Dangerous drivers thread

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chrishent
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There’s a poll on PG today asking, “Do you typically follow the speed limit?” Of 5,101 people polled so far, the results are as follows:

70% answered “Yes”
26% “Ha, no, not at all”
4% “I don’t drive”

The last option, of course, assumes only drivers can exceed the speed limit. And my guess is that a good chunk of that 70% isn’t aware of what the real speed limits are on city streets


edmonds59
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70% is a big steaming pile of mendacious bull-pucky.


jonawebb
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I am always impressed, during the all-neighborhoods ride, when we cross the Glenwood Bridge. 25 mph speed limit. I would be amazed if one car in 100 was going that slow. The wide lanes invite speeds of 50 mph+. Because that way you get to Hazelwood that much faster.


The Iguana
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It’s the Scotch Bottoms they’re after….


atown
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WillB
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Nice video. Coming to a stop at a red light and having a car fly past through the red is so common that I almost don’t notice it anymore. I’ve always been ambivalent about traffic cameras (they’re a little too Big Brother-y), but at this point I think I’m ready. People just really don’t give a damn about the traffic laws in this city, and they’re not going to until we start ticketing consistently.


Marko82
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^^ very nice. Now get on the sidewalk!


gg
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Some crazy lady in a newer VW bug, yellow with some numbers in black on the side and she was at first parked in front of Winchester Thurston and then passed me very close on Ellsworth. I caught her and passed her at the red light which I did stop at and then proceeded through the light going quite fast down that hill toward Negley. I would have caught her again, but she frantically took a right on red. I went after her a little bit, but she had clear sailing, so I went back to Ellsworth. I think there was something wrong with this woman, so be careful. She has a very distinct car with those black numbers, so I will probably see her again and maybe have some fun. She can stick it! Interestingly I went on Google Maps and there is a yellow bug without the black numbers on it in front of the school and on the rear it has a temp tag on it. Hmmmm, maybe she is there often. I won’t forget that car. :)


StuInMcCandless
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After this afternoon’s thunderstorm, I encountered a dark traffic light at the five-way corner of Perrysville and Vinceton. I staked out a spot a safe distance away and watched the festivities.

For those unfamiliar, Vinceton and Bascom meet at almost a right angle whose point is at Perrysville. Another leg of Vinceton runs off to the east. The two legs headed west have a steep drop-off, and Perrysville itself is on a pretty good slope, north/outbound being uphill. All segments are posted 25, though south/inbound has just dropped from 35.

Overall, about 7 in 10 cars stopped, correctly treating it as a four (OK, five) way stop. Nearly everyone coming up Bascom or Vinceton waited, as sight lines are bad, and I suspect they were justifiably worried about traffic on Perrysville.

…as worried they should be. While inbound P’ville traffic turning onto Bascom or Vinceton came to a complete stop, almost without exception, drivers on Perrysville itself checked in at 25+ mph through the light at least half the time. Chances of this were higher if the driver was operating a pickup truck.

In 15 minutes of watching, I must have seen 30 cars blow that light, fewer than half even trying to slow down. About 1 in 10 were going 35+.

Soooo, about them bikes at stop signs….


Jason-PGH
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Pedestrian Related Dangerous Driver:
Plate ETB-3741

Around 8:00, I was in my car heading down Friendship Avenue going to continue straight through South Negley Avenue. There was one car ahead of me, the plate number I listed above, it was a black, “rich type” car (BMW, Audi, etc.)

A pedestrian was about 3/4 of the way through the intersection when the car sped up as if it was about to hit him, then slowed down, then sped up again before he cleared, as if to intentionally hit him.

I have seen this driver around before. He was involved with me in a close pass on Negley Avenue a couple weeks ago.


StuInMcCandless
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Spent several days commuting by motorcycle, five or six trips in and out of the city. I am simply amazed at how rampant speeding is. I just got behind a line of cars and followed them:
* 41 mph on Perrysville Ave (posted 25)
* 57 mph on outbound East Street (posted 35)
* 61 mph on parts of McKnight Rd (posted 40)
* 51 mph on inbound Liberty through the Strip (35)
* 34 mph on inbound Butler between 40th and 34th (25)
* 48 mph in the right lane of the 16th St bridge, and was passed in the left (25)

Is it any wonder many cyclists are scared to ride on the road?

Is it any wonder cyclists are being honked at by motorists because we’re supposedly holding up traffic?

Does anyone even fucking care about obeying the law? Or enforcing it?


look out
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Yes, and you see why, as I had mentioned before some time ago, I ride like I do. There are way too many idiots out there in cages, doing everything BUT driving. I agree that there are very few out there, who do obey the speed limit. I live in the Oakland area, so I see quite a bit of bad driving. It pisses me off, when going through a school zone, very few go below or at 15. Vehicles should be crawling through. I saw a cop car, approaching a school zone, puts on lights and siren, just until the end of the zone. now it could have been the call was cancelled, but I doubt that. Many times, I have seen them blow through red lights, for the sake of not sitting there in traffic.
PAT buses are notorious for breaking traffic laws…remember the two buses that raced, and one went over the hill? Good to know they are being charged!
Riders, just be aware of your surroundings, and that goes for the dumbass bikers that also break the laws..(of common sense , etc.)
Good day, folks!


RustyRed
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Distracted driving: *the_cops_don’t_care*.

I was refusing to move and yelling at a driver to “Put down the phone!” after she nearly left-hooked me and a officer gave ME crap for blocking traffic.
Seriously, this is BS.

put_the_phone_down


ShooFlyPie
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One time coming up Greenfield ave a SUV was passing very close. I stuck my arm out to signal to move over and give me a room. A cop was behind her. He started yelling at me that I was trying to hit her car. I said I am signaling she should give me 4 feet, and maybe if you knew the law as you should for your job you would give her a ticket. He said she gave me plenty of room. I asked, “Oh, my arm is 4 feet? You must not know math too well either. No wonder all you could do is become a cop.”

The waste of tax money didn’t like that too much. Be a smart ass back. You have every right to tell that thug who is working on our tax dollar what you think, especially if you have a camera rolling.


Marko82
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You could send the video to the chief as an anniversary present. Good will n’at.


chrishent
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Well, aren’t cops themselves distracted drivers, what with that onboard laptop that they are constantly looking at? So of course they don’t care about that stuff


jonawebb
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@SFP, I’m guessing you’re white.


Mick
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@atown
How much driving does that represent?

Seems to be pretty good fuel for the “cars-should-not-be-allowed-to-be-on-the-road-until-they-can-follow-the-rules” argument.

If your video is clear enough to get the bus number and the date-time is recorded, that should be submitted to PAT. (Perhaps Stu can tell you how it can most effectively be used?)


njpearce412
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I got right-hooked and nearly collided with a burgundy Toyota Camry/Corolla while biking home from work on the newly installed Bigelow/O’hara/Bayard lane outbound. This happened at the intersection of Bigelow and Tennyson. The driver must have saved so much time to speed around me and almost crush me. To top it all off, she gave me the finger too.


J Z
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I should probably reevaluate my Friday night rides through Central Oakland. Riding on Bouquet towards Bates and making the right up the hill on to Bates, guy in a dark sedan (Kia maybe?) honks, then as I’m climbing up Bates, rides up next to me and starts to squeeze me into the parked cars, he pulls up, then brake checks me. Whole time I haven’t reacted, no finger, no yelling, nothing…mostly because I’m shocked at how aggro this guy is for no apparent reason. Regretfully, didn’t get the plate, but he had a magnet on the left side of the plate that was of the profile of a hawk that looked like the Iowa Hawkeye symbol with the letters “IC” in it.

This guy had much hate for life, hope no one runs across him.


buffalo buffalo
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anybody got a contact at the postal service, or know how to report drivers to them? Not seeing anything on USPS.com relating to reporting drivers other than for problems actually receiving mail…

I was standing on southbound Craig Street, waiting for the light to change to cross Fifth Avenue, when USPS van 1520432 passed on my right, with about a foot and a half of clearance.  The driver seemed likely to pass right through the light until I called out something about there being a No Turn on Red sign.

The driver stuck his head out the window and asked what I’d said, so I repeated myself

“There’s a No Turn on Red sign.”

“So?”

“So, you’re supposed to stop at the white line.”

“When you get a license, you can tell me what to do.”

I said the vehicle number was on the back of the truck and I would be reporting it, to which he said “Go right ahead.  Tell them my name is Leroy Brown.”


StuInMcCandless
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GSA, not USPS, but I’m curious to see what happens if you report through them.
http://www.gsa.gov/portal/content/103238


jonawebb
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From USPS.com: “If you observe any unsafe driving by a Postal Service contractor or employee, report it immediately to the facility manager.”

Couldn’t find “facility manager” but there’s this:

John Phelan
District Manager
Western Pennsylvania
1001 California Ave.,
Rm 2001
Pittsburgh, PA 15290-9996
(412) 359-7771
(412) 321-3373 (FAX)


Jason-PGH
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Two unsafe drivers in the same block! Coming up N. Euclid Avenue, I noted two drivers had turned behind me just after I got past Stanton Avenue. For those that don’t ride this road, it is narrow at this point, with cars parked on both sides. 4′ would not be possible in this situation, so I was going to keep pushing pretty hard (20mph) and wait for an opening so I could pull over and let them pass.

Then, one of the drivers decides, with less than 10′ until a stop sign, to try and pass me. I waved him off and he backed off, waiting until it was clear to pass.

Then, a very aggressive black truck, Ford, PA plates, started revving and passed me with about 5′ until a stop sign. He then turned and yelled that I should be on the sidewalk. I informed him he was wrong and that he should learn to drive. Didn’t even hear me, and he continued off.

I’ll make it known that I was taking the lane in this situation, fairly aggressively, both drivers, when passing in an unsafe spot, ventured way into the opposing traffic lane to pass.

I have always like Euclid Avenue as a way to get to the Highland Park/Morningside area. It’s generally very calm and flat with minimal traffic and lots of stop signs to slow drivers down. This was unusual.


StuInMcCandless
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Remember the fellow who’s riding a NYC CitiBike across the country? He’s in Oklahoma now. While standing beside the road, some guy, without provocation, jumped out of his truck and attacked him. Later arrested and jailed, but wow.
[link]


Vannevar
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(The police have arrested the perpetrator, who tried to kill two other people as well). I’m pleased that his introduction to the police seems unaffected by his taking the CitiBike on a long ride without explicit permission.


paulheckbert
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Bogotá, Colombia changed driver behavior using mimes


J Z
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gg
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Well an SUV (what else is new) is the vehicle that first stuck the person and then it went from there.


StuInMcCandless
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Hey, I’m invincible! I can drive in a steady downpour going 80! Watch this!

For the record, I was on motorcycle on the HOV lane, where I can usually toodle along at a sensible 45 to 50. On a wet day, I prefer closer to 45. I had to accelerate to 65 so as not to get rear-ended. Then watch as he flies past and is soon out of sight.

Video


edmonds59
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^ My guess would be it’s a cop. They are gifted with super-invincibility.


buffalo buffalo
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JGC 6929, pewter colored SUV, Japanese make (Nissan?), white female driver. Loud, nasty horn shortly after turning onto Centre from Millvale, then a dangerous, high speed pass in the opposite lane. (At least she gave a wide berth, I suppose…)


Swalfoort
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I am really angry at the woman in the shiny black sedan who felt it necessary to turn left from Grant to Seventh (almost) into a crosswalk full of pedestrians crossing on the walk sign. She had the audacity to HONK at the pedestrians, who where crossing legally, but were slowing her progress. Fortunately, she stopped short of the actual crosswalk.


buffalo buffalo
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Complaint filed with Port Authority:

I was riding northbound on Allegheny Commons East at about 1:10pm (Sunday, 11/1) in the right hand lane (the outer two being occupied by parking, only the inner two lanes were open) when the outbound 16, vehicle #5208, drove past giving me about two feet passing distance at first, then getting ever closer as he apparently decided to change lanes into the one I was already riding in while in the middle of making the turn into Commons North. Fortunately, I believe, for me, someone was trying to park in front of MLK School, so the bus driver was forced to return to the left lane before he actually hit me.

Somewhat later, I witnessed similar behavior from the same driver–I happened to be behind the same bus, red Gillig #5208, on California Avenue through Avalon, and watched the bus cross the centerline through each of the curves, at multiple points driving entirely in the oncoming lane.


Ahlir
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Near (a) corner of Beechwood and Monitor.
Driver cuts close in front of bike to park car.
biker: “be more careful”
driver: “stop if you want to talk to me … coward!” [as I keep moving]

That’s “Ohio FEW 9942”, youngish white man of slight build.


chrishent
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To the phone-looking driver that cut me off to turn right onto Centre Ave from the left lane at the intersection Sixth Ave and Centre, immediately after I helped one of her passengers who had asked me for directions: For real?


RustyRed
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BMW EVL-2353
Old guy with thick European accent.
Laid on horn behind cyclists in right lane on Penn Ave in the Strip near 18th street, yells as he’s passing in the left lane and then quickly cuts in front of us after he passes.

evl2353

evl2353driver

When confronted five seconds later at the red light at 17th street, the driver tries to punch cyclist through window, gets out and tries to yank bike away from cyclist.

evl2353bikegrab

Hopefully the talking to he got from police officers will prevent him from doing that in the future.

evl2353police


J Z
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^ wtf.


mjacobPGH
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I stopped on my ride due to this and was actually coming here to post asking about this. The cyclist in the picture said everything was cool so I continued on. What did the police actually say to him? Regardless, good to know nothing more serious came of it.


RustyRed
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“What did the police actually say to him? ”

The police said they couldn’t charge him with anything, but as I rode off I heard them saying to him: “They have a right to be there, you can’t go around scaring the hell out of cyclists.”

The number of cyclists (and motorists) showing concern was overwhelming, thanks to everyone who stopped to see if we were OK.

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