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RustyRed
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Quote Jon: “From Peduto’s Twitter feed:
[insert photo of crazy rant of loonball with serial killer handwriting]”

Yeesh, I wonder what page 2 says!


J Z
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“Oakland to expand bike infrastructure:
http://www.post-gazette.com/local/city/2015/06/07

Man, that piece was a political hatchet job.


chrishent
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Blink and you’ll miss it: this Sunday, there was an op-ed on the PG about bike sharing:

http://www.post-gazette.com/opinion/Op-Ed/2015/06/07/Bike-sharing-is-a-big-deal/stories/201506030036


RustyRed
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chrishent said: “Blink and you’ll miss it: this Sunday, there was an op-ed on the PG about bike sharing:
http://www.post-gazette.com/opinion/Op-Ed/2015/06/07/Bike-sharing-is-a-big-deal/stories/201506030036

How many times has Oren mentioned that he used Divvy in Chicago?
So cute.
So progressive.
I think his spouse is warping him.


jonawebb
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Pittsburgh wants help surveying all our city steps. http://phcapgh.org/staircases/volunteers-needed-to-help-the-city-of-pittsburgh-survey-all-700-city-steps/
Seems to me this is right up the alley of some people around here.


chrishent
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edmonds59
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Pfft. Obviously paid shills for the allpowerful bike lobby. :D


Marko82
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Phenomenal Hope back at it.

“Shaler woman, teammate biking across the West for charity”
http://triblive.com/neighborhoods/yournorthhills/yournorthhillsmore/8495112-74/race-team-alderson#ixzz3ch17q2sw


chrishent
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Marko82
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jonawebb
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Also on Open Streets, in the PG, from the Open Streets chairs, with a business focus: http://www.post-gazette.com/opinion/letters/2015/06/11/OpenStreets-received-positive-business-feedback/stories/201506110058


neilmd
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Not quite sure where to post this but a cogent rebuttal to the “bikers should pay their fair share” trope in Velonews.


Marko82
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StuInMcCandless
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Following @neilmd‘s post, I separately ran across this story via Twitter yesterday. Topic: Even on Chicago’s most heavily used streets, taxes don’t pay for the roads.

http://www.metroplanning.org/news/article/7146

From the article: And these estimates are conservative. They don’t include billions of dollars for the initial cost of construction or the $8,000 per mile to plow and salt in the winter or $113,000 per mile spent on police and safety.

I would love to see someone do a similar calculation on Pittsburgh area roads.

I would really like to see a good estimate of what a raise in either the motor fuels or a Vehicle Miles Traveled tax would need to be in order to make the roads “self-paying” — not as an argument for imposing such taxes, but as ammunition for discussions such as these — which makes this very much on topic for this thread.


Marko82
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Bright Green Autopods The Newest Way To Get Around Downtown
Bright Green Autopods The Newest Way To Get Around Downtown

I guess KDKA does a positive story about these cause, ya know, they kinda look like cars… [/snark]


mjacobPGH
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All of these things are kind of a worm hole when it comes to taxes/fees without talking to someone directly familiar to that system, but I really don’t see how a $26 fee to register your vehicle or a small fee for your drivers license pays for the roads. If anything, such fees cover the administrative costs of maintaining such a system. To me it would seem that the only “user fees” that drivers would pay directly towards roads are fuel taxes(which that argument has been adequately broken down) and direct tolls. Does anyone have any reason to believe that license/inspection/registration fees really do help to pay for roads? Any sources?


jonawebb
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I suppose the income from registration gets mixed with income from other things, and the DMV gets funded from the general fund, so it’s hard to track. But the liquid fuels tax in PA is 50 cents per gallon. So if a car owner drives 20K miles per year, which is about average, and gets 20 miles per gallon, the owner will end up paying for 1000 gallons of fuel, and $500 in liquid fuels tax. So any income from registration is dwarfed by the liquid fuels tax.


mjacobPGH
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I just wonder how much income could there really be from registering a vehicle or getting a license after you factor in the costs of the administration and the maintenance of a database? If there is any income at all, like you mentioned, I feel like it would be nominal compared to all other taxes that go towards paying roads.

In addition, when it comes to Pittsburgh, people like to say bikers need to pay for the infrastructure if we want it. Well, even if that were the case, a lot of it was paid for with grants: grants made possible by donations from bikers.


jonawebb
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In any case the PA liquid fuels tax pays for something like a third of Pittsburgh’s DPW maintenance budget. The city gets no income whatsoever from registration and licensing.


chrishent
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Photo of the day in the PG:

Man cycles to work down Penn Ave wearing a parachute ;-)


Marko82
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Dunbar officially a Trail Town
Dunbar to determine how the borough can attract visitors to use the Sheepskin Trail. The 2.1-mile path is an offshoot to the Great Allegheny Passage

http://triblive.com/news/fayette/8568359-74/trail-dunbar-town#ixzz3dEx0odf0


The Iguana
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The Dunbar article only noted that the Sheepskin Trail is slated to connect to Point Marion. I would add that that will ten connect to the existing Morgantown trail system…to Fairmont and Shinnston…to the Decker’s Creek trail…

The last time (4- week ago) I went by the Sheepskin spur, there was signage directing one to Dunbar as well as brochures from the Historical Society showcases various historical venues in Dunbar.


chrishent
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Surprisingly positive, short blurb on Healthy Ride in WPXI. Video is positive, too:

http://www.wpxi.com/news/news/pittsburgh-takes-green-step-forward-new-bike-share/nmdmz/

As per usual, the Facebook comments on this post might need a little enlightenment


chrishent
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andyc
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The letter is of course right. Who wants a bike lane in a park? We should of course tear out the sidewalks too! Oh, and that running track, the ice rink, and those playgrounds… there could be roads there!


edmonds59
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^I don’t know this “Mike Cherepko”, but dude, you win.


Marko82
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City Tackles Safety Concerns As More Cyclists Take To The Road
http://wesa.fm/post/city-tackles-safety-concerns-more-cyclists-take-road


Marko82
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New Pittsburgh Pirates draft pick sounds like someone we should get to know.

“(Bike riding) started off as something to do for fun. I was going with my mom and my brother just to local mountain bike trails. After I committed, I kind of shut it down as far as going on the trails. I was just riding on the road. It’s still fun. It’s another getaway, just to get baseball off my mind a little bit.”

http://triblive.com/sports/pirates/8554071-74/hayes-bryan-baseball#ixzz3dKUNS8ej


StuInMcCandless
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I added this comment to the Trib story:

Ke’Bryan, if you’re reading this, there are a lot of road riding groups in and around the city, with regularly scheduled rides, just about any day of the week or time of day or level of experience or difficulty or length. Nor would you be the only pro athlete on two wheels, as Steeler Antonio Brown rides regularly.

I’d be impressed if he showed up at a ride.


The Iguana
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I just rode the cycle track from 16th street to 6th. 1245-1251…lunch time… I was passed by only 4 cars…2 bicyclists..and a skateboarder was going on my directions….maybe the drivers are afraid of the bike lane.:;-) …


jonawebb
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This one arouses a deep feeling of ambivalence in me: http://triblive.com/opinion/letters/8569411-74/trails-bike-bikes
On the one hand, it’s good advice; the trails are fun to ride, especially with kids. On the other, maybe it’s saying we should get off the streets.


Marko82
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Marko82
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Need for Indian Creek Valley Trail council argued
http://triblive.com/news/fayette/8568608-74/trail-indian-section#ixzz3dWFVDRbV
cebook


chrishent
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Man seen riding motorized scooter on PA28:

BALLS.


RustyRed
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Scooter Dude:

“***UPDATE*** Pittsburgh Police and Pennsylvania State Police both say they had no calls about a man on a motorized scooter on Route 28.”

Interesting.


jonawebb
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I’ve been assuming this was legal already, but I guess not: http://www.wpxi.com/news/news/state-regional/drivers-would-be-able-ride-red-if-bill-passed/nmjTR/
“Currently, drivers can proceed through a traffic signal if it is not functioning properly. A signal with a sensor that does not trigger a light change for smaller vehicles is not considered inoperable.”


Steven
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PennDOT’s bicycle manual says “If your bike doesn’t trip the detector, you have to wait for a car to do it, or else you have to go through the red light. Going through the red isn’t against the law, because the light is defective. If you ever have a crash or get a traffic ticket because a traffic light won’t turn green, it’s the fault of whoever installed the detector.”

So this legislation will either make such maneuvers legal, or even more legal.


jonawebb
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You know that the PennDOT Bicycle Driver’s Manual doesn’t have force of law. Though I would sure use it in my defense if I was ever ticketed for this.


StuInMcCandless
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No, this is bad legislation based on bad information, and would be a mess. If you are a smaller vehicle which does not trigger a sensor, if present, that light is not adjusted properly and therefore malfunctioning, so 75-3112c2 applies.

What this does is allow people to proceed thru reds if the driver is impatient. An impatient driver is less likely to be looking for a cyclist proceeding through a legal green.


jonawebb
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I’d say that if the legislature is trying to pass a bill to make something legal, that’s likely to influence the courts to think that it wasn’t legal before.

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