jail trail/ panther hollow

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helen s
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I hate riding 2nd Avenue! I find it a bit scary and very stressful. Any suggestions as to the best way to find out what parts of these two trails (major commute routes for many of us) are ridable or not? Can we keep a topic going on the board specifically for these?

I will not be on them until Monday, so hopefully they will be clear by then.

Going up Greenfield during rush hour is just hard, which is ok- just another workout.


alankhg
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http://twitter.com/pghtrails is moderately updated. Dunno what your route is but you can also go downtown via Fifth Ave. or cross over to the South Side.

But daytime temperatures will be above freezing during the day regularly, so this snow hopefully won’t last too long.


sloaps
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PennDOT’s Brady Street Camera is always helpful. The camera is located near the section of the jail trail near the Birmingham bridge.

It refreshes every 5 seconds.

http://www.dot.state.pa.us/Penndot/Districts/district11.nsf/TCID330?OpenPage


Ohiojeff
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From the passenger side of a car going over the bridge into Schenley park and looking down on Thursday evening, the Panther hollow trail did not appear visible at all. All white until you got to the parking lot down at the far end–and that was before the snow we just had. Of course, that was just a 5 second glimpse from above–but thought I should mention it.


spakbros
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Hollow trail has not been remotely passable for almost 4 weeks and probably will not be for at least 2 more.

F*ck you public works.


spakbros
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I forgot to mention that it is completely covered in feces due to negligible dog owners.


sloaps
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…completely covered in feces due to negligible dog owners.

for another post (or website perhaps), but if anyone is down for shoveling I’ll be there Sunday 10ish starting from the run.

dunno if Big Jim’s is open on Sundays, though it’d be a nice watering hole afterwards.


greenbike
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…completely covered in feces due to negligible dog owners.

You mean negligent?


sloaps
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Lots of poo and saw only one dog on a leash. I cleared about 300 or 400 feet of trail from the 4 mile run side. Could have done more, but I was pretty tired and hungover. Ice was pretty thick at the trailhead, but thinned out after 100 feet or so.

Dan I have your scraper. there is no poo on it.


reddan
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Dan I have your scraper. there is no poo on it.

I never thought anyone would ever say that to me.


spakbros
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…completely covered in feces due to negligible dog owners.

You mean negligent?

haha. yes. or……completely covered in feces due to negligible dog ownership skills.


spakbros
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@sloaps:

You are awesome. I wish I would have seen your post about shoveling as I would have helped. Let me know if you want to resume next Sun. Assuming it isn’t all melted by that point.


Chris Mayhew
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Supposedly the Jail Trail is rideable at this point.


helen s
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I peered down onto the Panther Hollow portion while out for a run this afternoon- there was some pavement visible near the north end of the soccer field, but it was all thick slush/ snow north of the Blvd. bridge.


Chris Mayhew
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Jail Trail is rideable. Junction Hollow is still a hike a bike. Both according to a friend who rode in via road (ish) bike today.


StuInMcCandless
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Does JH need a shovel party? Or should we just let nature take its course?


alankhg
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The forecast is above freezing every day and starts staying above freezing day-and-night by Sunday, so it’s probably not worth it.


sloaps
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I can only hope that by Friday the 2″ to 3″ of packed to loose granular ice on the Junction Hollow trail is gone.


Mick
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Doubt if it will be gone by Friday. But it would be sillly, IMO, for a shovel party.

Maybe get some lawn chairs. Sit and drink beer and watch the snow melt. The trail will be open by the end of teh weekend.


helen s
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Can we hold you to that Mick? I am not convinced- the hollow always stays considerable colder than other areas, which is a nice thing on a hot summer day.


Mick
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I’m thinking of taking a shovel cruise down the hollow maybe Sunday afternoon, just to give a guarantee.

If my predictions are unsucessful, I’ll return all fees, of course.

Just fill out Form 1023B3454C9, version F in triplicate, sign and notarize it. Send me tht form, along with your credit card number, your social security number, the passwords to your online bank accounts, and the names of your pets, and I’ll be right on it.

You can trust me.


raphael
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just as long as it automatically enters me into the Nigerian lottery which I hear is pretty high nowadays.


sloaps
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So it’s Sunday? Spak, you down for Sunday?


StuInMcCandless
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No guarantees, but I might be able to get there, too. Is there any actual ice left that needs chopped? I’ll likely be coming by bus, and don’t want to carry more than one tool.

And sorry, Mick, but the cat doesn’t have a name.


Mick
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@stu: And sorry, Mick, but the cat doesn’t have a name

How to ever get it to come when you call then?

HHAHAHAHA (I’ve owned cats)


scott
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Sorry to ruin your fun weekend plans, but I just talked to Councilman Kraus’ office and we’re trying to get this plowed before the weekend.


Mick
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@scott-

Your faith in the city’s plowing techniques is touching.


sloaps
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But, Scott. I will have girl scout cookies! probably just tag-a-longs, because I only have 1-1/2 boxes left of the do-si-does

nom nom nom


spakbros
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It would be such a shame for the plow to ruin our ‘fun’ ;)

If said plow never shows up (likely) then I will be down for a brief shovel party before my not so brief pierogie making ‘party’ in the afternoon


netviln
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Has anyone had a chance to see the north shore trail past the casino to see how clear they might be?


helen s
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I was going to go for a run downstream past the casino on Friday afternoon and will report before 4 pm.


sloaps
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so i think the dogwalker with the blue plastic snow shovel I saw yesterday in junction hollow may be responsible for the additional clearing.


scott
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Got an update. PHT is still scheduled to be plowed before the weekend. I’ll get another update tomorrow.


netviln
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Northshore trail is clear from downtown till just past the casino, then its still 4-8 inch deep icy snow.


Mick
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Here’s the deal on Junction Hollow. I’ve been observing it from the Blvd of the Allies bridge.

It looks passible. There is still a lot of snow on it.

A couple hundred yards or so has been plowed sometime ago, just north of the parking lot. That is now wide, clear, dry path.

It looks like someone has cleared a shovel-width path under the bridge for another hundred yds or so.

Here’s hoping Scott is right about the plow.

In any case, I expect there to be packed ice on parts of the trail and various places where a plow would leave snow right where a rider would want to pass.

The weather today and tomorrow is 35-40 in the day and about 20 (that’s cold!) at night.

What I envision:

-Starting at 2 pm Sunday. (Give stuff a chance to melt.) Meet at the north end of Junction Hollow trail.

-Cruising first Junction Hollow, then maybe some of the jail trail (like the entrance at Bates St.)or Hot Metal.

-There might be some icy stuff along the trail, but I think we would be clearing the entrances, exits, and any really bad parts of the trail.

-I envision mainly riding with shovels – and that any problems would take just a couple of minutes to clear up.

-I don’t think it would be worthwhile to travel a distance to do this patrol by foot. I could be wrong, if they don’t plow, though.

In any case, after sunday, the temps are in teh 40’s in teh day and above freezing most nights – this will all be clear in a bit even if we do nothing. Although if we don’t do it AND the city doesn’t plow there might be some icy spots for the next two weeks.

I’ll bring cookies.

Mick


Willie
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Does anyone know if the south side trail is going to be cleaned up soon? A few sections were plowed about a week ago but between the 9th street entrance and about 13th street its a mess. There are many trees and branches fallen across and hanging above the trail. Even if they wanted to there is no way to get a plow on that section right now.


Mick
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I won’t be near a computer between now and then, but I will be at the North end of the Junction Hollow trail at 2 pm on Sunday, if anyone wants to join me.

Mick


helen s
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I’ll take it Junction Hollow was not plowed before this morning then? If anyone is still out there with shovels round 5:40, I will come through on my way home from work and shovel a bit- I used to hoist a shovel professionally.


scott
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Curious if this was plowed. I sure hope so. If not sorry I’m not there to help. I’m at home trying to finish a grant before leaving tomorrow for DC.


alankhg
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No plowing done. I stopped and helped Mick clear a path at the last remaining gap in the snow.

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