Local News Stories and LTE 2019.

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Eric
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google chrome version 76 fixed some sort of loophole with incognito mode so that most news sites can’t keep track of articles you read now while in incognito mode. So for those that hit the Post-Gazette pay/registerwall and also hit it with incognito mode, it now shouldn’t be an issue if you upgrade to chrome 76. At least for now.


Eric
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jonawebb
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PG on history of cycle commuting in Pittsburgh.

Pittsburgh’s romance with cycling


Eric
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Eric
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not sure how much this is used by cyclists but there’s a meeting next week about re-do of the sewickley bridge.

https://www.post-gazette.com/news/transportation/2019/08/11/Sewickley-Bridge-PennDOT-bridge-rehabilitation-hearing-spring-2020-Ohio-River/stories/201908090124


jonawebb
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Eric
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Eric
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jonawebb
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Eric
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RustyRed
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Regarding the off-duty officer drunk-hit-and-run article: I’m wowed by how much technology was used to charge him: GPS from his truck, cameras from outside and inside the bar…


Eric
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Glad the police pursued it. Especially when the person of interest was a cop.


Eric
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Also with the guy on security camera drinking 8 beers and several shots plus him stumbling out to the car and getting in while pushing someone away who tried to stop him I’m thinking that the bar has culpablity in the matter, if not criminal (ie seems they don’t want to pursue criminal) then at least civil.


jonawebb
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There’s not much civil liability if there wasn’t much injury. And it sounds like that is true, fortunately.


Eric
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Good point. Though I think the pain and suffering from his concussion might be enough to more than pay for the cost of the law suit.


Eric
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Eric
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The PG had an enlightened editorial about how downtown needs more parking.

https://www.post-gazette.com/opinion/editorials/2019/08/18/Pittsburgh-parking-development-Bill-Peduto/stories/201904300220

Which has generated some response.
https://www.post-gazette.com/opinion/2019/08/21/City-needs-more-transit-options/stories/201908210060

If you read the PG online with chrome v 76 it can’t track you/you can’t hit the reading limit.

BTW Paul and Jon ftw with their editorial comments.


StuInMcCandless
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Cop story:
* DUI, check
* Runs red light, assorted other infractions, check
* Big pickup truck, check
* Hit and run, check
* Denies culpability, check
* White supremacist, check
* Boatload of corroborating evidence, check
* Gets to keep his job (for now), check

Shall I go on?


Eric
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* = suspended without pay, right?
so at least there’s that. but ,yeah, it doesn’t look good any way you look at it.
I’m just glad that the police pursued it instead of burying it.


Eric
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Pedal PGH this Sunday

Bike pgh has once again done a masterful job promoting this on their message board.


Eric
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The Iguana
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<div dir=”auto”>Sometimes it pays to be a pedestrian… And seems to be related to the law stated in the article…maybe even inconsistent with it…

From https://www.penndot.gov/TravelInPA/RideaBike/PagesBicycle-Safety-and-Pennsylvania-Laws.aspxLaws.aspx

Automobiles are not required to yield to bicycles being ridden across a crosswalk (at a trail crossing for example) as the bicycle is treated as a vehicle. A better choice is to dismount and walk your bike across

  • This reply was modified 3 months, 3 weeks ago by  The Iguana.

Eric
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The old white guys who complain about everything to the Trib and the PG must think that bike Lanes take up 75 percent of the city budget.

Today’s take: LTE saying that bike Lanes are the reason why Grandview Ave has fallen into disrepair.

https://www.post-gazette.com/opinion/letters/2019/08/24/A-gem-in-disrepair/stories/201908240029


AtLeastMyKidsLoveMe
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@eric – unfortunately I don’t think most people realize all the various pots of money that pay for things. If anyone has ever seen a municipal budget they would know that general road maintenance, vs bike lanes, vs maintaining a regional tourist attraction would each get paid for from different pots – and each of those distinct pots might be getting filled from multiple sources (ie County money, state funding, etc).

But “old man shaking fist at clouds” out there is gleefully unaware, and after all, isn’t rambling incoherently a lot more fun anyway…?


Eric
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It’s also part of the “I paid taxes my whole life and now there’s a bike lane costing millions that adds 30 seconds onto my trip.” And feeling like the bike lane is a handout- people that use it are lazy millennials. Or not white Etc.


Eric
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https://triblive.com/local/valley-news-dispatch/redesigned-bike-lanes-could-protect-cyclists-in-pittsburgh-area/

Parking protected bike lane demonstration this weekend at Kingsley assoc.

Cue the angry old white people comments underneath the article! They’re good this time! Like Karen who will take her business elsewhere rather than park next to a bike lane!!!

Is it mean of me to be glad that in a generation most of these anti progress old white people won’t be alive anymore?

Also riverlife and cultural trust looking for rad money to art-ify the trail from the point to the strip.

https://www.post-gazette.com/local/city/2019/09/05/Regional-Asset-District-stirs-nonprofits-with-new-money-pot-Pittsburgh-impact/stories/201909060068


Eric
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Hoodlebug Trail festival in Homer City Sunday includes a “bicycle poker run,” whatever that is. I guess you get 5 playing cards during the ride.

https://triblive.com/local/regional/hoodlebug-trail-bike-run-kicks-off-annual-homer-city-festival/


Kolo Jezdec
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“Angry old white people…”. That pejorative appears quite regularly in these comments lately.  Apparently it is quite acceptable to use this phrase here.  I wonder what other races or age groups could be lumped together in such a negative way?

My guess is that the people who post comments regarding news about bike lanes and such cover a wide age range, though I would suppose most are white.  Most are also likely a bit older, because demographics show that young people do not read daily papers, even on the internet.

On the other hand, to the best of my knowledge, an older white person has never tried to run me off the road, thrown a half full beer bottle at me, right hooked me to get into a shopping center, clipped my elbow with the gigantic mirror on his truck, rolled into me at a stop sign because she was on her phone,  dumped hundreds of nails along the route of a charity bike ride, nor jumped out of his truck and assaulted me because I was in ‘his’ lane.   The people who did this were mostly under forty, 2 were black, 2 were woman. These are incidents that occurred in the past few years and have likely happened to us all.   Most of them were angry.

I’ll take some people venting in the comments section anytime over the angry folks we encounter everyday on the road.  Those angry young/middle aged, white/black, male/female drivers earn the negative remarks. Maybe we could stop with the angry old white people comments.  I am sad that some on here are glad that the old white people alive today will be gone in a couple of decades.  Of course, the middle aged white people of today will replace them, and the new group of old white people will not like change either.  For that matter, neither will old black/hispanic/Asian/native American/mixed face people.I

Thank you for your time. This old, but seldom angry, white person appreciates it.


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ShooFlyPie
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I can’t read the PG article because I am already out of my free articles.

I really was mostly concerned to read it for the comments from the “angry old white men” abundant here in yinzerville at the bottom. I bet they are a hoot. Then we can come here on Bike Pittsburgh message boards and argue more about people lumping them all together as a pejorative.

  • This reply was modified 3 months, 1 week ago by  ShooFlyPie. Reason: I have the grammar of a fourth grader

Eric
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If you upgrade to the newest version of Chrome, in exchange for letting Google monetize everything about your browsing habits you can use Incognito mode, which now (in the newest version of Chrome) defeats the “you have run out of free articles.”


Eric
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here are the current comments, btw, cut and pasted via incognito mode.

Anthony Cholewinski7 hours ago
How many streets are wide enough for this configuration?
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Earl Rothfuss6 hours ago
@anthony Cholewinski This is a really good and entirely pertinent question. Many urban and small town streets throughout Pennsylvania are not nearly wide enough to accommodate the lane additions. Making the lanes used by motor vehicles much narrower is going to have significant impact on accident rates.
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dave sobal5 hours ago
@Earl Rothfuss I believe the impact on accident rates with narrower lanes will happen. Cars will drive slower (maybe even down to the speed limit!) and drivers might become more attentative therefore reducing collisions.
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Luke Steelerstalls8 hours ago
Cyclists are entitled and elitist SJWs who do not follow traffic laws.
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Nivek Morris5 hours ago
@Luke Steelerstalls Not entirely true, I know plenty of old rednecks who ride bikes.
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Duke Penguinstalls4 hours ago
@Luke Steelerstalls I s SJWs the same as PDS?
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Stephen Dennison8 hours ago
Most cyclist ride for exercise and fun. Go on the routes that are safe and stay off the heavily traveled roads. It is the cyclist who make the roads unsafe.
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Nivek Morris6 hours ago
@stephen Dennison Yes, when I drive I’m terrified I may be hit by a bike and have to buff out the spot on my bumper where they hit. The bike riders I may hit have no such worries.
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Paul Heckbert13 hours ago
It’s ridiculous that PA law doesn’t currently allow a left-to-right lane arrangement like this: [driving lane, parking, bike lane, curb]. If there’s parking, currently the law allows only [driving lane, bike lane, parking, curb]. The latter puts cyclists at greater risk of injury or death because cyclists have to ride several feet away from parked cars to avoid getting doored (colliding with a car door that someone swings open suddenly in front of them), probably crashing to the ground, and then possibly getting run over by a car passing them closely on the left. With the first arrangement, a parking-protected bike lane, cyclists are further from moving cars that could kill them. PA needs to pass the law to allow bike lanes to be built this way. Having more and safer bike lanes will get more people biking (commuting to work, recreation, taking a short ride to the store, …) which is good for health, saving money, decongesting roads, air quality, …
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Richard McHenry7 hours ago
@paul Heckbert Were you one of the 40 demonstrators?
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Mitch D.19 hours ago
I want to ride my horse to work, can we get a hard dirt or clay surface along Grant st., and a hitching post? I don’t like bicycles because their tires don’t decompose in the landfills, and cars pollute the air.
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Luke Steelerstalls7 hours ago
@mitch D. I suggest we also use pack mules and horses for the mail to be distributed in the city.
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Duke Penguinstalls4 hours ago
@Luke Steelerstalls It is metaphysically impossible to be more lame or corny.
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paulheckbert
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I’m clearly failing at being terse and inflammatory in the PG comment section.


Eric
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It’s interesting how the 40 people riding bikes became “demonstrators.”. You know, antifa, hooligans, etc.

All those demonstrators are asking to do is for laws to change so the bike lane can be on the inside, not the outside.


Eric
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Interesting article on the PG today about redevelopment of shady-penn. What’s bike related is that there’s neighborhood opposition to it because of increased car traffic. But nestled in the quotes is a pro car view. Especially seen with the person who complains it’ll be unsafe for pedestrians and lead to longer delays for him as a driver. So the pro peds view being expressed (they’re not going to be safe) is really pro car (it’s going to take more time for me to drive where I want).

I’m not saying anything about the merits of this project, but to help solve congestion and sprawl and affordable housing and global climate change part of the answer is denser housing. But current stakeholders almost universally rail against it, even in liberal neighborhoods like Shadyside.

Planet money from NPR had a few episodes this summer about this exact battle taking place in California.

https://www.post-gazette.com/local/city/2019/09/10/East-End-residents-conersn-proposed-Shadyside-development-Shady-Hill-Center/stories/201909100062


NMR
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@eric That PG article could’ve been done by the Onion without changing a word. Do not try to rationalize a single word of those complaints; they’re caricatures of old white wealthy NIMBYs.

My favorite is the old white lady, a Shadyside resident for all of *two* years, complaining that neighborhood character will be ruined by a “suburban” development. They’re replacing a godd*mn strip mall with dense infill! A strip mall!

Community meetings on housing are for the privileged to get their say and little else. They provide almost no redeeming value.


Eric
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I didn’t want to touch the “old white people” third rail of this message board.

The irony is that that strip mall has been terrible for years. It had some businesses that served the AA community but they all moved out. And the giant eagle is pretty substandard. With development giant eagle will make that store better and serve everyone better. That store is a marginal step up from the terrible old center ave Giant eagle that closed about 10 years ago.


Eric
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My favorite quote: “take away from the ambience of the neighborhood.”

Because that strip mall with the liquor store and giant eagle and dollar store was fantastic.

I grew up in Shaker heights Ohio and they just redid an old strip mall with mixed use development, mainly offices and stores/Restaurants and a climbing gym. It’s now hipster heaven. There were the usual complaints but now that it is done it’s beloved by the community and a huge selling point to bring younger adults/families who would move out to, say, Solon instead. Plus it’s right where the rapid terminates so it’s a 20 min train ride to downtown for work.

My dad lives two blocks away and my guess is that it’s increased the value of his house by about 10 percent.


Eric
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A lte in the PG from “speed traps give the gubmint $$$” anti radar bill camp.

I have to point out- he’s 80 years old. Lives near Philly. And first Google search result for him is a letter he wrote to the PUC trying to refuse a smart meter for his utilities at home because they cause cancer…

https://www.post-gazette.com/opinion/2019/09/10/Bill-would-expand-speed-traps-for-profits/stories/201909100023


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