Greenfield Bridge Demolition/Replacement

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byogman
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Not that the “super sharrows” southbound was ever going to be ideal,  but wasn’t there in the renderings the notion that there’d be green paint to support them and give a more lane-like feel?

Also, not that a downhill lane around the curve on Greenfield Rd. was ever going to be ideal, but is there any way we can get more width on them around sharpest part in the curve?


zzwergel
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@mickmac,

Did they apologize? Also, a more permanent solution should be erected such as steel bollards that can be unlocked and tilted down so that only emergency and road maintenance vehicles (Including snow plows) can have access.


paulheckbert
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When I biked the Greenfield Bridge I was disturbed by what they did to the sidewalk at the corner of Beechwood Blvd and Greenfield Rd, where Bruster’s Ice Cream used to be (how’s that for Pittsburgh directions?).

They put a giant planter box right where you’d expect the sidewalk to continue.

Apparently what they’re trying to do here is induce pedestrians to cross Greenfield Rd to get on the side of the bridge with a sidewalk (the west side). Unfortunately, in the process, they made this intersection more dangerous for cyclists making a right turn here. There’s no option to bike on the sidewalk to make the right turn to get to the bridge’s northbound bike lane. A cyclist could get right-hooked by a car here. The curb cuts are poorly done, also. Here’s a photo at that intersection, looking west.

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The Iguana
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When I drove and biked over the new bridge I was unpleasantly surprised. I expected and efficient, safe, easily navigated roadway. Let me share (see album referenced below):
1. Driving from the park, the triangle-bike-ped-xing icon seems to my reptilian brain pointing in the wrong direction; see 113, 114.
2. Same issue as 1 on the side exiting the bridge to the park; see 131, 132.
3. Driving from the park, the triangle-bike-ped-xing changes to a bike lane; see 115-118. Notice the bikelane is highlighted initially with green and a hash-painted island is created, but is very confusing–note the cars riding into it (think four foot violation)–when I first drove this section I was confused. And I just noticed the left turn arrowed green box…yikes.
4. Directional triangles pointing in the wrong direction (IMHO) in 133 are confusing also.
5. From Beechwood…
a. Bikelane just starts on the sidewalk–no lead in; see 120.
b. Sidewalk or bikelane–why is there a side walk here–it looks like a retrofit of a bike lane to an existing bridge–this was designed and completely rebuilt; couldn’t we have done something better?
c. Watch for cables from the telephone poles into the sidewalk/bikelane; see 122, 123, 124.
d. Watch for the driveway as the sidewalk becomes a dedicated bikelane; see 125.
5. But watch the yellow fence on your right (see 126, 127, 128); I forgot what/who this is protecting–maybe keeping frustrated bikers from jumping off the bridge??
6. At least the bikelane icon is pointing in the proper direction (imho). And the grating is as bike-friendly as a grating can be. See 129.

…nice fall colors…

Now for what’s missing…Now that we have this “great” biking infrastructure into the Park, we need to continue it into Greenfield…
1. Sharrows up Ronald to Greenfield Ave–and along Greenfield Ave…all along…in both directions.
–To/from Hazelwood and then to Beechwood and its bikelane.
–To/from Second Avenue…
2. Left on Beechwood to Hazelwood; from Hazelwood along Beechwood is problematic; maybe just from the east end of Boulevard Drive (for now)…

It may have been easier to share what seems to be working here–let’s see (the bridge is now passable…Beechwood to Schenley Park)

We spent much time and effort, involving all the stakeholders; spent beaucoup bucks; waited almost two years…completely rebuilt the whole bridge form scratch…and this what we produced; one side with a bike lane; one side with sharrows; confusion; obstacles…???
Album: https://www.flickr.com/photos/130578562@N02/


NMR
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Those “triangles” pointed in the “wrong” direction are standard, and correctly placed, “YIELD” symbols.  That’s just a simple legal traffic control device (cc: Stu).  The green turn pockets allow a cyclist getting to and from Pocusset Street not to interfere with a cyclist at speed coming downhill and continuing across the bridge.  Bollards need added to prevents drivers from cutting the corner, since they’re not obeying the pavement markings.

The barrier blocking the sidewalk is an important feature because a pedestrian cannot see the bridge from that crossing to know the sidewalk does not continue.  Crossing here is the only safe location.  A cyclist choosing to ride the sidewalk here is in no danger of being right hooked because they do not have the right of way.  They are a pedestrian on a sidewalk, not a cyclist in a bike lane.  They are required to wait for the pedestrian signal, which is protected, in order to exit the curb ramp into the street.

The crux of this project was always the street width on the south side of the bridge.  Without widening the street and reconstructing the intersection, any additional bike infrastructure placed on the bridge would’ve abruptly ended in a dangerous arrangement.


Eric
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Why does the road way have a divider at the pocusset end when both sides of the divider go straight?


NMR
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The divider at Pocusset is to prevent drivers from turning left or right into Pocusset.  That street remains walk/bike-only.


StuInMcCandless
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I have not ridden this yet (well, I did, but only as a U-turn off Pocusset on a group ride). So I don’t think I can comment on this properly yet.

I will try to get out here sometime in the next few weeks, but tbh, I rarely get to this part of town, and crossing this bridge is perpendicular to my path of travel when I do.


jonawebb
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I ride it every day. I really like it. It seems reasonable to me.

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