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buffalo buffalo
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Also note that Fifth Ave from Kirkpatrick/Birmingham Bridge up to Miltenberger (just past the crest), Penn Ave from 31st to 26th in the Strip, and Liberty Ave from 12th to 21st in the Strip, are all due to be milled and paved this week.

(Work on Fifth and Liberty is scheduled to be done at night, btw.)


Eric
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Wonder if centre will be re concreted or end up asphalt?


chrishent
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@edronline, ideally, it would be concrete, but I don’t think the city usually does anything more than milling and asphalting. Same goes for Liberty Ave and Sixth Ave downtown, which are scheduled for later this year (and got postponed last year so Comcast could do utility work). Those two have heavy bus traffic and should be torn up and repaved with concrete, but I doubt they will. Asphalt is cheaper and faster.


Eric
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Concrete lasts longer but when it goes the seams are perfectly aligned with where bikes ride. And open seams don’t bother cars, which is one of the reasons centre could be crap for so long.

Also with concrete need to rip out entire road to base whereas with asphalt you can mill and replace a few times before ripping it down to base.

 

I guess you are right re the asphalt.  Didn’t think about bus traffic being better on concrete.

 

Then again, if they can do it cheaper and thus do more lane miles this year, I’m all for that.


Steven
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Sixth Avenue’s been torn up by Comcast recently between Wood and Smithfield, and they (or somebody) just put in brand new concrete for the torn-up section, about half a lane wide from Wood to around Coffey Way (as of a few days ago). No idea if that means they’ll be doing more concrete repairs.

The list says “Kirkpatrick to Mittenberger [sic] (Mechanical Patching from Jumonville to Mittenberger)”. How is mechanical patching different from regular patching? (I think I’ll start referring to Miltenberger as Mittenberger too. Pittsburgh has many amusing street names already, but no reason we can’t improve them.)


Eric
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I think mechanical patching uses something like this —
http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2012-08/mechanical-road-crew-filling-potholes-quickly-and-cheaply
So it patches the potholes, but does so more “professionally” and with longer-lasting results than by hand, would be my guess.


zzwergel
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Penn Ave. should be paved from 31st St. to 22nd St. and between Shady Ave. and Centre Ave. 5th Ave from Kirkpatrick St. to Magee St., and Forbes Ave. from Armstrong Tunnel to Birmingham Bridge. Miltenberger St. Between 5th Ave and Forbes Ave is pretty bad as well.


Eric
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Supposedly the city has evaluated, cataloged, and assigned a grade to all stretches of road in the city and is using their finite pot of paving money yearly to do the worst streets while making sure the money is spread out throughout all city council districts.

 

So, I think pgh is doing the best they can.  The very lean years led to the city not doing enough road maintenance to just break even with the road breakdown. Peduto and council have been trying to do the break even point plus extra to make up ground.

 

Could they do more?  Sure. But that would mean cutting somewhere else or raising taxes.

 

You can always 311 these stretches and maybe they’d come patch some potholes to make them smoother.


Eric
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http://pittsburghpa.gov/dpw/asphalt-paving

 

http://pittsburghpa.gov/dpw/street-paving-program

 

Unfortunately the link is broken to the paving management system.

 

Also within the last year pgh started coordinating with other agencies to avoid the conflicting dig up the street for scheduled utility work right after freshly paving a street.

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Benzo
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I’m wondering, is Pittsburgh still using the Roadmixer mobile asphalt plant? They said it was on lease with option to buy in 2015.

http://www.wpxi.com/news/local/pittsburgh-debuts-mobile-asphalt-machine_nkt27/46284053


Eric
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Parking lot under Birmingham bridge closed and they are milling the crap out of the road today.  Trail section is open.


chrishent
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This is a good project for cyclists. The stretch of road between the parking lot and the train tracks was in bad shape. Also, hopefully they’ll fix the road drainage there, too. The inbound lane along the dog park tends to puddle up.


Eric
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This is the yucky part of the trail. With some bicycle sized pot holes. Hopefully they will fix that too but I don’t think that is included in the project.

 

Pretty sure I saw that monster milling machine there today.


mjacobPGH
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To answer a few questions:

The city does perform concrete slab replacement and will be doing that in some places this year. I’m not sure exactly where but can find out. However, it is indeed much more expensive than asphalt and many concrete streets will just have an overlay performed. Some roads are so bad that concrete repairs have to be made before an overlay of asphalt can even be performed.

The city does not use the Road Mixer anymore.

The city uses Cartegraph OMS for pavement management. Cartegraph was also contracted to do an objective assessment of all city-owned asphalt and concrete streets. That info is now being used to help make paving decisions. http://www.cartegraph.com/cartegraph-oms/

Hopefully a map of all DPW projects will be up soon. The DPW list does not include paving being performed by utility companies so there is really a lot more resurfacing that will happen aside from what is listed. Also, there is brick and block stone repair that is not included on that list. In addition, if projects come in under budget (which does happen) more streets will get added in.

 


Eric
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Thanks for the info!!!

 

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Some roads are so bad that concrete repairs have to be made before an overlay of asphalt can even be performed.

Does this mean that for concrete streets, even if they were going to be paved over with asphalt instead of redone with concrete, that the base concrete will need to be repaired (with concrete) before asphalt can be put over the top?


chrishent
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Some roads are so bad that concrete repairs have to be made before an overlay of asphalt can even be performed.

Liberty Ave in downtown falls into this category, I think. You can see how some of the concrete slabs have buckled and split into two or more pieces. Milling and asphalt won’t cut it there.


mjacobPGH
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Yes, depending on the condition of the street, the base concrete would have to be repaired with concrete to some extent before an overlay of asphalt could be performed.


chrishent
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City finds an additional $1 million for paving streets this year:

http://triblive.com/local/allegheny/12330129-74/pittsburgh-finds-extra-1m-for-street-repairs


chrishent
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The city releases list of paving projects for 2018:

http://apps.pittsburghpa.gov/redtail/images/2314_Council_Paving_List_2018.pdf

The list also breaks up which projects are being coordinated with utility work. Progress!


Benzo
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Also, showing 5 year patching/sealing maintenance on roads which were paved previously so they may actually last longer!

Also, map link here:
http://pittsburghpa.gov/domi/street-resurfacing/paving-schedule-map.html


StuInMcCandless
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Mount Royal is not on that list. Have you ever tried to drive up it off of East? It’s a moonscape.


Eric
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which Mt royal? Mt royal in sq hill is a small street. Mt royal Blvd isn’t in city limits.


StuInMcCandless
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Sorry, Mount Pleasant Rd, which runs off East St. I’m getting it confused with Royal St which runs the same direction off East, a bit south of that.


chrishent
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Among the more relevant paving projects for cyclists (i.e. roads that have bike infrastructure), so far I’ve seen the hill portion of Liberty Ave, a part of 40th St., a long chunk of Beechwood Blvd., and the remaining portion of East Liberty Blvd. I’m also glad to see the hill part of Penn Ave, and Highland Ave north of Stanton Ave. being addressed.


neiltron
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What does Friendship Ave from Friendship Ave to Dryden Way mean?  Hopefully they mean from Dryden to Penn.  The intersection of Friendship and Choate Way is destroyed right now…


Eric
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the map shows Dryden to Penn but says it is “mechanical patching.”


StuInMcCandless
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Royal St is in just as bad a shape as Mt Pleasant. Old concrete surface, dating to the 1988 construction of 279, with all the chunks and holes from 30 years of use.

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