later and needed me to fill out a police report.
Watch out for this lunatic:
He’s nuts!!! Last week i was crossing the 62nd st bridge toward Sharpsburg and some dude in a suv guns it to pass me on the off ramp. 6 inch pass, I was up against the barrier. Veteran license plate. When I caught up to him at the stop sign he rolled down his window and it smelled like weed. Ugh.
He was probably stoned on the cannabis and should not have been driving a 2000+ pound steel tank that can do a lot of damage.
I haven’t posted on here in a long time. However, this weekend I had an incident downtown that has prompted me to post in this thread. I was cycling up Blvd. of the Allies Saturday around mid-day. Some low life scum in a black BMW with the lame vanity tag of “Raize It” came blaring up behind me. He sped around me within feet. He wound down his window and started yelling about how I didn’t belong in the road and typical Boomer Yinzer shit. He turned onto Smithfield and I followed. He got out of his car and approached me like he was some hardass and kept harassing me. I broke my helmet cam and haven’t worn one in a while. This is the typical shit people won’t do if you are wearing one.
If you see a BMW with a lame vanity plate of “Raize It” please watch out. There is a low life scum bag behind the wheel who doesn’t care who he may run over and he is super tough behind the wheel of his automobile, but when he approaches you he is a sad sorry excuse of a old typical yinzer.
- This reply was modified 1 year, 7 months ago by ShooFlyPie.
He sounds like he fancies himself the most important person in the world.
I don’t know where to put this, but this is remotely related to this thread.
Blog post about thread-the-needle passes, with front and rear video.
As I said in another thread, this driver was impatient and inconsiderate, also a leadfoot, but he passed you safely. Watch my videos, that fourth car (at about 1:20) especially. Left tires right of the center line.
- This reply was modified 1 year, 6 months ago by paulheckbert. Reason: extraneous quote removed from Stu's blog URL
The bus’s headsign said Ross Garage, not the name of a route. That suggests the bus broke down and is waiting for a tow, and is not illegally parked.
I’ll go with Steven’s summary. There is an approved layover point on Penn just past 9th St, only a few hundred feet ahead. Ross Division would indicate this had been a 91 Butler, which at that point on Penn would be still in service. All other Ross routes in that area lay over on the East Busway. So this looks very much unplanned.
First name: Paul
Last name: Heckbert
Route Number: 61B
Date of Incident: 10/04/18
Time of Incident: 07:14 PM
Where you boarded [I didn’t board]: Forbes in Frick Park
Bus Number: 3314
Operator Number: xxxx
Comments: I was biking east on Forbes Ave in Frick Park, biking at the left edge of the bike lane because I was dodging debris there. The 61B bus, a two-segment articulated bus, buzzed me, passing me with only about 2 feet of clearance! This is a violation of Pennsylvania Vehicle Code, which requires drivers to give cyclists at least four feet of clearance. I believe the left car lane was vacant, so the bus driver could have moved left in order to obey the law and drive safely. Even if the passing lane had not been vacant, the law requires drivers passing cyclists to slow and wait until they can pass safely and legally. Your bus driver did not do that. This bus driver deserves a suspension for breaking the law and endangering my life!
I get where you are coming from, and getting buzzed can certainly make your heart skip a beat. Especially if it’s from a massive bus. Even at 4 feet, the air they push around when they move can be quite a force. I’ve personally been knocked over by a such a gust in the past. But unfortunately even I found the official complaint you filed comes off as whiny.
This reply is not intended to knock you down. Just I know from experience that messages like that usually get brushed aside and aren’t given a second thought. I know it feels good to vent. But when you attack the offending party with vitriol and righteous indignation, they usually just blow you off. You are better off if you approach future situations professionally, politely, and actually with less specific information. More like, “…I had a rather disturbing encounter with the xx bus this morning during my morning commute that I feel needs to be addressed. The encounter occured around x:xx AM along xx road. The issue is a serious matter a public safety and may warrant an internal investigaton. Please contact me at xxxx so that I may convey specific details of the encounter and express my concerns.”
I hope this helps.
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I’ve found that PAAC doesn’t respond to 99 percent of these complaints. A better way is to Tweet @ port authority and add the CEO to the tweet. She’s very active on Twitter. This comes from someone (me) who was almost run down by a bus making a left turn onto liberty while I was legally in the cross walk and crossing on walk. The driver didn’t care and proceeded to scream at me for legally crossing the street. When I filled out the online form… Crickets.
Now that I see the CEOs response to complaints on Twitter, I figure next time I have a near death experience with a bus I’ll tweet it plus a pic.
Today I wasn’t going to be the victim of a dangerous drive, but another car coming the other direction.
I was travelling on Delafield toward Aspinwall, going 20 mph in a 25 zone, over to the right. Behind me a red Honda Element with a “I love my Toaster” window sticker decided it had to get to the line of cars at the stop sign at the intersection of Route 28 ramps/4th Avenue/Delafield 3 seconds faster so did a WIDE pass around me. the man driving said toaster was chatting on his cell and took the other lane, fully, right as a car got off the 28 off ramp going the other direction. to avoid a head on collision said toaster, who was going more like 35-40 mph, had to swerve back into the proper lane.
If they would have collided it would have been a shit show. I’m sure I would have been hit by shrapnel.
I’ve been hit twice in the last month biking in the bike lane on Friendship Ave toward downtown by clueless cars turning onto and off South Mathilda. Most recently this happened this morning.
Additionally, I was biking down Penn Avenue towards the Strip District about a month ago when the car behind me laid on his horn the entire way down the hill (note: I was keeping up with the car in front of me, so I was causing zero delay in traffic). When I got to the light, he sped around me, threw open his door and came up screaming that he was going to kill me, beat my ass, run me off the road, etc. He was screaming so close to my face his head was hitting mine. I’m a smallish 5’3 120lb female, and he was an overweight white guy in his forties. I was genuinely terrified and speechless. I got to work and was shaking and crying. He was driving a white SUV that was pretty beat up and had a woman in the front seat. I got his license plate and called the police, who told me “he was probably just having a bad day” and they weren’t going to do anything about it. I’m a lawyer and my brother is a cop, so I know this to be total bs. I called the number BikePgh recommends you report people to, but I doubt anything came of it. Are there resources for dealing with these people? Has anyone had success?
Sorry you had this experience, and I’m sorry that the cop told you that, too.
A few options. I’m not sure how much they work, but…
1) Get a camera and mount it to your bike handlebars and roll tape when you ride.
2) Call back whatever zone that is and ask to talk to whoever is up the chain from the person who told you that they weren’t going to do anything about it. And mention that you are a lawyer.
3) Call a city councilperson for whatever district that is (or, if you live in the city, your personal council person) and see if they can put pressure on the police to take a report.
4) sorry that happened!
Holy hell, yes, get a decent front camera and a way to mount it. (I use a chest strap.) If you can swing it, also get a rear camera, and a couple-terabyte external drive to dump your video to for later processing.
When the guy on Perrysville Ave jumped out of his car and threw me off my bike a couple years ago, all I had to say was “Video!” and he backed off right away.
I still don’t understand the psychology behind the “I’m so fucking pissed at this cyclist holding me up that I’m going to spend 20x more in lost time getting out of my car and physically threatening said biker.”
It logically makes no sense. But I guess narcissistic assholes don’t run on logic. (Insert President orange bloviator comment here)
So we’ve been in touch with one of the developers of the How’s My Driving App. He’s coming to town on Monday to discuss the app. The goal is to see if this would be as useful a tool here in Pittsburgh as it is in DC before we put any energy behind it.
Figured people who are following this thread may be interested, so you’re invited! Please read the following and if interested, just take a sec to RSVP on the link below.
Title: “How’s My Driving” App Demonstration and Discussion
Tired of cars parked in the bike lanes and blocking crosswalks? Want a place to record and log a dangerous driver or near miss experience?
It’s time to take Street Safety into our own hands
Enter the How’s My Driving app. A new street safety tool designed to harness the collective power of pedestrians and cyclists by facilitating quick and easy reporting of oftentime momentary–yet dangerous–driving infractions, like parking in a bike lane, blocking a crosswalk, or an Autonomous Vehicle gone rogue. The app’s ultimate goals will be to aid targeted enforcement of Pittsburgh’s most dangerous drivers and help defend these dedicated spaces for our most vulnerable road users.
Recently launched in DC, the app has already brought significant attention to the safety issues that pedestrians and bicyclists face, even while it’s still in beta test. In just 5 months, 1,200 users have generated close to 10,000 submissions associated with vehicles that have over $2.5 million in outstanding citations in DC – you can check out the real time interactive map here.
How’s My Driving App Co-founder Mark Sussman will be in town on July 15th and we’d like to invite you to hear his presentation and see if this would be a useful tool here in Pittsburgh.
Date: Monday, July 15, 6-8pm, Healthy Ride Office, 3328 Penn Ave, Lawrenceville.
Please CLICK HERE to RSVP so we know how many to expect.
Before the meeting, please check out these 3 app resources:
- Watch the Two Minute Demo Video
- Read Smart Cities Dive profile of the app, which captures both user sentiment and ultimate goals for the app.
- Explore the Data Protected Bike Lanes Project, a demonstration in which over 70 DC bike advocates used the app to record nearly 700 bike lanes blockages during one day’s AM/PM rush hour in one day!
City of Pittsburgh driver in City of Pittsburgh van PWWH1 pulling out of business driveway on Wabash St in West End yelling at me and calling me an asshole for not stopping while riding down Wabash Street to let him pull out, 09/18/19 ~9:00 AM. I guess, he’s not aware that I have the right of way when proceeding straight on a road.
Haven’t read this thread in a while. I can’t post every bad experience I ever have or it would be just me ranting and raving. That sounds terrible what Bikerjess went through. There is absolutely no excuse to get out of a car and threaten violence, but to a much smaller female? What a loser. I hope she puts pressure on the police because they don’t care unless personal property is damaged or you go to the hospital. That is what I learned. When I was purposely hit on Liberty avenue I had to go to the commander and wrote an email about how I had witnesses, a plate number, a police report, and how offended I was as a tax payer of this city that they wouldn’t do anything about it. Remember, they work for us.
As for zzwergel on Greenfield ave. This is a few blocks from where I live. I take the lane, no matter what. I find it harder going the other way as you don’t have as much speed and momentum from going down slope. However, where the road splits I have been hit almost TWICE now in this same week. Monday I am signaling that I was making a left and somebody at the stop sign ignored me and I had to swerve out of the way. Yesterday the exact same damn thing happened again. Thinking of adding a sign at the bottom of the stop sign that they have to stop for cylists too coming down Greenfield avenue.
- This reply was modified 6 months, 2 weeks ago by ShooFlyPie. Reason: I have the spelling of a Trump supporter
Riding to work this morning through Oakland on 5th Avenue around 8:10, traffic is heavy, and pretty slow so with a bit of effort a cyclist can fit right in to traffic flow. I was in a middle lane as the buses were stop and go on the right when a blue sedan passes me on my left and yells something I can’t understand, then cuts in front of me into a small space which quickly slows as traffic dictates. I pass him on the right and inquire what he said. “Get in the fucking bike lane, you ass hole” is his reply.
I ponder this for less than a second, and say “there is no bike lane here, get on the highway!” He ran the next red light, so I was not quite able to catch him in uptown to continue our conversation.
Get in the habit of yelling out the plate number. It helps to remember it for later, and if the driver does hear it, s/he may realize their non-anonymity.
For the rest of us, record that number somewhere (I use Twitter), so that if any of the rest of us have an incident with that same driver later, there will be a prior history which can be helpful if pressing charges.
Cyclist killed by a car on Route 30 near Laurel Summit, east of Ligonier and Laughlintown.
3020 there will be a memorial ride for Jason Zollinger, the cyclist killed by a car near Laurel Summit.
Article says that Zollinger was wearing a helmet. It does not say if the car driver was speeding.
The article states Memorial Ride for Jason is Sunday October 20… 10/20…twenty.
<p style=”text-align: left;”>At 1:00 pm. Three mile ride from Laurel Mountain Ski Resort Lodge in Ligonier Township.</p>
Laurel Mountain Ski Resort
Boswell, PA 15531
If you were nearly struck by a car while cycling or walking, report it to @pgh311.
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