The out-of-town news thread
sigh… familiar story, familiar comments. I ride on this street from my hotel to work every time I’m in CA. It is 4 lane and the cars speed, but at least it’s relatively straight and flat and has bike lanes. I really never considered it particularly dangerous, a lot of the other roads are worse.
How about this one…
830.7. (a) A public entity or an employee of a public entity
acting within his or her official capacity shall not be liable under
this chapter for an injury caused to a person riding a bicycle as
defined in Section 231 of the Vehicle Code while traveling on a
roadway if the public entity has provided a bike lane on that roadway
pursuant to Section 21207 of the Vehicle Code or Section 891.8 of
the Streets and Highway Code. For purposes of this section, “bike
lane” is as defined in Section 890.4 of the Streets and Highways
(b) The immunity set forth in this section is applicable
regardless of whether the bicyclist was within the bike lane at the
time of the accident. This immunity is also applicable regardless of
whether the reason the bicyclist was not using the bike lane was in
accordance with the exceptions listed in Section 21208 of the Vehicle
Am I reading that right? Any public employee or someone working for a public employee is immune from prosecution for clobbering a cyclist if there is a parallel path, even if otherwise at fault?
Sometimes the law is wrong.
@rr, the mind reels. So the city has complete immunity if a cop runs down a cyclist in a bike lane?
Edit: OK, reading the linked text and thinking about it, I think this is saying that injuries resulting from the presence of bike lanes can’t be pursued against the public entities that created the bike lanes. In other words they’re trying to encourage public entities to create bike lanes by saying that when you do, no cyclist can say because there was a bike lane here, instead of a road, I was injured. But I really wish a lawyer would weigh in on this because I could be totally wrong.
Edit again: the key phrase I’m getting this from is “under this chapter”. It’s referring to liabilities under this chapter, which presumably refers to building bike lanes. It’s not complete immunity.
Cyclist could be in the bike lane or not. As long as it’s painted on the road, the public employee is immune.
It’s been introduced, hasn’t hit the house or senate yet.
jonawebb, you’re trying to be rational. It isn’t rational. It’s exactly how it reads. My guess is someone took a look at how the state was bleeding money, and said, “if we didn’t have to pay liability suits for bus drivers/cops hitting cyclists, we would save X million dollars!”
“All new cars sold attract an ownership tax of at least 100 percent of the cost price. On top of that, anyone who wants to buy a car in Singapore has to first obtain a certificate of entitlement (COE), which gives them the right to own and drive a car for 10 years. The measure was introduced to limit the number of cars in the city that has an area of just 276 square miles.”
sigh, if only…
Booby traps on Baltimore trails:
Be careful people, after Sunday’s trail work a fellow rider stopped by the parking lot and dropped these booby traps off which were found on a trail in the Watershed. Besides 2 flat tires he stepped on another device when he was walking out. The boards have razor blades embedded in them and are buried in the ground so they are hard to detect.
When I was volunteering for the Rail-to-trail sojourn, they were telling me that one year some jerk put thumbtacks all over a trail that was being used outside of Erie… If my memory is correct, I think they said there was something like 50 flats. I really don’t understand some people.
Flats are one thing. Getting your dog’s paws torn up is something else again. Or getting your own feet punctured while jogging.
This isn’t a whole lot different from shooting off a .22 from the side of the road. You’re not real likely to kill someone, but you might (like going headlong at 20 mph with a front blowout and land on your neck), and certainly are going to cause significant suffering.
Flats are the least of it.
As someone who has had a nail attached to a board go at least an inch up into my foot… I’m not disagreeing with “flats are the least of it.”
What the two scenarios have in common is an intentional act with total disregard to the consequences. In the case in MD, it clearly goes the extra mile becoming (without question) a criminal act. Either way, some people actually do deserve to have their hands cut off so that they can’t use them to harm others…
I always felt that the cutting off of hands (actually done in some countries) was rather excessive, especially for the crimes they were for. I suspect the results of said action would not be good- creating a ward of the state due to inability to earn a living, and generating a lot of ill will that might be able to be acted upon even without hands.
I said “deserve”, I didn’t say that it was the best option for society. Likewise, I believe that careless drivers deserve to crash their car into a tree, totaling it. However, I don’t wish for anyone to actually crash into a tree. None the less, your point is noted.
Here’s one for Stu
“Rochester communities to encourage people to set aside their cars more often in favor of bikes, the bus, or their own two feet”
The first comment at the end is ClassiC
I felt bad for Joel, who seemed to crash into something after every little distraction.
Saw this on Wimp, had to share. From the land down under, something pleasant for a change:
with all this talk about hit and runs and cyclists and pedestrians getting hit in general, it’s refreshing to see such genius as the south dakota legislature, who have zeroed in on the real cause of the problem:
$800K payout for a dooring in Chicago.
This part of the SD resolution is great:
“WHEREAS, on many South Dakota highways with little or no highway shoulders, the exposed nature of walking and bicycling to motor vehicle traffic is high”
So nice of the people responsible for setting the construction standards and paying for construction to notice that their product is missing this important bit.
Of course, to be fair, space in SD is extremely, extremely tight.
I’d be much happier to have this problem rather than our current ones: http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2013/03/bike_chaos_threatens_in_big_ci.php
This is very cool;
“With Key Biscayne’s main road in a snarl Saturday night, Williams borrowed a bike at her hotel, rode to her match and beat Ayumi Morita in the third round of the Sony Open, 6-3, 6-3.” Huffpost Miami
What a f’n mess… cagers showing up to boo a proposal to remove parking spaces to create bike lanes in SF.
Also sucks that they bring up the example of the cyclist who killed a ped as an example of why there shouldn’t be bike lanes. If they want to use that logic I guess that means it’s time to remove all the car lanes since they kill way more people.
Only a few of the San Francisco Bicycle Coalition’s 12,000 members seemed to be in attendance, and they remained largely silent — “intimidated” was how several attendees described it. The bike proponents who did speak were met with disdain.
“Wild Ride is an after-hours event offering visitors the opportunity to cruise the Zoo on their bicycle! Animals will be out on exhibit and exhibitor booths will be set up on the Welcome Plaza.
The bike community in Cleveland is exploding and in keeping with the Zoo’s mission to connect people with wildlife, we’re inviting the members of this growing community to see the Zoo on two wheels rather than two heels. No other zoo in Ohio has an event like this!”
I’m not sure how they’re going to deal with the loose wandering peacocks.
An itty bitty step forward in Saudi Arabia.
I am loving the hell out of Peter Sagan victory wheelies, here at Gent-Wevelgem, showmanship;
Lots of stats but I didn’t find the article very useful. Uninspired journalism. It reads like the Mets box score. I am posting in case some one else can draw useful information or a Pittsburgh parallel from it.
@edmonds59: I’m a big fan of Sagan (minus the immature backside pinch on the podium last week). He had a separate “celebration” for each of his 3 TdF stage wins last season. Very good sprinter and looks to be improving into an all-around type rider who can compete for the classics.
Riding in Minneapolis can be dangerous: “The police are now investigating the Molotov bomb, which landed within feet of Ditlefsen judging by the way he reeked of petro-fuel afterward. But it’s only the latest in a string of attacks on cyclists on the Greenway”
USDOT to Host Bike Safety Summits (2)
U.S. Department of Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood announced Monday two USDOT-hosted bike safety summits will take place in April. The summits, LaHood said, are meant to share ideas and discuss ways to make the nation’s transportation infrastructure more bike-friendly and safer for all users.
LaHood announced the summits via his blog, Fastlane.dot.gov. The first summit will take place in Tampa on April 11 and the second in Minneapolis on April 29.
“We’re going to learn from communities what works and what doesn’t work,” LaHood wrote in his blog. “And once we figure out what the best practices are, we’re going to team up with the bicycling community to help ensure that when cities, towns, states, and counties think about creating new bike infrastructure, they’ll have the tools to implement those practices and keep all users of the roads as safe as possible.”
LaHood said he is looking for participants from across the board, including “federal, state, and local officials, planners, designers, engineers, law enforcement, educators, health and safety experts, and others throughout the bicycle community.” Registration for the summit in Tampa is available here. Participants for the Minneapolis summit can register here.
These summits, LaHood said, will help to keep the public safe when using the nation’s transportation infrastructure.
“When I say safety is this department’s number one priority, there’s no exception for bikes,” he wrote. “With more bicyclists on our streets, helping them ride safely is not a luxury; it’s part of our obligation.”
Additional information on the bike safety summits is available on LaHood’s blog here.
President of Georgia breaks shoulder in Istanbul:
N.M. man bikes 100 miles on 93rd birthday
“When I was the Bicycle and Pedestrian Coordinator for the City of Milwaukee Dept. of Public Works, part of my job was to investigate complaints about speeding on neighborhood streets and when people said they had trouble crossing a street at a crosswalk. Before I could respond with a solution to these complaints, I needed facts so we did studies to check for speeding and to see what percentage of people failed to yield to pedestrians in crosswalks. I also did bicycle counts at intersections where I checked to see how many people obeyed the traffic signals.
So what did these studies find? Get ready for a big shock, but my studies found that in general, people riding bicycles tend to be more law-abiding than people driving cars…”
94% of motorists failed to yield to pedestrians in the crosswalk.
The best result he got was 23% of motorists yielding to pedestrians in the crosswalk at Oakland and Olive. But at two study locations, none of the cars yielded to pedestrians.
I actually think this is a bigger problem than anything cyclists face, and certainly pedestrians die in far larger numbers than cyclists. Some asswipe in a gigantic SUV did his best to run over myself, my wife, and my dog as we were legally crossing Negley Ave last night while he was turning left from 5th. After he managed to stop, he immediately hit the gas and cut in front of us while blaring his horn. It would have been bad enough if it were accidental, rather than the act of a selfish asshole who clearly thinks he was entitled to do what he did.
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