Dedicated bike lanes on Warhol, Clemente & Murray county bridges?

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sew
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I rode over the Clemente bridge this weekend. Meh. I have never had trouble riding over it before without the bike lanes(though I am glad that they fixed the bump on the North Shore side). Sharrows would have been just fine.


stefb
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All of the trash from the home opener turned the bike lanes on the bridge into trash lanes. I went through around 630pm. In fact, there was a lot of trash on federal and around PNC


RustyRed
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Pirates upper management is really excited about the bike lanes on Clemente.

Did we ever find out whose wonderful idea it was to make the bike lane markings Roberto-themed?

(EDIT: I just put in a query in to Public Works about the #21 lane markings, hopefully they’ll get back to me)


StuInMcCandless
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Positives:
* I biked the Clemente inbound lane around 9:30 this morning, and there was no trash.

* There was nobody parked in the Sixth Street inbound bike lane down to Penn Ave.

Negatives:
* At both Ft Duquesne Blvd and Penn Ave, I had to deal with a vehicle turning right.

* The Federal Street bike lane by PNC Park is a DZBL. I will refuse to use it. Either make that a no-parking area (and enforce it), or remove the paint.

Maybe we didn’t know any better about DZBLs in 2007, but there is no excuse for putting any in now.


RustyRed
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“* There was nobody parked in the Sixth Street inbound bike lane down to Penn Ave.”

I ‘only’ saw a huge ice delivery truck there at 12:20PM, taking up the whole bike lane and some of the shared lane.


Benzo
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Rode these today, totally clear of trash and debris. Very nice.


Marko82
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Five cars and a box truck were parked in the 6th street bikelane at 8:40 pm. I took pics and sent in a 311 request to have that block better patrolled.

As I was taking pics of the first two cars one of the drivers came over and I told him he couldnt park there. He looked at me confused. Then a woman in uniform came over from the hotel and started apologizing and asking if they were going to get ticketed-I think she thought I was a bike cop since I had a reflective vest on. She said the drivers didnt speak English and she would tell their boss to write a note telling them in their language (Napal?).


Jason-PGH
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Maybe we should all start wearing reflective vests, if that’s the kind of response we’ll get.


RustyRed
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I get mistaken for being a PEO frequently. Wearing a yellow reflective vest and just a hi-viz pink/yellow jersey. (seriously, pink cops?)
Maybe they think the P on my helmet is for “POLICE”?


edmonds59
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Red if you get mistaken for the law you should go with it! Get some printed tablets printed up that say “YOU are an a**hole”.


smarchit
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My takeaway from yesterday’s ride: check the Pirates’ promotional schedule before planning a trip across the Clemente bike lanes. When I came through early afternoon, the entire bridge, including bike lanes, was shut down to set up for the evening’s fireworks promotion. The only passable route was the upstream sidewalk. It was pretty busy when I went through around 1:30, so I can only imagine the increase closer to gametime.


Benzo
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they have to close the bridge to all users for fireworks, at least close to the time the fireworks are going to happen, for safety reasons to keep you far enough away from the blast area of the fireworks. Seems like common practice.

They also close down sections of the riverfront trails on either side of the river between the point and the 6th st bridge and in front of PNC park.


smarchit
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Yeah, makes sense. Just something that wasn’t on my radar.


neilmd
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Came across the Clemente bridge in the bike lane today – there was a little glass at one point but it was otherwise in great shape. The bike lane on 6th was totally filled with parked cars.


ROMO
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What are the chances that they’ll put up bollards if people keep parking in the bike lane? If they don’t ticket/tow consistently, that is really the only thing that will keep it open.


Marko82
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Re: 6th street bike lane. This guy seems to be a habitual offender

It’s probably just a coincidence that there is a pizza joint across the street named Giovannis’.


chrishent
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How is this enforced in other areas of the city with similar bike lanes to the one on 6th (next to the curb, no parking, no bollards)? The lack of free parking options downtown certainly makes this block attractive for drivers, particularly if they notice that the “no parking” designation isn’t being enforced at all.

I would not be surprised if the businesses on this block offered “incentives” to parking officers and cops for them not to enforce this block. There’s always been illegal parking here and the bike lane was not going to make that go away immediately.


Ahlir
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Just to be difficult:
Yes, it’s annoying that cars use “our” lanes. But it’s easy enough to take the lane. If it’s such a big issue the cops will start tagging the parked cars, just to make transiting drivers happy.


chrishent
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@ahlir, I have no problem with taking the lane. This street was not problematic for riding before the bike lane was painted on and it isn’t now either, regardless of if cars are parked on the bike lane or not. I would simply like for drivers to respect the numerous “no parking” signs. Unfortunately, it seems that for this to happen, it will require continuous targeted enforcement on this block.


Ahlir
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continuous targeted enforcement
Exactly.

Cyclists are entitled to the same level of service as other members of society. Oh, wait…


rainbow dog
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Re: 6th street bike lane. This guy seems to be a habitual offender

Those fogged license plate covers piss me off big time. It’s like saying – I am above the law, or I can violate traffic laws and maybe not get caught.

What pisses me off even more is that nothing is being done about them. I am sure if people were being ticketed for these the word would spread and they’d be gone. This is one offense that doesn’t require any special tests like radar, breathalyzer etc. I rarely drive, and I had a cop car behind me at least three times this past month. How do these people not get pulled over?

End of rant.


Benzo
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Pittsburgh could adopt the towit app to allow people to report illegal parking for enforcement. I think this would be better than asking folks to call 911 to report these issues.

“With Toronto mayor John Tory declaring traffic congestion Public Enemy Number 1, a local app developer has been inspired to help. Michael McArthur, along with business partner Gregory Meloche and a small group of developers, has created Towit, which harnesses crowdsourcing to point out illegally parked cars to the authorities.”

“People are frustrated and want to solve this problem. Like cyclists that are mad at people parking in bike lanes, those are pissed off people that actually don’t need any more incentive than ‘I am going to do this, I am going to report this person, and hopefully he will never do this again,’ ” he says. “That’s all it takes. And we have hundreds of interested people already.”

Article about it in toronto
http://www.thestar.com/business/2015/01/19/towit-pitches-a-digital-solution-to-illegal-parking.html

App website:
https://towit.io/


StuInMcCandless
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Related to the thread, though not the last couple of posts:

Whose brilliant idea was it to install a DZBL just before the bridge?

I refuse to use it. The fact that a large truck is hanging out into that lane is relevant, but not the point. It just isn’t safe to be in this.


Vannevar
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@benzo, I wonder if we couldn’t go further and use the Uber-share model. Meaning, if somebody reports an illegally parked vehicle using TowIt or whatever, it goes onto a public web-served list.

Any tow-truck operator that wants to go out and tow it is authorized to do so, at their normal fee for illegally parked cars.

That way, there’s no agency budget, no friction between citizens and the PoPo, and the violaters bear the economic impact of their bad decision making.

You’d think that a few tow-truck operators might start cruising the hot-zones with their apps, waiting for an opportunity.


htric
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that would be awesome, but there would need to be a system in place to tell people who has their car. traditionally if a private company tows from a private lot their info is often posted. Without that info how will someone retrieve their car?


Steven
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The no-parking signs could include a central number to call where you punch in your license plate. If it’s an Uber-like system, it will know which towing company picked it up, and when.

But I’m guessing it would require changes to the law at the state and local levels.


RustyRed
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“Roberto Cle­mente Bridge to close for a week
May 11, 2015 12:53 AM

The Roberto Cle­mente Bridge will close for about a week start­ing this morn­ing, Al­le­gheny County an­nounced.

The bridge will close to ve­hi­cles and bi­cy­cles at 9 a.m. for re­place­ment of an ex­pan­sion dam and is sched­uled to re­open by 6 a.m. next Mon­day. It will re­main open for pe­des­tri­ans.”


StuInMcCandless
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Because of unrelated construction work up by Allegheny Center, I haven’t been able to get onto Federal Street to cross the Clemente Bridge in a few days anyhow. I just have to remember to continue doing what I’m doing already if that project wraps up before this other one starts.


chrishent
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I wonder which expansion dam they are replacing: the one on the south end, with the teeth that was plated over on the bike lanes, or the one on the north end, which had some work earlier this year. More likely the former?


johnnyb
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Any plans for a protected lane on the Birmingham Bridge with the new construction? I noticed the former off-ramp that leads onto Forbes Avenue was being reconfigured. That would be perfect connection via the Bridge into Oakland if it were made into a protected lane.


Marko82
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@johnnyb. A bunch of us went to the public meeting concerning the Birmingham bridge project. They wouldnt even consider adding a crosswalk on the southside end – “there’s no money for that” – this on a $20M project!
This is yet another in a long list of great lost opportunities being performed with your tax money by PennDot.


Jason-PGH
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Adds to the, “we don’t have money to put in or replace sidewalks” statement made by PennDOT regarding the Bigelow Blvd. construction


paulheckbert
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Friday, 6pm. Giovanni’s Pizza delivery car parked in protected bike lane (hazard lights flashing), 6th St between Fort Duquesne Blvd and Penn Ave. PA license plate JKM 8460.
Giovanni’s restaurant is on our left. I went inside and told the cashier there was a Giovanni’s car parked in the bike lane. She was immediately apologetic and quickly found the driver and told him to move the car, and he did.
That was a pretty good response, I thought. It didn’t appear there were any parking spaces open in front of their business. We’ll see if they are repeat offenders or not.


paulheckbert
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Aha. Previous bike lane blockage by Giovanni’s vehicles:

2015/4/26 car on 6th St lane (pre-bollard). Marko declared them a “habitual offender” at that time.
http://bikepgh.org/mb/topic/dedicated-bike-lanes-on-clemente-murray-county-bridges/page/3/#post-311376

2015/9/25 autopod broken down in Penn Ave lane.
https://bikepgh.org/mb/topic/green-electric-rickshaws/#post-317964


chrishent
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Giovanni’s doesn’t give a shit. They are largely the reason why the 6th St bike lane got bollards. If I recall correctly, the original plan for this lane didn’t call for bollards to be put up. It was bollard-less for about a month, during which time drivers kept parking on it with impunity, and many of them were delivery drivers for Giovanni’s. Even before the bike lane was put in, a good chunk of this curb was a “No parking” zone. Guess who didn’t care?

So perhaps we should thank them for being assholes and forcing the City to install bollards.


Jason-PGH
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They are habitual offenders. I think I’ll be buying some, “I Parked in a Bike Lane” stickers just for them.


stefb
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Please get those stickers made. Please please please. I brought them up while riding past people parked in the bike lane on Ellsworth.


paulheckbert
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Three inch, round green stickers, “I parked in a bike lane”, $5 for 20. http://iparkedinabikelane.bigcartel.com/product/i-parked-in-a-bike-lane-sticker

11×3 inch bumper sticker, “I park in bike lanes.” $4.20 for 1. http://www.zazzle.com/i_park_in_bike_lanes_bumper_sticker_car_bumper_sticker-128464949138562538


helen s
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After looking at some of the other zazzle.com bumper stickers, I am not sure they take that statement the same way that a cyclist might.

However I am pretty sure some people would rather not give them any business.


salty
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Every single time (not even exaggerating) I’ve been on 40th St. at night, the same white truck has been parked in the bike lane. Why isn’t that person being towed every night until they learn their lesson?

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