Public Hearing on Bike Parking Ordnance Sept 1!

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caitlin
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So you may already know about this if you see the bike-pgh home page and follow along, but I wanted to make a thread for the message board-only type folk….

This is an important meeting to attend if you have ever ridden to a new business (or old one!) and struggled to find a spot to securely lock your bike. It is held during the work day, but you can still send testimony to City Planning about it–just visit the bike-pgh home page and send one in.

Tuesday, Sept 1, 2:00 pm

John P. Robin Civic Building, 1st Floor

200 Ross Street, Pittsburgh PA


erok
Keymaster
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thanks caitlin.


caitlin
Participant
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ive nearly left several places this month alone because i couldnt find a damn bike lock up place. then again i kinda dont like parking on stop signs… other signs are okay but stop signs… no.


StuInMcCandless
Participant
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As I am between jobs at the moment, I will try to get to this.

caitlin, my preference is to find a “No Bicycle Riding In Parking Lot” sign and tie up there. *snicker*

Seriously, though, this ties in with what we’ve been trying to get across to Port Authority: That they (city, PAT, employers, whoever, wherever) need to provide A LOT more bike parking in the city. Like an order of magnitude more.


caitlin
Participant
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if you want to know, there is a sign like that on the north side, i think across from max’s, in the parking lot of the church. it also says something like NO PLAYING


erok
Keymaster
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Never again:


erok
Keymaster
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i didn’t set this shot up. it’s pretty commonplace on the weekends, and there were more bikes around back, seemingly employee’s bikes


netviln
Participant
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Not that I dont think the place with the mediocre german style beer should have bike parking, but there are 3 parking garages within maybe 300 yards that all have parking.

I do wish REI would get rid of that new rack they got tho, that thing is terrible.


Lyle
Participant
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I wasn’t anticipating an explosive meeting.


erok
Keymaster
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it won’t be explosive


caitlin
Participant
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meetings like this are fun you should come.


caitlin
Participant
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put some photos up of all the bikes at three rivers arts fest without racks.


rsprake
Participant
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It’s amazing to me that any new business along these trails of ours wouldn’t think to install a bike rack or two.

I have on that I took outside of Bettis Grill. At least 12 bikes locked up to various metal, no racks.


StuInMcCandless
Participant
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Can we come up with a solid number of the number of bike tie-ups we would need, Downtown and elsewhere in the city? SWAG for starters: 1,000 for Downtown, maybe 250 each in SSideFlats, Forbes/Craig area, Forbes/Atwood area, 21st/Penn area, Lawrenceville, Bloomfield, Forbes/Murray, and a few more areas. Maybe double that. Maybe 250 in PtStPk alone.

Do we have reliable estimates?

I’d also like to see security addressed as part of this. I’d like not to have to haul around a boat anchor chain everyplace I go.


Lyle
Participant
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it was a joke. never explain…

on-topic — I was disappointed to see the city had removed the bike rack from the steps of the city-county building a few months back. It was one of my favorites: covered and in plain view of a security camera.


erok
Keymaster
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yeah, they took that out for some event, then never put it back.


erok
Keymaster
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stu, you should read the proposed draft if you haven’t yet.

this isn’t supposed to be an all encompassing neighborhood rack program. it is merely writing the page to the zoning code so that new and renovated buildings would need to install racks. there’s recommendations on where they should be placed as well


Lyle
Participant
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I didn’t see how extensive a renovation must be to trigger this provision. Maybe it’s in another part of the zoning code.


erok
Keymaster
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i believe, and i could be wrong, but if it’s a change in use. for instance, if it goes from an office to a retail establishment.


dwillen
Participant
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Erok,

RE: your photo in front of BST3… It still looks exactly like that, every single day.. only with a bike rack full of bikes in the background. The rack fills up by 9am, and people still lock to the trees. I don’t even bother, and lock up 8 blocks away.

The folks here didn’t even reply to my request for additional parking. *shrug*


caitlin
Participant
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out of curiosity, who wil enforce this in city planning, stephen? is he full time not a contract paid employee who can enforce? becauase the urban forester in planning is techinically contracted and grant funded, so she can;t enforce/cite people, and it sucks in some situations. i mean all plans for buildings go through there, but some things just don’t happen (ie the new tree pits in bakery square are not up to city code…)

just wonderin’


Swalfoort
Participant
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Steel Plaza needs a bike rack too. 12 bikes parked there on Friday afternoon, all attached to trees/furniture along Grant between Sixth and Seventh.


erok
Keymaster
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@caitlin

i believe that planning would need to approve any plans, and then BBI would be there to enforce.


caitlin
Participant
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oh, the BBI. I’ll with hold my jokes.

Turns out i am not going to make this in person, but I will be sure to send on the testimony in written form… can i still do that?


erok
Keymaster
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i don’t see why not


erok
Keymaster
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salty
Participant
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Excellent work!

Maybe I should wait for it to fully pass to say this, but I love the little “trojan horse” aspect that lets developers “cheat the system” – by building more bike parking. I expect to get a good laugh at an angry letter to the editor about that someday!

Some testified that the ordinance can make it easier for development because many older building in the city are so densely packed that they physically cannot include the required automobile parking without obtaining a variance, thus making them difficult or unable to be developed. Installing bicycle parking spaces in lieu of automobile parking spaces can actually make it easier, and cheaper for a developer.


gimpPAC
Participant
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Woo! Great that it passed unanimously. I will send my councilperson an extra note reminding them to support passage of this ordinance when it gets to that stage of the game.

Really, if this meeting is any indication, I just don’t see too many people opposing this law except wackos with nothing better to do. It’s a modest proposal that will make a world of a difference.


rsprake
Participant
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Well done.


Lou F.
Participant
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It was really incredible to be at this hearing and see the support for the ordinance and then watch it pass unanimously!

Some of the panel members were as enthusiastic as the community members.


scott@eastendbrewing
Participant
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Nicely done, and very encouraging too! Maybe the future of bike parking in Pittsburgh will look very different someday…


erok
Keymaster
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hey, this will be going to council soon. the date still isn’t set.

anyway, feel free to email council about it using this handy dandy form:

http://bike-pgh.org/2009/10/action-alert-contact-your-councilperson-and-tell-them-to-vote-for-more-bike-parking/


brian j
Participant
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If you live/work in District 7, tell Councilman Dowd (or his staff) directly at the Council to Go session on 28 October at Morning Glory in Morningside.


erok
Keymaster
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have you been to one of those? what a good idea


ieverhart
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erok
Keymaster
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so this is coming up to city council on feb 9. i’ll post more details soon.

in the meantime, kqv has a poll about it today. go on there and vote yes!

http://www.kqv.com/


erok
Keymaster
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ha ha. we went from 70% against and 30% for to just about 50/50 in about an hour. it went from 505 votes to 983 votes in that time


erok
Keymaster
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and the cyclists take the lead. only 10 minutes left to cast your vote!


dwillen
Participant
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I thought the thing was broken, but I guess it cuts you off after you vote 8 times. Odd.


StuInMcCandless
Participant
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Looks like the online version went 58/42 yes. Haven’t had the radio on to find out the phone-in version’s results.

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