Message Board Updates and Constructive Ideas
My guess is cheaper web hosting. I had the option with my web site to buy faster server response time for more $$$. Wasn’t worth it for me. May have been worth it for bike PGH but they may not have the funds to do this and everything else. Hence the volunteer web developer, etc. My guess is that is an in kind donation with the advertisement on the bike PGH website.
My superpowers are not as strong as Eric Boerer’s. He is able to block users.
Somebody give the man the power! While BikePGH may not care whether the forum dies, at least give the ability to police the board to someone who does.
Constructive idea: How can we use the msg-bd to gauge increased cycling by new riders, new to Pittsburgh riders, and riders who’ve ramped up the amount they bike in and around the city?
The heyday of this board was 2009-2013. Various things happened then. The rise of Facebook and other alternatives, a badly rolled out change to the board’s software, and the natural change of faces as people move on with their lives. Meh. Water over the dam, no need to rehash.
Instead, focus on what got people riding, talking, sharing ideas. We had games, like Tag-o-Rama, but also Wheelset Of Fortune, and a scavenger hunt to seek out the hundreds of protractors that got glued up all over the city. I, for one, had time on my hands or made time, to check out all these possibilities.
Second, we had well attended group rides. Some of the last pre-Flock Critical Mass rides got 150 or more riders. Tweed Rides, the Bridesmaid Dress ride, a couple of swimsuit rides, Midnight Mass, other night rides where we’d end up having pancakes at Ritter’s at 3:30 a.m. Today’s Underwear Rides still draw big crowds, so I know the interest is out there.
What’s next? I think this is more a question for the greater Bike-Pgh organization than the handful of die-hard MB participants. Do we even have a community anymore, and if not why not?
Blame it on Trump or George Wallace…
I didn’t see any ideas…constructive or not…only questions…??? which was sort of answered…the MB is kinda dead..and you would like it to be the center of pgh bike culture, etc…
advertise, advertise, advertise… a BikePgh app might help… a additional platforms…say FB or twitter… offer free food and sex… have a contest… offer free sex …start ’em young by talking in the schools about biking and etc… get the idea? …oh yea, did I mention, offer fr…
And really, the MB is poorly designed, even for its heyday…difficult to use…hard to logon, difficult to navigate, etc … no kindergardener would put up with the ui… only a few hacks from the old times nostalgically put up with it…while waiting the mills and penny farthings to come back… well, at least, banna bikes…
I wish the default option…or at least an option…was to receuve all threads on the MB…or at least subscribed threads and NEW threads…then one could unsubscribe to new threads not interested in.
Unless one accesses the board often, new threads, and the info therein, are lost…
Also, when one has an item to post, please see if it fits into a more generic existing thread or create it as more generic name.
This is most inconvenient in reporting stolen bikes. (Such a post added today) I recall a Stolen Bike thread…I subscribed to it…but no one uses it…and when I happen to peruse the thread, I may find an old lost.stolen bike notice…too late for me to do anything about it.
When you create a thread: Aunt Mollie’s Green Trek with Caterpillar Horn Stolen …
…it creates an unnecessary thread ..overloading the MB… Think filesystem…
This may also contribute to the dtsfunctionality of the MB.
the web developer for bikepgh is/was a volunteer and it’s unclear if there is any maintenance done anytime, anymore. Me thinks that what we have now is what we’re going to have in the foreseeable future.
Methinks everyone reading this thinks they know the state of the MB what-it-is… This thread us for constructive ideas…for that time that when some attention us given to improving the state….and, indeed, someone reading this thread may just be motivated, after seeing all the clear and thoughtful ideas presented here, to step up to clean house…no doubt prompting backlash on fixing-something-that-isn’t-broken…the nature 1A.
And of course there are comments about USER BEHAVIOR that can be changed now…which was the main point of my comnent.
I am trying to think of something constructive to say about being prompted for full login and completing the identify-all-the-fire-hydrants challenges every six hours, but I am at a loss. We’re still getting spam posts, so all this tightened security isn’t getting the job done.
It’s obvious bike Pittsburgh doesn’t care about this message board. I see it like an old truck. Pieces fall off as you drive it down the road and no one is paying to repair it.
I emailed them weeks ago about the popup message. No response, no fix.
This message board has about 10 active users and not one is a bike pgh employee/worker/volunteer.
Eric, I work for Bike Pittsburgh part time. But I rarely go to the office, and hold no sway there.
Has anyone tried telephone calls? Or is that too old school. Or maybe even trying to speak with someone face to face (no, no face time)?
As a member driven advocacy organization bike pgh should be responsive to their constituency via reasonable communication channels. Email is listed on the contact page. Therefore they should read and respond to them.
not only was the most recent spam post taken down, but Stu’s request to have the spam post taken down was also taken down…
and in it’s place — another spam post.
the neglected message board rolls on, wearily.
the taking-down, that was me. my role as a volunteer spam-flagger/moderator…
Another spammer, this time selling ammunition, but it took 10-15 tries to get past the fraudcatcher. Dammit, this is irritating.
We can complain all we want. My sense is that the board maintenance has been depreciated by bikepgh. So this is the best we got.
Has there been some activity on Meesage Board development? I’ve noticed a couple changes… I think…like, I’m not outed: logged-out/ttimed-outobce I jump through all the hoops to get (it) on… and when accessing a thread, I’m appropriately taken to the end, rather than the beginning, of the thread…
Or is it my imagination?
My sense is this message board has become vestigial, and BikePgh values social media – particularly facebook as their primary means of engagement and community.
Although I and many of you seem to appreciate the back-and-forth this medium allows, it seems we are a dwindling few.
Strikes me that this message board and its functions ought to be taken with a few grains of salt, especially considering Bike Pgh is a pretty lean operation and it appears the moderators here are volunteers.
My expectation is one day before too long, this message board will simply cease. Until then, let’s cut these folks some slack, because i’m pretty sure its only still up for the half dozen or so of us regulars.
- This reply was modified 7 months, 3 weeks ago by AtLeastMyKidsLoveMe.
@atleastmykidsloveme‘s analysis may be accurate. The few users here remind me of Usenet using Luddites….
- Are postings on the MB getting appropriate visibility?
- Is it worth one’s time to post here?
- Can a more functional MB mechanism be resurrected on FB or other, more used, social media, etc. via BikePgh or separately..?
- To this end maybe create a new thread (or here) to design/define/redefine/ refine/… the functional/user requirements for a MB for the biking community…
For example, the proliferation of new “single-use” threads (e.g. Stolen XYZ Abcdef bike off Joe’s Porch)…rather than a single Stolen Bike thread… is communicationally problematic to me as it requires constant MB monitoring rather than relying on email notifications…imo… ..
…my time us up here…especially since..maybe 6 people will read this
Maybe it’s already too late, but we need to come up with an alternative to the message board. It’s not being maintained, has disappeared from the front page of the BikePgh website. It’s on its last legs.
Facebook works well for events, but I’d like something where we could offer advice and play games.
My only suggestion short of having someone setup their own board, is to just use the pittsburgh cycling subreddit, as it already exists and doesn’t require a lot of effort to maintain. I have no idea who mods there though. Of course, who knows what will happen with a big corp like that…
That makes sense to me. The bicycling412 Reddit is kind of inactive, but could easily replace this, and I’ll bet people will be able to find it. Can we create a subgroup for Tag-o-Rama? Can we post photos there?
Hrm. I didn’t think about the tag-o-rama, would probably need a differnt style, and probably a separate subreddit. Realistically, since threads “time out” and get archived eventually (no more posting), and you can’t do images within a reply on a post (only in the original post).
It would really not be ideal for that. Reddit Definitely works differently than the traditional message board. Might actually be a bit challenging for the way a lot of the threads are used on here… So, not sure it would be optimal, but I figured it was worth a mention.
Maybe taking TOR out of the message board altogether would be necessary?
Could Tag O Rama make a facebook page, and play the game via facebook?
(*don’t mean to stir anything up, and this is not any sort of editorializing, and I don’t play TOR, but it just seemed an odd fit to host the game on an MB like this, and maybe fb would be a cleaner and better fit?)
FYI I created a subreddit for this, see https://www.reddit.com/r/PghTagorama/
It seems to work better than the MB for posting photos etc.
Although I ratrely come here now, I really like the message board. Next time I give money to Bike-Pgh, I will ask that it be directed to the MB. Maybe that will make a difference?
I don’t do Facebook. I resent it when public events slide into being Facebook events, where you need FB to find out how to participate..
There were a few informal discussions at the annual meeting last night about the message board. There are at least a few staff members who read it, and said they would bring up the topic of visibility and usability at a future staff meeting. Is there hope?
Now if it starts getting more use, everyone needs to remember to play nice. That seemed to be a problem a few years ago.
There was an anual meeting last night? Of the membership? And no thread here? <eye roll>
I knew about the meeting, but not through Facebook. They sent emails.
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