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Eric
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Grusome sounding “accident” between car and peds on parkway east.

https://triblive.com/local/allegheny/14546476-74/fatal-crash-closes-parkway-east-second-avenue-in-pittsburgh

 

(update) KDKA had more info on their webpage.  I cut and pasted the important paragraph below.

The early information indicates there was a disabled vehicle on the Parkway. A second car stopped to assist the disabled vehicle. There were two people out of their vehicles when a third car came along and either hit the two men and threw them over the overpass or they jumped to avoid being hit. Both men fell down onto Second Avenue and struck the pavement and were run over by a passing vehicle.


Eric
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Marko82
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Man Hospitalized After Being Hit By PAT Bus

Man Hospitalized After Being Hit By PAT Bus

PITTSBURGH (KDKA) – An ambulance took a man to the hospital on Saturday after he said he was hit by a Port Authority Bus.

The incident happened around 8:30 p.m. Downtown near Wood Street and Forbes Avenue.The area was temporarily blocked off while police cleared the scene.

There was no immediate word on the severity of the man’s injuries.


Marko82
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Woman critically injured after being hit by car in Pittsburgh

https://www.wpxi.com/news/top-stories/woman-hit-by-car-pittsburgh-police-investigating-after-woman-is-hit-by-car/914739024

PITTSBURGH – A woman is in critical condition after being hit by a car in a crosswalk on a busy Pittsburgh street.

The accident happened around 8:30 p.m. Monday on California Avenue in the Brighton Heights neighborhood. 

 About a half-hour earlier, someone was hit along the same road, less than 2 miles away.

Police told Channel 11 the woman is in critical condition. We’re working to find out how badly the person involved in the other crash was hurt.


Eric
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Marko82
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A sad update:

Man Injured In Hit-And-Run Last Month In South Side Slopes Dies From Injuries

Man Injured In Hit-And-Run Last Month In South Side Slopes Dies From Injuries


Marko82
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https://www.wpxi.com/news/top-stories/pittsburgh-hit-and-run-man-dies-1-week-after-hit-and-run-in-downtown-pittsburgh/923831490

PITTSBURGH – A man who was struck by hit and run driver in downtown Pittsburgh has died, the medical examiner said.

Michael May, 55, was hit by a van or SUV on Feb. 7 in the 900 block of Fifth Avenue.

The road was closed from Washington Place to Diamond Street for several hours while police gathered evidence.

The Pittsburgh Collision Investigation Unit showed only Channel 11 what the driver left behind after hitting the victim and taking off. Various pieces of the suspect’s vehicle were left at the scene.


Eric
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Pedestrian struck by vehicle in Scott Township, condition unknown

Trib article with no info. Just a reporter listening to police radio.


StuInMcCandless
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In the same breath, a contradiction:
[West View police chief Bruce] Fromlak said the driver and the child also “may not have been fully paying attention when the accident occurred”. “The girl told our investigator that she saw the car and thought she had enough time to cross,” the chief said.

Also check out this great line of reasoning: …likely was the victim of poor visibility caused by the change over to daylight saving time, according to authorities.

West View, 12-year-old girl hit, hospitalized

I added this comment:

I don’t buy the story here. She was indeed paying attention. She saw the car and thought she had enough time to cross. She’s 12, she must have crossed this street hundreds of times.

But speeding or not, dark or not, marked crosswalk or not, the driver was at fault, per 75-3542(a):

§ 3542. Right-of-way of pedestrians in crosswalks.
(a) General rule.–When traffic-control signals are not in place or not in operation, the driver of a vehicle shall yield the right-of-way to a pedestrian crossing the roadway within any marked crosswalk or within any unmarked crosswalk at an intersection.

The real problem, as ever, is that local police cannot use radar to enforce speed limits.

  • This reply was modified 4 weeks, 1 day ago by  StuInMcCandless. Reason: Added my response to the Trib North article

paulheckbert
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My two cents on the West View pedestrian hit by car:

Shouldn’t the headline be “Speeding or inattentive driving likely caused car to hit pedestrian”?

The policeman said (paraphrasing) that we know the driver wasn’t speeding because the injuries to the pedestrian weren’t severe. That also means the injuries would have been less or perhaps nonexistent if the car had been traveling slower, right? Also, most days I come out unscathed when I’m walking in crosswalks and cars fail to stop for me, as required by law. Is the fact that I’m uninjured proof that the drivers are law-abiding?

Did Police Chief Fromlak ever study logical reasoning?


Eric
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Interesting that their entire synopsis of the case hinges on the statements of a 12 year old girl who was describing the crash after being hit and hurt. Seems their method of crash reconstruction was “well we’re not going to charge the driver so let’s talk to the girl and then we’re it up and leave.”

This is why we need to get rid of the 700 local police departments and instead have larger regional departments who have both patrol and detective functions.


AtLeastMyKidsLoveMe
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According to their website, West View Police Department has a full-time detective. So as constituted, they currently have both patrol and detective functions. Also, “those requiring extensive investigations or resources beyond our means are referred to outside agencies such as the Allegheny County Police.”

So, @eric, looks like West View is covered as far as the capability of their PD goes.

*It’s fair to disagree or dislike the outcome of an investigation, or even how it was conducted, but straying into “this is why we need to…” arguments is perilous…


StuInMcCandless
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From a West View resident who’s a Facebook friend:

Top comment on the West View Borough FB page discussing this event was a person complaining about how kids these days are always looking at their phones and don’t pay attention to where they’re going. Victim blame much?


Marko82
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Beloved Doctor Struck By Car Hours After Retiring Dies

Mere hours after treating his last patient, Dr. Danai walking home from a nearby community center when he was struck by a car at the intersection of Shady and Aylesboro avenues in Squirrel Hill. The driver stayed at the scene. It could not immediately be determined if police intend to file charges in connection with the accident.

https://patch.com/pennsylvania/baldwin-whitehall/s/gnxd4/beloved-doctor-struck-car-hours-after-retiring-dies?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_term=obituaries&utm_campaign=autopost&utm_content=baldwin-whitehall&fbclid=IwAR313cmRZM5AcspC7mrdfeUP7D2h_XqLAiM0np1RIRlkRL5Px40BofWuH-I

 


StuInMcCandless
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Eric
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what’s comical about 910 in Harmar (especially by Target/Giant Eagle Express) is that at least one of the intersections has crosswalks, crosswalk signs, and beg buttons, but there isn’t anywhere safe to cross to/from. there are no sidewalks.


Marko82
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How about a more accurate headline “Vehicle with headlights & brakes strikes pedestrian”


zzwergel
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Cyclist crash, not pedestrian related.

Today, I was hit by a car coming off the 40th St. Bridge upstream sidewalk. The vehicle was stopped on the crosswalk waiting to turn right onto the bridge from Foster St. Use the downstream sidewalk for Lawrenceville-bound travel as this almost happened to me once before.

As far as I know, I just got a few bumps and nothing was seriously hurt. Bike is a little banged up though.

  • This reply was modified 2 weeks, 2 days ago by  zzwergel.

Eric
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Hope you are ok Did you get the person’s information? Their auto insurance should pay for fixing your bike. They’ll probably also want you to sign a statement that you won’t sue them. They’ll probably also swing a token amount of extra money your way to get you to sign it.


zzwergel
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@eric, I gave her my phone number and sh wrote hers down. I did not get insurance info because the damage was not serious. The front wheel went out of true and the front brakes became misaligned. On Monday, I can take it to Kraynick’s and try to true the wheel there and get the brake and shifter fixed.

Also, I am not seriously hurt, all that happened is mild swelling on my lower left leg. there is no blood or bruises, and nothing feels like it is broken.


zzwergel
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Today, I’m feeling better. there is still mild pain in my left leg and shoulder that I can only feel if there is pressure applied to the area. I was able to go for a short ride on my old bike today around Aspinwall Riverfront Park.

  • This reply was modified 2 weeks, 1 day ago by  zzwergel.

StuInMcCandless
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Z, when I was hit, I got insurance info which paid for fixing both that bike and $50 toward my backup bike (cables and labor, mostly). I had Kindred do the work. They also paid me a four-digit sum not to sue, and covered the X-rays and ambulance ride.


zzwergel
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@stu, A few days ago, I sprained my ankle flying off of my bike near St. Margret’s Hospital. In fact, I went to the emergency room the next day to get my foot checked out. Nothing is broken, but it was sprained pretty badly. I have health insurance that covered the hospital expenses. Hopefully,  by Wednesday, I will be fully recovered.

The young woman in the car that hit me just gave me her first name and phone number. If that happens again, I will ask for more information.


Eric
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Pro tip from a physician: if it isn’t a life threatening injury and you don’t require ambulance transport go to one of the Urgent Care clincs down the street. Medexpress next to ephesus or Concentra. They can do the same thing- exam, x-ray, ? brace – much quicker and for much a much cheaper cost, both to you and to the medical system.


zzwergel
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@eric, Every time a family member went to urgent care, they were sent to the emergency room. Also, My health insurance should cover the hospital expenses as there is no deductible.


MaryShaw
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Is it still the case that you probably won’t get a proper police report unless they call either an ambulance (for you) or a tow truck (for your disabled vehicle, nevermind you can carry a bike away on your shoulder)?

If so, and if your insurance will cover in case the driver’s won’t, seems like it makes sense to take the ambulance ride and get checked out.  And also put the crash in the statistics.


Eric
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As a physician I can tell you that ambulance rides aren’t free anymore. A lot of insurances will determine that it wasn’t medically necessary and deny the claim and then you will get a three or four figure bill from the ambulance company. Never take an ambulance unless there’s a chance you’re going to die or have significant morbidity if you don’t.

Honestly it’s a pretty high level of care/monitoring and probably 50 percent of people who take ambulances don’t need them. Reason #959 when health Care is so expensive in America. :)


zzwergel
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This is getting of topic. I’m 98% better from both incidents and all that is left is a little pain in the foot and shoulder. We do not need to keep going on an on about this. Everything is ok.

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