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John
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I wonder if Petacchi will make it through the Pyrenees.


brian j
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So I’m Alberto Contador. I’m about 3km from the finish of today’s stage, sitting comfortably on the wheel of the yellow jersey. The climb isn’t long enough to make back any serious time (and besides, why do I want to control the race yet), and my team mate, the dude who started Astana, basically, is up the road, looking like he’ll at least challenge for the stage win. That’d be a good thing, right? I mean, he’s coming back from a doping suspension, he’s the same nationality as the dudes who bankroll my team, so, yeah, he should take the stage.

Or, maybe, I’ll jump, leave the yellow jersey behind, pass my teammate, and only gain back 10 seconds in the GC. That makes a lot more sense to me.

Seriously, I don’t get it. Is it so hard to throw your teammate a bone? I mean, maybe Rodriquez would have caught Vino, but at least you didn’t cause your teammate to miss out on the stage win. Does Contador just not get it? Does he think this is how he stamps his authority on the peleton? By stealing wins from his teammate?


cburch
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he should have pulled vino to the finish and then handed him the win. that would have been the classy thing to do.


sarah_q
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Why did Tyler Farrar (Garmin-Transitions) abandon the Tour today?


dwillen
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http://www.versus.com/cycling/videos/matt-white-talks-about-tyler-farrar-leaving-the-tour/

He had a broken wrist since stage 2, I think. That stuff hurts. I couldn’t imagine doing century after century up those huge mountains with a broken wrist and no pain meds.


sarah_q
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Thanks. I was getting my info from Velonews and didn’t see this. I thought maybe the head butt just put him over the edge.


brian j
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Nice quote from Contador after the stage:

“Vino did a great job getting into the break. It was very important having him there. We didn’t have to work on what was a very hot and difficult day. It was just a pity he couldn’t stay away and win.”

Read: it’s too bad I’m better than him, but I said “thanks for the hard work” by getting 10 seconds back on the yellow jersey.


mark
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i couldn’t believe that finish… i also thought it was pretty funny when schleck didn’t respond and only lost 10 seconds… one of the commentators said “if he doesn’t respond here, its the end of the tour”… some times these guys are daft.


John
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If you read the report in cycling news, it is the end of Schleck’s tour. Contador did massive psychological damage. How can Andy recover from that?


brian j
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Schleck’s tour is over unless he can gain significant time in the Pyrennes. He lost 1:09 in the prologue TT. How in the world is going to hold off (or make time on) Contador over 52 kilometers in the final TT.

Menchov or Gesnik have a very good shot at finishing second if they can follow wheels next week.


Pierce
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Does this have any merit to it?

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/16072010/58/tour-de-france-schleck-happy-limit-damage.html

And apparently the audio feed works (unlike the video feed)

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/audioplayer.html


bikefind
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This makes me ridiculously happy every time I see it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h86FSFzRexI

(apparently directed by Christopher Guest)


HiddenVariable
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i love the whole series. this is my favorite.


HiddenVariable
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wow, the frenchman who won today had to be talked out of quitting yesterday. good show, man.


sarah_q
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Just heard this from the commentators: “depends if Andy Schleck and Alberto Contador want to have a ding dong battle like they did yesterday!” :)


AtLeastMyKidsLoveMe
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“…a ding dong battle…”??

I thought this was a family show.


brian j
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Well, Schleck lost the jersey, after losing his chain. We can now begin the age old discussion of whether or not Contador should have waited for Schleck.

Also, Menchov and Sanchez picked up another 40 seconds on Schleck. Bad news, that.

Also, so much for the thought that today would Armstrong’s day to win a stage. Tomorrow, right?


Marko82
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Since when is it ok to attack the yellow after a mechanical? This is outrageous! There is no way that Contador didn’t know what was happening. He should have sat up like the field almost ALWAYS does. Remember a few years back when Lance caught a handlebar and went down – the field respected the yellow. Contador and his manager are ASSES!


sarah_q
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Schleck interviewed that he is out for revenge tomorrow. Go Andy!


brian j
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Apparently Contador got booed a bit during the yellow jersey presentation.

As the commentators on the Bicycling live blog noted, Contador (and Menchov and Sanchez) probably won’t get favors in the remaining days.


HiddenVariable
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i wanted to see vinokourov help out schleck. that would’ve been sweet.


sarah_q
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He did the pistol thing while being booed.


rsprake
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Ha ha.


brian j
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There’s an interesting collection of comments on the Cyclocosm blog about today’s incident. A few good things pointed out:

* No one waits for anyone at a race like Paris-Roubaix. And no one waited for Armstrong when he flatted in stage 3.

* Evans (arguably) lost the Vuelta last year because of an ill-time flat and a botched wheel exchange. No one waited for him.

The Ullrich/Armstrong examples that are often cited as the model of peleton etiquette don’t exactly fit this situation, either, particularly when Armstrong when down. That was because of spectator intervention, not a mechanical. Forcing the group to sit up made perfect sense, as a rider shouldn’t be eliminated because of a spectator’s mussette.

Hopefully Schleck goes all out tomorrow, though he did burn through quite a few matches today. I suspect he’ll wait ’til Thursday, however, to really put in a dig (likely his plan all along, methinks), given that tomorrow’s last climb is over 50km from the finish.


Chris Mayhew
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Big difference in one day vs multi day stage races.


88MS88
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Dropping your own chain while shifting isn’t a mechanical it’s rider error. We all know the dangers of shifting while bearing down on the crank on an uphill. That being said, can’t wait to see Andy’s reaction tomorrow.


eMcK
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If this was 1975 I’d agree throwing a chain might be rider error, but modern high end cranks are designed specifically to allow shifts under power, both up and down.

Odds are quite good some mechanic is in the dog house right now, and all the team bikes are being examined for proper front derailleur set up. The difference between a good shift and a chain derailment can be 2mm or less, in either limit screws, derailleur height or derailleur rotation or some combination of all three.


sarah_q
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Post race video of Contador on the controversy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdOJLuePexs


cburch
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what eric said. somebody is in TROUBLE.

also contador is fast topping my list of biggest d-bags in pro cycling. i wasn’t sure if anyone was going to be able to dethrone cav, but damn its a close race.


bikefind
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also contador is fast topping my list of biggest d-bags in pro cycling

but he has such a lovely voice.


AtLeastMyKidsLoveMe
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Saw the late telecast on Vs. last night. The key sequence: Schleck drops chain. Vinokourov notices chain drop, sits back in saddle, appears to ease off of what looked like an attack, then looks back over his right shoulder. As Vinokourov is ramping up for his attack, Contador jumps out of his saddle and starts digging also, once Vinokourov sits, Contador passes Schleck (with clear sight of his “mechanical” problem) on the right. Vonokourov looks over, sees Contador attacking, shakes his head slightly, and jumps up after him.

No doubt Contador knew what he was doing. Vinokourov appeared to be easing off, but then followed after his “team” mate.

Bobke described it best afterward: it was not “honorable” for Contador to take advantage. No one wants to win the Tour because somebody’s chain dropped. You ought to want to win the Tour because you were the stronger rider over 21 stages.

I was iffy on Schleck before. I’m a huge fan now. Contador? D-bag (the footage of him on the podium is priceless however, trying to smile through the boos).


brian j
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Well, so much for a stage win for LA. Have fun on the triathlon circuit.

Thursday’s stage should be exciting, methinks.


HiddenVariable
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i kinda dig andy schleck. he says an awful lot of fun things to the media, and i like the general tone he has when discussing the race. he seems like he’s enjoying himself. i think that’s part of what makes contador seem like such a d-bag to me.

thursday is going to be exciting for sure. can’t wait.

so, who’s everyone’s favorite rider in this race? besides jens voigt. i have no idea what folks are like off bike, but on it i’m a huge fan of aggression. that riblon fella earned a lot of props, and i also dig the way ryder hesjedal has ridden this race.


brian j
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Hesjedal has ridden a great race. I’m a fan of Sylvain Chavenal, too, as he never seems content to ride in the bunch (btw, why didn’t anyone wait for him for he flatted while wearing the yellow jersey?).


brian j
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Schleck and Contador have kissed and made up. Should be quite the lovefest up the Tourmalet.


AtLeastMyKidsLoveMe
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The producers at Vs. are jumping out of windows.


brian j
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The producers at Vs. are jumping out of windows.

Don’t worry, Lancey-pants may still be on the podium! The yellow jersey doesn’t matter anyway–it’s all about the team GC!


salty
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Holy crap, the biggest shocker yet – I just saw an actual bicycle commercial on VS. I thought they only played car commercials.

FWIW, that Michelin commercial about the “evil gas pump” is downright offensive. The Leaf commercial isn’t much better.


HiddenVariable
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i don’t mind the leaf commercial all that much because at least it’s a little bit inventive. but the evil gas pump thing makes me want to kick babies almost as much as “triple hops brewed” miller light.


bikefind
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The part of the beer commercial where Lance is supposed to be “treating” himself though, by pouring like an extra 3 tablespoons of milk into his already pretty dry looking cereal, has me laughing til my sides hurt every time I see it. Probably because I know people like that: I really want to splurge on something, just kind of go crazy – I know. I’ll have half a blueberry.

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