Motorcycle Bike Rack

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Nick D
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From BikeHacks.com:

This one was linked in the comments:

I think I am going to build one of these…


Nick D
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brian j
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Here’s another one (source image is HUGE).

Eric, did you ever hook a rack up to your moto?


Jason
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I built this one a few years ago:

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It hooks onto a jessie rack and quick releases in a few seconds so that the hard bag can go back on.

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cburch
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If I get a motorcycle this fall I’m going to need one that can hold a downhill bike.


Nick D
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Will Stef let you get a bike?


stefb
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No.


that guy
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Eric from Dirt Rag has one, not sure the make/model though. I’ll bug him about it.


cburch
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yes. she already said yes and can not take it back now.


ejwme
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you two are too cute.

I tried to talk my husband into letting me get a Vespa or something similar to putter around on instead of the car. His repsonse was that he still loves me even though I’m such a Eurodork, and likes being married to me too much to say yes.

Thing is, I rode on a motorcycle once with a friend, and never got the courage to open my eyes. Wouldn’t work if I was driving.


brian j
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Jen isn’t fully sold on the scooter yet, though she does use it when the kids aren’t in tow. I wish she’d ride it more, so I can then pitch an upgrade to something like this.


edmonds59
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bjanaszek, that cb160 is freaking awe some. Gives me lust. And in Portland. One more reason for me to hate and envy Portland.

Rack-wise, I like photo #2 the best, the Kaw with the mtn bike, because it reduces the volume of the bike the most. But still there has to be a better way to do that.

The rest I am unimpressed with.

ejwme, passengering on a motorcycle is scarier and takes much more guts than actually riding one.


ejwme
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edmonds – really? I suppose I could use that to make me appear less chicken, but I still think I was meant for a slower paced world. I’m a putterer at heart.

I am surprised that there’s no widely commercially available motorcycle bike rack solution – motorcycles seem to garner as much or more obsession and hobby budget as bicycles, pointing to an obvious if niche market.


ejwme
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speak of the devil, sometimes i wonder if he lurks here… Husband just asked what I thought of this: http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/products/modelhome/151/0/home.aspx

I think it is a scooter, about which I know nothing. What do you people who know so much more than me think of it?


brian j
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Dunno much about those Yamahas, but keep your eyes on Craigslist for used Honda Metropolitans. Hard to go wrong with those. Sometimes Vespas come up, too, with reasonable price tags.


John
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From what I’ve heard 50cc scooters are ok on city streets but a bit underpowered for main suburban roads. 125cc is enough unless you want to get on the freeway.


salty
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so I guess the moral of the story is if the wife has given me a greenlight to buy a bike I should go do it before she changes her mind?

although, by “bike” I probably mean “Vespa”. I might even put hot pink pedals on it.


edmonds59
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ej, it’s a Zuma, which are very cool. Basically a scooter with slightly broader mission, street legal, but it has fat, wide tires so they can do a little light off-roading, fire roads and trails and such. Plenty o fun.

They can be had with a 50cc two stroke engine (think, weed-whacker), or a 125cc four stroke engine. Wouldn’t advise much use in traffic with the 50.

I <3 Yammies.

The last couple of years, every beat-down Vespa (I mean the real Italian ones) I’ve seen for sale has been vastly overpriced, because they’ve been “hot”.


HoffmannJ
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@ejwme Funny, I have a 2009 Zuma of the 125cc, four-stroke variety. It’s great for getting around the city, though it tops out around 55mph. Very easy to ride, reliable so far, and a lot of fun, though I prefer shifting gears myself (it has a CVT transmission, so no clutch or shifter). I got it used off craigslist for a song. Any questions about it in particular?


edmonds59
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Just for kicks I’ll reveal a dirty little secret, my playhouse,,,I mean, garage;

The only thing I don’t use there is the golf clubs, those are not mine.


cburch
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i’m going to get stef a scooter when i get a bike…


brian j
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I have a 50cc Honda Met. It is absolutely fine in the city. It accelerates quickly enough, aside from steep hills.

In the ‘burbs, it isn’t as great. I’ve ridden most of the way out Frankstown Road, and that wasn’t as bad as I thought. As long as the speed limit is under 40mph, you’re good to go.

If I can’t convince Jen that a motorcycle would be a good idea, we’ll probably upsize to a Vespa with a 150cc engine.

An advantage of the little weed whackers is that you don’t need a motorcycle license to drive one.


brian j
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Edmonds, your garage reminds me of something I saw on the ride home yesterday: an old Mercedes utility van, doing double duty as a camper van, with three bikes and a moped on the rear hitch rack, and a moto in the van.


edmonds59
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He, he, my kinda people.


ejwme
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Well, with the scooters, I’m not sure how much use it would get if it didn’t hit 45mph – couldn’t ride it to work, and even hubby couldn’t take it to kung fu (ARB stands between him and the school). It’s like a fast bicycle, so maybe groceries, yoga, trips into town on roads I’d normally bike on.

If it goes 45 or faster, it’s requiring a motorcycle license and I believe exceeds my comfort levels for myself and hubby (who probably would do just fine, I just *REALLY* like him still). That’s one of the appeals of a bike – I stay at speeds that I’m comfortable going.

Aside from the major question of if and where I’d ride it, I think the biggest answerable questions would be storage space and passanger capacity. Does adding a passanger mean that the previous top speed of 30mph is now 15 mph? And does it have at least as much carrying capacity as my panniers?


ejwme
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Oh – and I just realized something funny. I’m writing off a moped with a top speed of 35 because the speed limit on roads I’d take it is 45, but I am willing and able and consider it perfectly normal to ride a bike on said roads. The irony isn’t lost, it just got misplaced for a sec.


brian j
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My Met probably could take a passenger, but it would seriously lower the speeds. I don’t think it’s really built for it.

I can, however, carry stuff. Often, I’ve been using it on the weekends to do food shopping. There’s a fairly large compartment under the seat, plus a small rear rack, plus space between my feet. Combined with a backpack, I can manage the week’s groceries for a family of four without too much trouble. And I don’t even have to hang bags from the handlebars :-)


Lou M.
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I don’t believe a motorcycle license has anything to do with speed. I believe the requirement is that anything over 50cc is considered a motorcycle.

I have a Vespa but only really use it around town as I have no needs to head out to the burbs.


edmonds59
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ej, you have somehow intuitively zeroed in on a key crux of the matter – the range/speed/capabilities of a small scooter are really not a great enough leap from a fast bicycle to be useful, to be honest. Unless someone just likes scooters. Throw in the necesities of gas, licensing, maintenance, and sometimes just getting the dang thing to run – if I really had to make a call, a nice elec assist cargo bike might actually be more functional, maybe, I haven’t tried one of those. No offense to scooter users.


ejwme
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Lou – you’re right, it’s not speed, but nothing under 50cc (by my super cursory search) will go much over 40mph.

edmonds – the thing that’s kept me from a bike assist is the range too, and that “but when I run out of juice that’s the equivalent of a small toddler in extra weight to haul around but isn’t nearly as cute” factor. Maybe half a small toddler, but still. Everything keeps pointing me back to “but I could, and would, do that on a bicycle”


brian j
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Range issues, you say? What stinking range issues?

No offense taken :-)

Hindsight being 20-20 and all, if you’re getting motorized two wheel transport, a 150cc scooter seems to be the way to go.


Lou M.
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On a scooter gas is a minimum…I push 70 mpg and as far as registration and inspection that is maybe 50 bucks a year. Maintainence is usually at a minimum too…well that is unless you have a 2 stroke Vespa like mine, but I am pretty mechanically inclined so I guess I don’t ever worry about it. Newer models are pretty reliable. To be honest you don’t have to think about them much.


ejwme
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Oh, I have no doubt much is possible on a scooter – I harbor a dream of riding my bike with my little family (trailer for the pup and cats, hubby and trailer for our minimalist “stuff”) as we relocate to the PNW across the country. I know we could do it (and really hope we get to). That is very different from the daily requirements I’ve whined WAY too many times about to rehash. I bore MYSELF, so you guys must want to smack me.

>50cc is motorcycle-ish territory, and maybe the most sensible choice if we move in that direction, since <50cc seems to be bicycle equivalent and we already have and use those :D


HoffmannJ
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@ej The 125 I have can handle 40-45 with a passenger, no problem. (Your passenger must then also be willing to go 45, however).It probably drops the top speed to around 50, and less on hills, though.

It still is a limiting factor, and you do need the M license to ride it.


edmonds59
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Ok, then, here’s what you need, a Piaggio MP3 250. because

a. it’s awesome

b. it’s a lot different from a bicycle

c. the other engineer nerds at your company will worship you

d. it’s awesome

That’s my advice.


Lou M.
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edmonds59
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Oh, that’s low profile. :D

I can just see coming out of a turn on one back wheel.

I may need one.


Nate
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I’ve always like the idea of scooters but as edmonds says, I just can’t figure out when I would really use it over a bicycle. The 150cc threshold sounds sensible. I can imagine some work commutes (>10 miles and/or faster roads maybe) where it would make sense.


salty
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Yeah, I had no idea about the 50cc thing until a few weeks ago and if the scooter shop wasn’t closed on Sunday I probably would have run out and bought one. But, I’ve since decided 150cc is a better idea and just haven’t had a chance to go get my permit.

I’ve been debating selling my car for a long time, and I think replacing it with a scooter will allow me to do it. Sometimes I just don’t feel like riding my bicycle – or probably more to the point I can’t convince my wife to bicycle. So, the scooter would be good for those situations. I’m hoping the maintenance is cheaper than a car and that it’s easier to park. Plus it will free up some space in my garage for bicycles so I don’t have to keep them in the basement. :)


edmonds59
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Salty – if you go that route, get a big kryptonite u lock for that too, people f with scooters. And at night, lock it to an immovable object.

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