Seat Advice – HELP MY BUTT HURTS!

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Mick
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@cburch

mick, you really ought to just get bent!

Most of my riding is in traffic. I think I want the foot of so of elevation a crank-forward give me compared to the ‘bent.

Besides, I have the CF, although I don’t have it assembled yet.

Besides, I’m more of a crank than a bent.


reddan
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Most of my riding is in traffic. I think I want the foot of so of elevation a crank forward give me compared to the ‘bent.

Besides, you’re not allowed to ride a ‘bent. You’re clean-shaven and reasonably stylish.

That aside, keep in mind that many ‘bents put you above eye level with the driver of, say, your average sedan. “Not as high” isn’t synonymous with “not high enough.”

(Let’s avoid the easy jokes about ‘bent-riding hippies being high enough to ride in traffic…)


brian j
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RE: the McArdle post…has anyone done a study with, say, Tour winners and whether or not they have, uh, bedroom issues?

I suspect the data from the study mentioned in the article is affected by bike fit, or lack thereof. I suspect most bike cops don’t receive a bike fit (aside from “does this feel okay?”).


Mick
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@bjanaszek

Some guesses:

1) Most bike cops learn about fit and such within the first 5,000 miles, so this would not confound the studies too much.

2) There is more than enough steroid use in Tour de Dope winners to WAY override the average effects of seat shape, cancer, trauma, or, say, exposure to massive ionizing radiation.

I’m not saying they all juice. Maybe not even most. Enough to skew any sexual functioning stats, though.


Mick
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@ reddan Let’s avoid the easy jokes…

Oh man. Yer trying to take the fun out of it.


Chris Mayhew
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Good grief, I didn’t realize it was bike cops. How much extra weight from their utility belts alone.

That McArdle article is beyond ridiculous.


salty
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what do you mean? ms. mcardle clearly knows everything about everything and you’re just an idiot with a traditional seat. in fact, i get erectile dysfunction from just reading that article, but that could be thanks to her picture in the corner.


brian j
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@mick: Wait, what? PRO cyclists dope?


Mick
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@bjanaszek Wait, what? PRO cyclists dope?

Oh! Sorry. I just get caught up in these silly conspiracy theories. I’m sure it’s just my fertile imagination.

That would be way out there with, like, surfer dudes smoking pot or corporate execs evading taxes or something like that.


cburch
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you crank you.


Lyle
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bump.


AtLeastMyKidsLoveMe
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Nice to see you here Lyle.


Pierce
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On a related note, did old saddles just suck? While fixing up a mixie for my brother’s fiance I took a test ride and the saddle felt like riding on top of a mailbox

Then I took a closer look and found the seat was just a little bit of foam padding over metal

Granted, it was a cheapo Murry, but still


rsprake
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Old Brooks saddles didn’t suck. I think the cheapness probably had a lot more to do with it.


fungicyclist
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Old Brooks saddles don’t suck. Put about twenty more miles on my 39 yr. old B-15 yesterday. It did not suck.

On this matter I can assure you I am talking out of my butt.


Lyle
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Pierce
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Can’t keep your seat post up? Might have saddle problems:

(This story has been around for a while, but, alas, fits this thread)

“During his sleep, when he wore a monitor, the measure known as “percent of time erect” increased to 28 percent from 18 percent.”


Erica
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Just wanted to say that this thread inspired me to get a new saddle(mine was all torn up). I rode on it for less than one hour and it’s already changed my life.


Drewbacca
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“Just wanted to say that this thread inspired me to get a new saddle(mine was all torn up). I rode on it for less than one hour and it’s already changed my life.”

+1

I went with a new Terry Liberator and love it. I’ve also started work restoring my old Brooks saddle from the mid 70’s.


fungicyclist
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Headloss, I’ve successfully restored a few Brooks from that era or earlier, but am always open to learning more or doing it better. Could you document your approach and success in this thread, another or in a pm please?


Drewbacca
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@Fungi, Sure, I’ll start a thread and post some pictures (for better or for worse). I’ve already followed Sheldon’s advise and gave it a leather-conditioner bath in aluminum foil but that didn’t make it rideable (due to cracking). I’m going to try sanding it down with the car-seat advise here and if that works, i’ll put some saddle wax on it and try using leather cord to tighten it. I’ll be sure to document my success or failure LOL


fungicyclist
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Thanks, headloss.

Have you made use of the “tensioning bolt” in any manner?

How is it “not rideable”? Is the “cracking” irritating to your posterior? Are they small surface cracks or deeper and wider?

Interesting link. I had not considered that the “dye” itself could harden.


Drewbacca
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Deeper and irritating to the interior thigh. I had already determined that sanding would be necessary, which was how I stumbled upon that link. I haven’t touched the tensioning bolt, as a lot of people have suggested that the old leather will tear. That saddle came of of the Motobecane, which although garage kept, hasn’t really been maintained for most of its life (twenty years of CA summers and fifteen years of PA winters); I doubt it saw leather conditioner more than once or twice since the factory… on the plus side, I don’t think it saw many miles.

I was leaning towards writing off the saddle completely, or just restoring it enough to determine if I’d want to buy a Brooks in the future. The *butt cam* above convinced me of leather’s benefit. :p

*edit* it already has a small tear in the front and I am absolutely certain that attempting to tension the leather via the bolt will cause it to split; I think I could get away with lacing.


fungicyclist
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Every instance I’ve read of someone trying to “tension” their Brooks with that bolt has led to the malformation and destruction of the item. However, on one 40 year old Brooks, kept under circumstance as yours, I noticed the saddle shifted and was loose. I snugged up the bolt and that took care of that, but while so doing I noticed the centerline of the saddle rose a little. Pushing up from the underside of the saddle, (squeezing the flaps together does about the same thing), resulted in the bolt being loose again, so I snugged it again, and chafing/irritation to my inner thigh ceased. Hope this helps.

What kind of leather conditioner did you use?


Drewbacca
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Lexol.

The chafing is due to the cracks, not the shape of the saddle. Everything already seems fairly tight. The only reason that I think I need to tension it is for the sake of resetting it for the shape of my posterior.


salty
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Well, since resurrecting threads seems to be the way it is on this board…

I’m pretty sure I don’t like the saddle on my new bike. I expected an adjustment period but it’s been almost a month now and it doesn’t seem to be getting better. What’s the chance it’s a setup issue and not the saddle itself? I think I’m going to swap saddles with my crosscheck since I never had a problem with that one and see.

Ironically the model is the one edmonds says he loves which is the wtb sst… which I guess just goes to show it’s a pretty personal choice. New crosschecks have the same saddle but mine has something else which has less padding – I suspect the extra padding on the sat is causing chafing.

The other option is to give the B17 a shot… I’m willing to do it but I’m worried about ruining it because I know there’s no way I’m going to cover my saddle just because I parked my bike in the rain/snow/etc. Is that a real concern or is it not worth worrying about?


Ken Kaminski
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I ruined a B 17 by riding it in the rain. Keep leather saddles covered.


rsprake
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My leather saddles get wet but I also don’t leave them outside. In the winter I just keep it covered.


quizbot
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I’m probably talking out of my ass, but I rue the day that I need to find a new saddle. Current one is a Selle Italia Flite that I’ve had for almost 10 yrs over 3 bikes. Sure, we’ve had some fallouts on long rides over the last few years, but otherwise it’s been a pretty solid relationship. As I’m aging though, the newer versions with the perineal cut out may be worth getting to know better.


myddrin
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Due to a broken spoke (got forced over a pothole on Penn Ave near Dallas), I’ve been riding my winter bike the last couple of days. Oddly it has a brooks saddle that I got for waaaay cheap from an amazon vendor that had it on clearance.

I’m not sure if it is just finally broken in or if I had completely forgotten how comfortable the thing is! But, wow, is it comfy!

I’m actually thinking about getting one of the lighter models for my regular bike.

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