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edmonds59
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I think when Lance splurges he goes out with both Olsen twins.


AtLeastMyKidsLoveMe
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In the “How Stupid Do They Think We Are/We Must Be Pretty Stupid – Beer Commercial” category, the winner is: The beer bottle with the twisty neck, so that the “pour will be more refreshing.” Or something.

(This award had been retired with the advent of the “Specially Lined Can.”)


HiddenVariable
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i honestly can’t describe how much i hate the “triple hops brewed” thing. as someone who’s brewed my share of beers, i’ve added hops at least three times to just about all of them, so it annoys me that they’re acting like it’s unusual. and can you really say you’ve added hops if you throw in three cones for every 20,000 barrels? they should call it triple corn brewed.

sorry, i’m a bit of a beer snob. though i am willing to drink anything, it just irks me when these huge companies try to tell you that their beer tastes different or better than the other huge companies’ beer. or when they pretend that their beers are actually meant to taste like anything (hint: if you want to taste a beer, you shouldn’t drink it at 32 degrees fahrenheit).

whew, i let that one run away with me! apologies!


brian j
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Back on target…is anyone going to a public place to watch the stage tomorrow?


cburch
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ever hear the expression “american beer is like sex in a canoe,

its f—ing pretty close to water!”


HiddenVariable
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heard it, sure, but disagree completely. most american styles are actually english styles on steroids.

i wish i could watch the tour in public tomorrow. right now all signs point to me riding from buffalo to erie while it’s going on.


brian j
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Well, Hejsedal had the ride of his life today to climb into 8th place in the GC. He has nearly a minute on 9th place, too.

It was pretty impressive watching Schleck and Contador ride away from everyone. Schleck’s second place seems pretty secure since they put serious time into the other contenders. I highly doubt he can beat Contador in the TT, but stranger things have happened. Schleck needs to remember he’s only 25–the likelihood that Contador will break Lance’s record looks slim, given Schleck can only go up from here.


stefb
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the only coverage kdka sports report gave the tour today was that there were sheep on the climb.


rsprake
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Ha ha, the sheep were pretty awesome. They came up over the hillside and right in front of the chase group. They continued to run along side the riders as if they were all in devil costumes, cheering them on.

Schleck and Contador were impressive though, they had a nice moment after the race where they hugged like to UFC fighters after a match. :) They both gave it their all.

Apparently they checked Lance’s bike for a motor after Tuesday’s stage.


Andrew
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Today’s climb was awesome. Schleck and Contador gave it there all. The crowd was getting frantic near the end. I kept thinking someone in the crowd was going to accidentally hit someone.


sloaps
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Watched it at OTB. Did anyone else see the four fans in the very revealing neon green ‘Borat’ one-piece swimsuits?


matatarski
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Yes, that was…interesting. Those fans near the top were insane!


dwillen
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I just finished the replay. There were the 3 dudes in borat costumes, and some dude with assless chaps that was running along a few minutes prior. The cameraman did his best to keep the frame right above his waist. Crazy Europeans.


stefb
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i thought there have been borat outfits like that in the past also.

i wonder if it annoys the cyclists when fans start to run along side of them. the other day, i saw someone/ some people dressed as a huge water bottle that also opens at the bottom.


dwillen
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The commentators on the webcast love that guy. Apparently his name is Dave. They get all excited when they see him.

“Oh and there is Dave running along side in his brilliant invention! It is a bottle that opens on both sides, its a wonder nobody has thought of it sooner!”

I wonder if Dave gave Phil and Paul some free water bottles.


Ohiojeff
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I wonder if Dave gave Phil and Paul some free water bottles.

The 2nd time I heard that I knew that “Dave” had paid Versus to mention the bottle every time it appeared. Like a character in a movie drinking a Coke instead of a Pepsi–it’s a product placement.


dwillen
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edmonds59
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That’s a pretty awesome product, now I have a bottle I can lose both ends of!


abrenner
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reddan
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Pavement has “G O” painted, so they must have run out of room for the “A T S”.


sarah_q
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I was really hoping Schleck could pull it off.


cburch
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he’s got a long career ahead. plenty of time to trade white for yellow.


88MS88
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Just hope he doesn’t become the Jan to AC’s Lance.


Ross
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I was *so* pulling for Schleck today…

I can’t get past Contador taking advantage of Schleck’s mechanical problems to take the yellow. I hate seeing him win after doing that.


bikefind
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Did you hear the announcer as they crossed the line? He said that Contador let Shleck win? Maybe a figure of speech, but it really bugged me. I want him to take it back.


brian j
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It was pretty clear that Contador didn’t really contest the sprint on Thursday. A sporting gesture given Contador sat on Schleck’s wheel all day.

If I’m Schleck, I’m ruing the time I lost during the prologue. Even a half decent TT on that day, and it may have been a very different race.


eMcK
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Road cycling is the only sport I can think of that people think it is unsporting to take advantage of mechanical problems.


AtLeastMyKidsLoveMe
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Isn’t the point to determine who is the stronger cyclist – not who has the more reliable derailleur?


brian j
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My impression that much of the “etiquette” these days is a relatively new thing. I recall an interview with Pedro Delgado (tour winner, doper) where he said that in the 80s (and before), riders attacked whenever they damn well pleased.

I can understand slowing down for Armstrong when he was brought down by a spectator. Mechanicals? Maybe not.


eMcK
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Sure it is a test of strength, but it also a test of descending speeds, and climbing, and general bike handling, and teamwork, and preparation, including equipping team bikes with reliable components and hiring mechanics with the skill to prevent mechanical from happening.

Imagine if DH riders got a “do over” whenever they got a flat, or XC guys got to stop the race to repair a flat, or cyclocrossers got to stop the race to swap to a better tires for conditions, or adjust tire pressure. Mechanicals are a fact of life in bike racing, waiting for someone is certainly sporting, but I wouldn’t consider it unsportsmanlike to not wait.


brian j
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To be fair, as Chris pointed out above, this sort of thing is limited to the Grand Tours–no one waits for anyone during a race like Paris-Roubaix, and this was reflected during stage 3, where there was a fair bit of chaos (and several riders found themselves on the wrong side of that chaos.

I suspect that in something like a Grand Tour, the idea is that the entire race shouldn’t come down to a single mechanical failure or off. Of course, these “rules” do get applied pretty subjectively, as no one waited for Cadel Evans when he flatted and neutral support bungled the wheel change. I suspect that bit of bad luck was the difference between a win and a loss for Cuddles.


edmonds59
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I don’t want to spoil it for anyone who may not have seen today’s tt yet, but I have to say I gained some respect for Contador today. Schleck gave him a challenge, and you could tell Contador rode himself to a very deep and painful place in response.


Ross
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+1 on added respect for Contador digging deep today.

He’s not my favorite rider, and I stand by my comments on the “mechanical problems” thing, but it was really obvious that AC was pulling out the stops today. For all his good and bad, he never just phones it in.

…I’m always torn on stuff like this. I admire AC’s efforts, but I think he’s a smack…I totally support Livestrong, but I think Lance is a dick (although I feel sorta bad for the guy with all the Federal pressure that’s on him now).

I really would have been happy to see Schleck win the GC — next year’ll be the year though!


brian j
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The sad/frustrating part is that Contador will likely hang up his hat for the remainder of the season. (He’s not the first winner to do this–see Indurain and Armstrong.) He could carve out a very different (better?) legacy than Armstrong by winning a bunch of Grand Tours, not simply the Tour de France.

Contador also suggested that maybe next year would be a Giro/Vuelta year, too.


Chris Mayhew
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it’s practically impossible in the modern era to go for gc in two grand tours unless you do italy and spain. i’ve seen some training data to back that up but one only need look at evans or basso.

plus, contaboor has won a couple of editions of each. he’s already up on lance in that regard.


helen s
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I secretly was hoping Contador had a mecahnical problem for about, oh what was it, maybe :40?

That would have evened things out a bit.


edmonds59
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Today I saw for the first time a Specialized commercial with Contador and Schleck –

“I can eat 21 gels and a deep fried turkey”

it’s possible it’s the best ad ever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzPq0hDdDhs


salty
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deep fried turkey FTW!


Pierce
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Bottle brushes work wonders…

Has anybody lost a chain in the competitive part of the Dirty Dozen?


88MS88
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Sad it’s over, but at least we won’t have to hear ‘the time trial of his life’ anymore.

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