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gg
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@paul
I really didn’t mention murder rates etc. as some result of broken window. Others may claim this and that, but my positive response regarding broken window has much more to do with enjoying a city. As I stated, I was so tired of being hassled by hustlers in NYC, it was one big pain. Also, the city is cleaner and subways look so much better in all areas of the city. Those are big positives for those living there and visiting. As far as crime rates, that was a long term trend that has a lot of reasons attached. I like broken window and am not sure why anyone wouldn’t? Don’t people want to live in a nicer place without getting hassled all the time and seeing hookers on every corner?

@jon
I completely agree. The war on drugs is one big joke. It needs to be treated like more like smoking. Education, places to get your fix, so you aren’t killed doing so and hopefully programs to get people off all these drugs. I asked a prominent criminal attorney here in Pittsburgh what percentage of the population in prison had drugs involved in some way. He said about 90%. That is failure in our policies. One thing for sure, kids need to be very busy growing up to keep them out of trouble. They need more mentoring and gyms open late at night so they can be active in good things, not just hanging out with nothing to do.


Pierce
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“Don’t people want to live in a nicer place without getting hassled all the time”

Tell that to the minorities getting stopped by police every time they leave their house over the past decade or two


gg
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Pierce, I think you are thinking more about, “Stop, Ask and Frisk”.


StuInMcCandless
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About 18 months ago, I read an article which made the argument that the cause of the trouble in the 1970s through the early 1990s, which seemed to turn around on its own, was the direct result of removing lead from paint and gasoline in 1978. As the amount of lead in the environment decreased, so did the poisoning of our children, making its greatest impact by 15 years out, mid-1990s.


Ahlir
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Googling “Stop, Ask and Frisk” doesn’t work. It’s “Stop and Frisk” that comes up for the top n hits. “Stop Question and Frisk” does show up half way down the 2nd page, though the url is “nysenate.gov”. An interested party.

The reason the courts came out against it is very simple: The percentage of blacks who were stopped and were charged with an actionable offence was way lower than the percentage for whites. To spell it out: Blacks were stopped for apparently no other reason than they were black. Whites were stopped because there was some probable cause.

Interpolating “Ask” is an attempt to retroactively make it sound like a reasonable policy. It never was.


gg
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Sorry, it was Stop Question and Frisk. Everyone called it Stop and Frisk, but that is typical because no one wanted to believe the police would actually talk to people, they would just stop them and frisk them without asking any questions. Sure. I am not pro-cop, but I have been around long enough to know cops ALWAYS ask questions before frisking. Anyway the real policy was “Stop, Question and Frisk.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop-and-frisk_in_New_York_City


Pierce
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That’s great. When my constitutional rights are violated, asking me stupid questions that presume I’m guilty of a crime makes me feel a lot better. They had a quota system, which focused on minorities. I could care less that part of their routine was asking questions.


AtLeastMyKidsLoveMe
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“Constitutional rights…”

Such a quaint notion.

Here in ‘Merka, collective protection (i.e.: “national security”) trumps the individual and his rights; collective rights (i.e.: health care), however, are lampooned as “socialist”; and corporate rights (interests) were placed side by side with individuals by the Supreme Court – but only if that individual has deep, deep pockets (i.e.: cash to throw around come election time to influence the “democratic process”).

So “constitutional rights”? Seems like only one of those is inviolate anymore. But that’s a tangent for another thread.


jonawebb
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Remember that the courts overturned “Stop and Frisk”, or whatever you call it, eventually. Though not after a lot of people’s rights were violated.
If people fight back, and work together, we can win, eventually.
With Pittsburgh’s new mayor and police chief I sure hope that things will get better for the African-American community here. I don’t think it will happen smoothly, though.


Mick
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@ pierce
That’s great. When my constitutional rights are violated, asking me stupid questions that presume I’m guilty of a crime makes me feel a lot better

I always like a little foreplay before they do it to me, too.


TheNom
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If you all recall, the mandatory use of bike lanes when available in under 75 PA.C.S.,Chapter 35 Special Vehicles and Pedestrians was stricken from the books. They have tried that in PA and failed.

Heck, I can’t imagine using my moped on the sidewalks, but it’s legal (at least according to state law).

I have yet to take it up to the new bike lanes in pittsburgh yet, but seeing as pitts enforces state laws and im regulated as a bike (a properly registered motorized pedalcycle) I’ll at least enjoy the lack of harassing drivers. The only plus side is they cant say anything about not having plates :P

I’ll hope to see you guys up there! (I’ve since moved to canonsburg). Thankfully traffic/people around here are find with my little Tomos on the road :)

Cheers.

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