Dirty Dozen Training Rides

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reddan
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Wasn’t too cold today, I thought. The only time I really felt chilled was coming down McArdle at the end…the high speed descent, plus a damp wind off the river, made things feel pretty raw.

Next week, we’ll take Sycamore again, then over to Canton and Boustead, and back via some random route over Mt Washington. Maybe throw in Welsh or something, too, depending on how people feel.


Greasefoot
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Sorry I missed this today, I’m waiting for a part in the mail. When my shoe was eaten by my crank last week I bent a chainring.


rice rocket
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I went out later today @ 12:30 for ~60 miles, temps were about 10 degrees warmer than when I woke up and I was okay, but I gotta figure out something for my hands and feet.

I have Giordana Windproof gloves, and they’re pretty terrible. Yeah, they’re windproof, but they also breathe like a plastic bag. My hands sweated in the first 10 miles, then froze over…my toes…they just froze. I’m going to try some Gore gloves, and some thicker wool socks. Trip to REI tomorrow for me.


mr marvelous
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@ rice rocket REI sells Pearl Izumi gloves that work well for about $60. They also sell cans of “man up” for about $10 :)


salty
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I have rav-x windproof gloves and haven’t had any problems with my hands sweating. I wear them below 40-45 and at 25-30 I add liners.

Feet I haven’t figured out, I wear heavy socks and boots when it gets really cold.


mr marvelous
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Lake sells cycling boot that work well I have used them well below 0 with normal socks. The make them for both road and mountain bike pedals.


Silverscooby27
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@ ricerocket: “man up”? Oh Snap! BTW, you’re still about 30 sec behind up Suffolk! :)

I used some assos summer full finger gloves under PI cyclone gloves and my fingers were fine, although I’m thinking of picking up some assos or PI lobster gloves.


rice rocket
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That’s it, I’m going back tomorrow just to knock you off the top after I go buy my case of man-up. :P

And check your email!


Silverscooby27
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Who’s that ahead of you in your avatar? ;)

(just tryin to get you fired up!, even though I think you’ve beaten me in every race we’ve ever been in together)


mr marvelous
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reddan
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Bumpety-bump.

Tomorrow’s highlights include Canton and Boustead…muhahahaha.


Anonymous #

What day/time/location do you guys leave from? Also, what is the route for this weekend?


reddan
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Sundays for the next two weeks, meeting at the bike rental on the Jail Trail (near Grant St), departing promptly at 10 AM.

This coming week will be Sycamore, Welsh, Barry-Holt-Eleanor, and Flowers-Tesla. The following week will be “start at the first hill, and ride the course until everyone has thrown in the towel.”


Anonymous #

Thanks. I’m in bad shape this year, but it’s worth a shot Sunday to see how it goes.


HiddenVariable
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10 am by triangle bikes?


Marko82
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Ok so I’m wimping out. Gotta practice for being a spectator I guess.


stefb
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Awww marko. You can do it. Don’t wimp out. You are a strong rider


reddan
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@hv: Yep.


flyS564
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I was on my usual 40mileish shorter loop last weekend around North Hills, Allison Park, the city etc and decided to do Berryhill for fun and hit 4 more of these hills on my way home. Rialto missed my map here and I did stop on Logan =| but, I’m no hill pusher so I manned up and did it. http://connect.garmin.com/activity/128438053

I think I can do this DD business in a non competitive way? If I don’t join the training ride this weekend I’ll be out a little earlier. Reddan, on the day of the ride do you ride to the start and then ride back to our parts after or what? That makes it sound like a rather fun day.


reddan
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Given how cramped parking is at the Oval, I highly recommend riding to the start. In my experience, people go their separate ways after Tesla…I usually head directly back to our neck of the woods then.

I may not be able to lead the DD training ride this coming Sunday, but Jim Logan has kindly volunteered to take the reins this week. Same time, same place, same hills.


bikeygirl
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Question!

While I’m not doing the DD, I do plan on attending and watching some of the mayhem -what would people recommend??

(a) Should I bike?

(b) Should I drive? <== that in the idea to maybe offer support if needed.

Do I have to drive to the Oval to start? Or drive to the first hill?

Any advice?


Chris Mayhew
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They probably won’t need support. And honestly there are way way too many cars following the event. And when you drive behind it you go the pace of the slowest rider on the hill.

If you want to spectate just drive to the first hill. Park and walk a bit. Also have an exit plan besides “follow the race” because you’ll never see the next hill.

I would not drive to the start. Again, you’ll get stuck behind everyone unless you leave before they do in which case why bother to go to the start?

If you want to ride that’s fine. Best bet is probably to watch every other hill since you won’t be able to get there faster via bike than the event itself.


mr marvelous
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Like bikeygirl I want to watch, I was hoping there would be shortcuts that could be taken from hill to hill. I figure the race takes a planned out route and I would find a different route to the top of each hill.


bikeygirl
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Thank you Chris, this is very helpful! :)

I’ve seen the DD videos online before and wondered how spectators and cyclists managed to get between every hill, but I guess you have to pick and choose.

No matter, riding it is then for me! See you at the 1st Hill :)

EXCITED!!!!! :D

@Mr Marvelous — If you and anyone else wants to, we can all meet somewhere to follow/spectate the DD as a form of “cheering peloton” , haha!


mr marvelous
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Sounds like a plan


Chris Mayhew
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The route the cyclists take is more or less how you would ride to them. Not saying there’s not another way but for the most part I think it’s about the most direct route between them.

For a car there are way better ways to get from hill to hill.

The cyclist spectators you see are primarily other riders.


rice rocket
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I think I can do this DD business in a non competitive way?

The actual DD ride is pretty slow between hills, everyone waits for the last person to finish before proceeding. From what I gather, the vast majority of the participants are just trying to complete it and not racing up the hills, so if you can do each hill, you should probably just attend.

Also, join up at Strava.com and upload your Garmin data, it’s totally free. Lets you compare your times up these hills to others in the area so you can get a feel for how fast you actually are.


HiddenVariable
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From what I gather, the vast majority of the participants are just trying to complete it and not racing up the hills, so if you can do each hill, you should probably just attend.

i can do each hill. it’s all of them at a time i’m not yet convinced about.


StuInMcCandless
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I inherited a Specialized off-road bike over a year ago and almost never ride it. If I blow the dust off it and lube everything real well, maybe I’ll show up for a training ride or even the DD itself and see how far I get.


bikeygirl
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Thank you Chris again!!

Gotta say, I’m excited to watch!

I’m actually ditching Thanksgiving with my family in California this year to check the DD in person -about time!!

BUT don’t tell my family that’s why I’m not going, ok…. shhhh :)


sarapgh2
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bikeygirl. I’m with you; I’d like to spectate and support my husband who’s riding this year. His training has been curtailed by injury and I think we’ll probably have to pull out halfway through.

If you want to try to drive together to a few choice places or drive/bike DM me or facebook me. (Sara)


steevo
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If I were looking to watch via bike:

Ride across HP bridge and watch first hill.

Turn around and stay on freeport toward town.

cut in and watch second hill from the

bottom…. It would be tough to see Berry

hill in time, so instead, go into sharps

burg and ride/walk up high/seavey. Watch.

and ride up it, follow to Logan in millvale

(you have to go over the hill here or

cross back over to butler st)… After

logan, you could take millvale trail to

Pig hill and watch that.

All pretty flat and probably doable. Might

be tight between logan and pig hill.


John
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Anyone who wants to watch Canton and Boustead, you can pretty much take the T there. Canton is a fan favorite.


stefb
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I am gonna be out of town for this :(


mr marvelous
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@ stefb I was hoping you were participating in it. I think Marko isn’t doing it as well. I guess I’m cheering for Team reddan now.


stefb
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Yes cheer extra hard for me.


reddan
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@mr marv: Thanks, but please cheer for everyone who tackles the ride.

Except the bike jocks up front. They suck. ;-)


HiddenVariable
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still on for tomorrow? i plan to be at the first hill at 10:30. that sound about right?


Swalfoort
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@ Lucia and Sara; I plan to be a spectator as well. Currently deciding between a car and a scooter as my vehicle of choice. Will probably see you at the top of the first hill.

Um, I think that means I need to find a map of the ride – or ar least an ordered list of the hills. Does the order ever change?


reddan
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@sara: On Danny Chew’s DD page, there are sets of directions both for bikes and for driving: http://www.dannychew.com/dd.html

And no, to my knowledge, the order of the hills never changes.

[ETA:] Per Danny:

There were far too many vehicles (DD affiliated) on the route last year – clogging up roads and pissing off local residents.

and

If you want to take photos or cheer on your riders, go way ahead of the pack, park legally somewhere, and wait for the riders to show up. Wait until the entire pack has passed by before you leave, and then perhaps hit every 3rd or 4th hill this way.

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