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StuInMcCandless
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Milled shoulder on McKnight Rd

Milled shoulders are literally a PITA to ride on. McKnight Road recently got some work done, and they added SNAP (Sonic Nap Alert Pattern) milling to the southbound side just south of Perrymont. There’s a fairly wide shoulder here, but not that wide, and these end up forcing me to choose between the gravel and glass at shoulder’s edge, or being in the right-most lane, which means taking the lane.

Perhaps swalfoort would care to comment on this, but I thought these were not supposed to go in on certain roads or in certain situations.


jonawebb
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Honestly, I don’t like riding on them either, but I’d rather have them than cars driving into buildings etc. (see thread).

I would just ride on the shoulder crap and deal with the flats as necessary.


StuInMcCandless
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That’s not acceptable.

My question is more about process. Should these even be here? Who decides where these go?

I’m less concerned with the ones in the middle of the road, but the edge ones are a hazard to bicyclists.

I don’t want to risk a flat — and a potential at-speed blowout in heave traffic like McKnight — because motorists are too stupid to pull over and take a nap.


edmonds59
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“…I thought these were not supposed to go in on certain roads or in certain situations.”

That was my understanding as well. Personally I don’t think they belong anywhere, they’re a stupid solution to a problem that shouldn’t be a problem. And they can make a ride on an otherwise lovely rural road, horrible.

“I don’t want to risk a flat — and a potential at-speed blowout in heave traffic like McKnight — because motorists are too stupid to pull over and take a nap.” Plus that.


melange396
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maybe youll get lucky and the grooves will catch the debris and keep it off the rest of the shoulder.

slightly OT: how about putting these right on the bike lane borders to discourage cars from veering into our space?


buffalo buffalo
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> how about putting these right on the bike lane borders to discourage cars from veering into our space?

Ugh. Even worse than on a place like McKnight, imo.

I ride Liberty through Bloomfield most mornings–and am in and out of the bike lane every other block dodging badly parked cars, buses that only half pull over, giant potholes (Liberty’s pavement is somehow worse in the bike lane than the car lane in many places), and the usual detritus of city life. If I had to deal with those grooves–which are basically a lower-speed version of a freeway shoulder alarm–on top of the potholes … I’d probably go back to taking the bus.


pinky
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I really wonder about the decision making here. Who the heck is falling asleep on McKnight Road?

I can understand these things on interstates, but it seems crazy to put them on a giant multi-lane commercial district road.


John
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Also, who decided to put in rumble strips on the short stretch of Pierce Mill between the edge of North Park and Rt. 910? It’s not even a mile long, and no other part of Pierce Mill has them.

You can’t really ride on the shoulder southbound because it’s falling down the hillside. This is on my way home from work, and it drives me nuts.


pinky
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Yes, that’s another bad spot for them. Again, were so many people driving off the road there that it was thought to be necessary?

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