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"...unless your a homo"

Most bigoted thing I've heard today, but it's still early.

"Backpack is huge full and heavy."

Is that some kind of code, like teabagging or something?

@edward m, please don't use this message board for anti-gay remarks.

& yes kordite, lets hope that is the most bigoted thing all day.

edmonds59, there's still the "Why?" car-hating thread. While that's still on the front page there could be competition.

"Is that some kind of code, like teabagging or something?"

We bitter folks who cling to guns and religion prefer the term "Tea Party", thank you very much.

Sorry for hurting your homo feelings. Goodbye Pittsburgh. I will be back in a few months.

No rush. As I said to an uncle once, unless you can change your mind the world will be a better place without you.

Wow.

Did that really just happen?

Gosh, historian, I wasn't even making fun of you guys. THAT time. Ha, ha!

I have no issue with hating on inamimate objects. Whether or not it makes any sense.

Yeah, no hurry, ed m, take yur time.

Wow, I thought his ramblings were senseless but harmless, but it turns out he's a f-in idiot after all. Let me know when you finish your crappy cabins so I can remember not to stay there.

So I spent 4 months hiking 1,960 miles of the AT in 2008. "Huge full and heavy" backpacks will not get you far. My base weight was 10 pounds. Bigoted and homophobic remarks will get you nowhere. Good luck to that guy.

'"Huge full and heavy" backpacks will not get you far. My base weight was 10 pounds.'

And that's a lot considering your total body weight is 25 pounds, Joe.

*waves*

*air kisses*

I guess you can pack more when you don't have to worry about the added weight of a brain.

And you have to love bigoted remarks included in a sentence with such poor grammar: unless "YOUR" a hom*.

Hey, C'mon. He said something that was hateful, and make him look ignorant or at least intolerant. While I don't condone what he said, he doesn't deserve all this in response. Let's cut out the name calling and personal insults, please. We're all bigger people than that.

It's not slander if it's true. And it's not name calling either. Besides, I've seen worse personal attacks on a timito thread.

This would be libel, not slander.

Thanks Joe. (English Major-turned-contractor here. Not an attorney.)

Personally I thought the response was rather mild.

Hmmm?

I never really understood the ego of straight males who have this aversion to homosexual males. Are they really so deluded to think that ANY being interested in relations with men would be so violently attracted that a polite "not my type, sorry" wouldn't deter them? Do they have this problem with straight women?

Besides, what happens on the AT stays on the AT. Like Vegas, but with more plants and fewer show girls.

@ ejwme

I can't speak for homosexual men, but the Jazz Singer-songwriter Andy Fite wrote a song called "Male DNA" that had the chorus

Male DNA! Male DNA!

Any reasonabley healthy female

Makes us want to give some away.

Also, my impression many harassment issues have, at the core, this tendency of men for a wellspring of sexual harassment ("He can't seem to understand that I don't want him.")

So, yeah, a lot of times it is a problem with straight men and women. I'd be shocked if you and the other women here haven't (each and every one of you) run into it.

A little assertiveness can get over this for sure.

However assertiveness is sometimes an issue. I know women that have that issue.

I would imagine there are men for whom being propositioned - even gently and politely - would remain bothersome for the whole trip. Most men have rarely had to turn down a proposition from anyone, male or female, who would be expected to remain in contact with them. There are also men whose persistance could be an issue.

Oh boy. The wacky adventure has a prologue.

If I go missing, I will be so angry at you folks - but look for me anyway, plz.

I think I understand where edward m is coming from. Maybe I do, anyway. You see, I once had a homosexual roommate. For an entire school year. He was quite active and even aggressive sexually; I was (and still am) straight. Like anyone who's shared a dorm room with someone who "had someone over", I knew when to make myself scarce, and for how long. We got along.

My roommate never made a pass at me, but even if he had, I don't think I would have had too much trouble telling him no, less out of fear or disgust (which I think is edward m's problem), and more that I just wasn't interested. The fear and disgust thing is learned, and I never learned it. My roomie was a little goofy, sexual preferences aside, so I was able to take that aspect of him in stride. I suppose if you never had that kind of experience, you might have a harder time accepting homosexuality in others.

Society itself is a lot more accepting now than it was in 1979, but there is no shortage of people like edward m for whom the whole idea is abhorrent.

Things get a little bit easier once you understand.

I got asked out a couple of times by dudes back at CMU. You know, Drama dept and all. If I had gone it would probably have equalled the number of times I went out with women in those years. Still strikes me as a bit odd, since to my recollection, I most closely resembled Booger from Revenge of the Nerds. A real catch. Anyway, I just said no thanks. I would have gladly accepted drinks, but I didn't want to lead the poor fellows on.

my particular ego has always gotten a boost when i've been hit on by someone, male or female.

the thing i wonder about this particular circumstance is why the need to mention "homos need not apply" was ever felt. does edward m have gay d00ds knocking on his door daily or something? why even bring it up? it strikes me as complete foolishness to wish to broadcast these sorts of hangups to an audience you have to imagine will not receive them well.

I wonder if the OP's concern about camping with, well, you know, is related to wherever he was originally from. Even here in the eastern part of PA there are people who think "Pennsyltucky" and points south are the setting of the novel and movie Deliverance. (I don't, for the record.)

Or the OP might want to rattle some bottle and toe cages here. It seems he's done just that.

"Society itself is a lot more accepting now than it was in 1979, but there is no shortage of people like edward m for whom the whole idea is abhorrent."

It's possible to think homosexuality is "abhorrent" without thinking every man who practices it is a satyr or worse. Or even if you do think like that, to avoid saying it in public. I think the OP was trying to draw attention.

I think Edward M. should take a role in a movie about homosexual bicycle shop employees in SW PA. Look for "Brokebike Mountain" at theaters soon....

Hey edward m., how would you feel about an African-American hiking companion?

Oh Hahaha. Here I was avoiding this thread because the title led me to believe it would be full of arch references to clear-cut utility corridors and spontaneously AWOL executives that I was sure I couldn't top. But c'mon, not one? I'm so disappointed.

this could be worse than the "CARS WHY" thread!!!

It is just barely May and I believe edward m has secured his position as best new poster of 2011.

@sloaps If I go missing, I will be so angry at you folks - but look for me anyway, plz.

I think we'll all just assume you met a nice, manly hiker and have run off to some place with pink beaches.

"It is just barely May and I believe edward m has secured his position as best new poster of 2011."

Any word from him?

I made it to Rockwood woohoo. Ow my feet hurt. Todays hike was 19 miles. It took 7 days to get this far. The last 4 miles were in dark. I may stay in Rockwood 2 days because my feet are blistered. And I never had a African American backpacking friend but was at a campsite near Harpers Ferry in 2010 and No Pain who is black was already camped there and it was great to have a experienced hiker to talk to. Am only going to West Virginia and Maryland and back to PA. My backpack is very heavy but I dont like small 1 man tents or wearing same clothes everyday. I got 38 posts and will post again tomorrow. Anyone interested in a day to day story of my trip?

I made it to Rockwood woohoo. Ow my feet hurt. Todays hike was 19 miles. It took 7 days to get this far. The last 4 miles were in dark. I may stay in Rockwood 2 days because my feet are blistered. And I never had a African American backpacking friend but was at a campsite near Harpers Ferry in 2010 and No Pain who is black was already camped there and it was great to have a experienced hiker to talk to. Am only going to West Virginia and Maryland and back to PA. My backpack is very heavy but I dont like small 1 man tents or wearing same clothes everyday. I got 38 posts and will post again tomorrow. Anyone interested in a day to day story of my trip?

Only if it involves hot gay sex.

Or bestiality.

Nah I'm pretty much only in if it involves hot sweaty man on man sex. Preferably loud and rough.

What about a 3 way involving two dudes plus something furry?

Well that's just a party!

Bears.

I was going to ask "bears or bears?" But it kinda works either way.

Remember the "Adams Family", the butler Lurch would make this groan when he thought those around him were being, unusual. Well just imagine I'm making that sound.

uuuuhhhhhhhhggggg!

Awesome! Four days in and you met No Pain! I met him a little north of Damascus VA in 2008. Glad to see he's still on trail. Great guy.

Edward, yes, I'd like to hear about your trip.

Joe, I take it No Pain is one of those folks who live on the AT? I mean literally live on the trail.

It was in spring 2010 when I shared a camping site with No Pain. He was backpacking staying fit for a Continental Divide thru hike. Anyone want to do some C and O Canal hiking to Harpers Ferry? Am resting in Rockwood for another day. I got here at 9:40 last night. But I ate good today and did laundry. Foolishly I packed heavy with a 5.5 pound dome tent, 24 ounces of alcohol, 775 ml pot,titanium bowl, 2 quart GI canteen with bag/ shoulder strap. It is a lot for a skinny guy to carry. My feet are blistered so at Rockwood I stay. Tomorrow I hike to hostel in Meyersdale. It too far to hike Rockwood to Frostburg. And Husky Haven has washing machine and dryer for $3.

The Meyersdale hostel is pretty decent, for a basement room.

Once you're on the AT, you can ditch the tent. There are wooden shelters every 5-15 miles.

As for the pot, you really only need to boil two cups. The Knorr Pasta Sides, Rice Sides, and Veggie Sides come in bags that just so happen to hold an additional two cups of water. Take advantage of that. Also, Idahoan Mashed Potatoes come in bags that hold enough water to reconstitute the potatoes, and they're just as good cold as hot.

My usual dinner method was to boil two cups of water (I notched the side of my pot at the two-cup mark so I don't have to measure). While that's heating up, slowly add water to a bag of mashed potatoes and stir. By that time, the water is boiling. Add the water to the Knorr Sides, stir, and fold over the top to seal it up, and set it aside. Eat the potatoes. By the time you're done with the potatoes, the Knorr Sides are finished rehydrating.

Edit: PACK IT IN -> PACK IT OUT. Carry an extra ziplock for your trash. Don't leave your trash on the trail.

I used the biggest pot in 3 piece cookset. Left the 575ml pot and frying pan at home. A smaller pot would use half the alcohol to cook. Bought 2 packs of Lipton Knorr at a little restaurant/store in Ohiopyle.It is extra deliciouse if you add some meat or shrooms. Hostel in Meyersdale may be closed may have to stay at Gram Grams or hide in woods and stealth camp. Mason Dixon campground is off trail 10 miles outside Meyersdale. Am carrying enough clothes to do a small load of laundry and it dried on high in 15 minutes. About to walk back to campsite with a stop at the trail store next to bridge to look for some thick wool socks and a few energy bars. If I wash and tumble dry on low my sleeping bag will it self destruct? The cold rain on Wednesday soaked most of my stuff but it dried Thursday and today.93 miles done 396 miles to go. Miles include the 3 mile walk to Pittsburgh and 3 miles from AT to my Dads house. And how can a backpackers pack only weigh 10 pounds, that is crazy light.

My clothes consisted of the clothes on my back, and a hawaiian shirt and shorts for in-town. Hardly enough for even a small load of laundry.

The secret for washing and drying sleeping bags is to wash and dry it in a FRONT-ENTRY washer and dryer, with 6 or 8 tennis balls along with it. The tennis balls break up the clumps. Most laundry places along the trail have tennis balls to borrow.