So about that Snow…

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netviln
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Studs handled my commute fine, Mix of Mclure/Beaver ave and north shore trail. I would not have wanted to do the trail part without the studs, but the roads werent too bad.


sloaps
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slopes were fine this morning, but my steps and the roads out in washington county were slippy. Got real bad at dawn.


HiddenVariable
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i didn’t head to work until mid-morning, so the streets were fine by then. but i stepped off my bike onto the brick part of the sidewalk on craig street, and very nearly bit it hard. i still had one foot clipped in and stepped with one foot on the curb, where there was absolutely no traction, so i gracefully leaped from the bike and caught myself after flailing around (also very graceful, like an adagio dancer, i have no doubt) for a moment. good times!


dwillen
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I worked really late last night, and everything was already frozen when wanted to go home. I figure my studded tires would have been fine, but all the idiots in cars would probably side and hit me, so I just left my bike there last night.

This morning, waiting for the bus at the top of Winterburn and Farnsworth in Greenfield. I watched as cars blew up or down Winterburn (which was heavily salted) and then rapidly turn down Farnsworth, which had zero salt, and is one of those super narrow tertiary 2-way streets with parked cars on both sides, but only room for barely one car to pass between them. It also has a 30% grade, at least – closer to 40% at the very top.

These cars (and one big truck) started to fish tail, but since it was so narrow, they just hit the parked cars, continued to slide, bounce to the other side, hit the other parked cars. They all slid down this hill, hitting every single parked car all the way down. What a mess :)


Lyle
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… and how many of them just took off without identifying themselves to the owners of said parked cars? !#$#^%$#@ scofflaw cyclists.


dwillen
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Most of the people who had cars parked there walked outside every time someone hit their car. I bet they had a stack of insurance information by the end of the the morning. That will be a headache and a half to deal with a dozen different insurance companies for all the people who hit your car.


erok
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please tell us you have video


dwillen
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Unfortunately, no. You can go tour the damage on Farnsworth though :)

I was using my phone to wait on hold with PAT to see if my bus is detoured, or I would have grabbed video.


Kordite
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You know, instead of going back inside their homes after their cars were sideswiped and then coming back out when it happened again, a smart resident would have gone to the top of the hill and stopped people from trying to get down the hill in the first place.


dwillen
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Except you couldn’t really walk up the hill, and to their credit, they were yelling and hollering at the cars — and I was waving. There were 3 that did this while I was waiting at the bus stop and all of them went around the corner too fast to notice anyone standing there yelling and waving. And once they turned, there really wasn’t any going back, they immediately started to slide.

I like the idea of blocking it with some chairs or something, but I doubt I could have carried chairs up the hill.


Erica
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slipped and fell down the stairs of my building while carrying my bike, which landed on top of me. bruised up my leg real good.


gimpPAC
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ouch RF… I hope you’re ok.

Anyone see how that Panther Hollow is doing tonight? I might be going through there in the next half hour…but will take the 5th bus lane to Craft if it’s hazardous….


Pseudacris
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Panther Hollow: easy going, just was through there. You should still enter the trail at the top of the parking lot, but once you’re on it, it’s nice n melted. Just puddles on the wide part.

Same with Jail Trail.


StuInMcCandless
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At this typing (6:20 p.m.) it’s still well above freezing, and per National Weather Service isn’t supposed to hit freezing until about 11 p.m.


Pseudacris
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The puddles might freeze hard overnight, but there seemed to be plenty of room around them.


salty
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It’s not supposed to be above freezing again for 2 weeks so hopefully there’s not too much ice!


stefb
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Kdka has a video of cars going way out of control In beechview. I assume they are on this page (no flash player on iPad)

http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2011/01/18/icy-conditions-cause-many-accidents-across-area/


salty
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ugh, i was looking forward to a nice warm ride home, i thought i’d ride around and find a nice place for the tag…

i didn’t realize it was raining :( plus my pictures came out all crappy.


Ahlir
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@salty: good luck tomorrow. The temp drops below freezing around midnight and keeps dropping throughout the day… One thing about winter, it really puts a premium on setting the next tag as soon as possible.

Here’s something cool: we live on top of a hill and our street seems to cross some atmospheric boundary. For example, I’ve come home in the night and the lower half of the hill was wet, the upper part was snow, with a sharp line between the two. This morning the bit in front of our house was ice, but one house down it was wet. It somehow reminds me of something I saw as a child: a rainstorm rushing towards me across a lake, with this sharp line between calm and bubbling water. Concrete abstractions.

Anyway, I’m looking forward to warm weather; the tags should get more interesting (or, at least, further afield).


salty
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i was at the hoover dam a couple months ago – we were just passing through but we stopped to look. i saw rain coming up the valley but when it got to where i was standing on the dam, it couldn’t quite get across that threshold. the raindrops were blowing towards me and then kind of getting deflected at the last moment – it looked like magic or a movie special effect or something. i was mesmerized; it stayed that way for maybe 30 seconds before it made it over and i had to run for cover.

anyways, hopefully it’s not too ugly tomorrow am… but i’ll set a tag even if it’s in front of my house :)


erok
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stefb that video is insane. that second car was flying!


dwillen
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Yea, I think they got their brake and gas mixed up or something.


erok
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i like how people were blaming the city for this as if they were surprised it was icy when they drove on that hill.


AtLeastMyKidsLoveMe
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I’m sure they’re not the same sort of people who have ever railed against “big government” and the “nanny state.”


erok
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i kinda felt bad for public works director Kaz on that video. kdka seemed to try to get him in a “gotcha” moment, when really, he’s right, everyone knew how bad the roads were. i wonder if the trucks could’ve even gotten down that hill without destroying every car in it’s path


Steven
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The P-G reported that six city salt trucks were involved in ice-related crashes on Tuesday. Perhaps if they had tried to salt Fallowfield, there would have been seven.

Maybe we need technology that can salt a road without driving a truck down it. How about a salt cannon? Or a fleet of RC toy helicopters toting thimbles of salt?


StuInMcCandless
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How about, if it’s all icy like that, stay the hell off that street? Really, I’m amazed at drivers who think they can drive up/down some slope that they cannot even stand on.


edmonds59
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I’ve always wondered if it would be possible to ice skate downhill. Apparently another opportunity for testing has come and gone. Probably for the best.


erok
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no way, you should definitely do that and report back to us for our entertainment :)


RoadKillen
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@edmonds – Definitely possible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7LNI9Oycso


Mick
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ice skate downhill

Been there. Done that. Survived.


HiddenVariable
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i wonder how you would get down or even around beechview if it were icy. in this instance, it appears waiting would be advisable, since the ice didn’t last all that long, but otherwise, are there any streets over there that are less than like 10%?


erok
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paging mr sloaps.

when i lived up ‘ere, there were boxes on the street that were filled with salt. of course on an extreme day like that, a small amount of salt is like pissing in the ocean


edmonds59
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That’s fantastic, I thought it could be done. Now I feel like I lack the motivation to follow through on my ideas.


sloaps
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yeah, salt boxes… I’m gonna be selfish on this one and say the slopes were fine, considering last year when my neighbor decided to take Monastery on a saturday morning. Almost landed on Welsh, but certainly did land on the front page of the Sunday edition.


Pierce
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Perhaps we could hire people on these problem streets to throw salt down and maybe give them a traffic control barrel or two, if the road is too icy, they put up the barrels. Kind of pay them like we do crossing guards?


AtLeastMyKidsLoveMe
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“no way, you should definitely do that and report back to us for our entertainment :)

And film it.


AtLeastMyKidsLoveMe
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+100 – SALT CANNON!!

Have no idea what that would look like, or how it would work, but sounds awesome!


StuInMcCandless
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btw, I just took a nice little roll on the asphalt while walking out to get my mail. Wearing my Chrome shoes, no less. Watch it out there!


Erica
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To the lady jogging up the liberty sidewalk/sheet of ice this evening: you’re much braver than I am.

I was uneasy walking my bike up that sidewalk, slipping every now and again. Still a little sore from falling down the icy stairs yesterday, haha. Nothing broken, and barely bruised at this point, so I’ll hopefully be fine tomorrow!

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