Looking for a Richard Sachs Cyclocross Bike

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stefb
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I usually wear my chucks from 1994, as beaten up as they are, I won’t buy new ones. Does that count as being ok? For someone who has slowly been making an effort to purchase products that are the least harmful to manufacture, there are certain things that just deter me from having an interest in, even if it is only crazy statements.


Drewbacca
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“Its not cool to buy a bike from a guy because he doesn’t like your politics and you don’t like his and he told you about. I see now.”

Glad that you get it, even if you are putting words in my mouth… who said that political stance was the only determining factor? If you really want to discuss shoes, start a new thread and I’ll meet you there.


cburch
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if he had a banner on his site proclaiming that the democrat’s policies were bad for the economy and encouraging people to vote republican, i wouldn’t have a problem with it. i’d disagree with him and if he started a conversation with me about it i’d happily debate him, but i would still buy a bike. the thing about this that rubs me the wrong way is that he is using his politics as a scapegoat for raising prices for whatever actual reason, wether due to rising costs or opportunistic spite. if he had just raised his prices and not said anything about it i doubt anyone would have even noticed.


Mick
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Part of the reason I ride a bike is that I do not like the political positions of oil companies. Sometimes the only vote you have is with your wallet.


AtLeastMyKidsLoveMe
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Why any business owner would engage in politics in such a confrontational way is beyond me. How could it possibly help your business to offend 50% of the market?


helen s
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I believe the recent percentage was just above 50%.


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I agree with Mick. I view each of my dollars as votes. I’d also guess they are more powerful than any of my votes for politicians have been.


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For the record, I can’t buy a bike from that guy. I just don’t care for the “war on coal” people much. No interest in calling him. Good luck to him though, as blind as he might be.


Eric Lundgren
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Drewbacca sorry for that last comment it was too much.

I do think that builder making that comment is dumb if he wants democrats business but I would bet he doesn’t want your business and is fine with that.

People have the right to not buy his bikes.

I think comments like that are what is wrong with our political system and maybe even our country.

I also think comments like “There are political views that people hold that are outright harmful to others.. And bullshit.” and “BS should not be used to gouge customers on price just because he is angry about election results.” are part of the problem. How is his political view harmful to people? How do you know he is gougeing customers at all and not just raising prices because of costs that he incurs?

That builder being completely intollerant of democrats is ridiculous but people on this board having a knee jerk reaction to that and making statements like the ones about is ridiculous as well.

Here is a radio show from this american life about this

http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/478/red-state-blue-state

People need to hear all sides and not completely write people off before they hear the whole story. That goes for all sides republicans democrats liberterains and whoever else.


jonawebb
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Does anybody know this guy well enough to ask him why he put that on his website? We’re all guessing it’s because of health insurance but I can’t get the numbers to work right in my head. So far, at least, Obamacare’s impact on health insurance has been minimal, I think, and I’ll bet that as a small employer he will see little to no impact in the long run. But maybe there’s a little known tax on lugs or something like that that he’s objecting to.


edmonds59
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I don’t have any issue with him putting it on his website, that’s his business.

Neither do I have a problem with folks ridiculing the shit out of it either. As someone said, he put it out there…

I actually don’t have a problem with ridiculing the shit out of just about anything. This is ‘murica! (sadly the Brits still do it better).

I kind of prefer knowing his stance. I am not and will never realistically be in a position to have him do a frame, so saying I would not buy a frame due to this is pointless. But it is the sort of thing that would make a difference to me. Even apart from his wacky “God…” yadayada that he’s always had up.

I did dig the Circle A Cycles website, thx for that.


rice rocket
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He has enough bike orders to fund him well into retirement.

He doesn’t care what you think.


edmonds59
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If he truly does not care what people think why bother to put up a blurb like that?

Or maybe it’s just a whiney little mini-tantrum? Yeah, I think that’s it.


Eric Lundgren
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I’m pretty sure Rice Rocket still thinks we are talking about RIchard Sachs.


edmonds59
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I have other questions about Richard Sachs.

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