Tuesday Night "Dark and cold, we ride anyway" ride

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reddan
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Looks like this coming Tuesday (10/25/2011) will be fairly decent weather. Anyone wanna do a brisk ride around 6-ish?

I’m thinking an escape from the city would be nice…either a 25-30 miler out through Fox Chapel, or a 30-35 miler out through Franklin Park. No DD hills, but I’m sure there will be a few decent climbs.


stefb
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Yeah I need to get out. I have really done a number on my right hip flexors.. So much so that I may not be able to do the dirty dozen this year :(. So I would like to come out, but I can’t hammer away. I will bring my road bike so I can keep up better.


reddan
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Let’s do the shorter Fox Chapel route then.

Tazza, 6:15?


chemicaldave
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dan, would that be this route?


chemicaldave
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I’m young and spry. How big are the hills we’re talking about?


reddan
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@chemicaldave: Nothing terribly dramatic. We’ll likely head out to Freeport Rd, then up Fox Chapel Rd to Squaw Run, then Dorseyville to Harts Run to Saxonburg or Middle and back to town.

Nothing steep…a couple longish shallow climbs, but that’s about it.

BTW, note that half-decent lights are required…


stefb
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Ok. I will have very bright lights


rice rocket
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I’m in for this. Did you feel that you needed arm/leg warmers and such by the end of the ride? I guess I should just pack them just in case.


chemicaldave
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I’ll have to postpone any such rides due to lack of bright lights. Oh, and a road bike with more than one gear.


reddan
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@ricerocket: It’s likely to be in the low 50s or high 40s by the time we’re done, for whatever that’s worth.

@chemicaldave: multiple gears aren’t necessary, but at least a good flashlight or something taped to your bars would be really, really wise. Out in Deliverance country, the streetlights are few and far between.


CPollack
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I may or may not be there…It’d be terrible not to take advantage of this weather.


BradQ
Participant
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I more or less did this route today in the sun, adding on the deserted Old Mill and the climb out of Indianola.


orionz06
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I would be there but I have a concert to go to and my bright light has not arrived.


reddan
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That was fun. Thanks to all who came out.

Next week, if the weather continues to fail to utterly suck, we’ll likely do something fun out Franklin Park way involving Roosevelt and Nicholson or something like that.


brian j
Participant
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deserted Old Mill and the climb out of Indianola.

This is one of my favorite stretches north of the city. Highly recommended at night, too.


Marko82
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Bah, couldnt make it tonight and the weather was peerfect. Not too many days like today left in 2011 either.


stefb
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Oh yeah I won’t be able to make it next week cause I have that test the next morning.


sew
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@ reddan: What’s the Roosevelt / Nicholson route? I live right off Roosevelt, so it would be sad if I didn’t take advantage of a weather and a route that rolled that close.


dmtroyer
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@brian & brad where exactly is this indianola and old mill?


reddan
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@sew: My traditional route starts in Millvale and picks up Babcock. Then, Rochester->Nicholson->Mt Nebo->Roosevelt->California (AKA Center/Church/Division/Lincoln and whatever else it’s called through Emsworth/Avalon/Bellevue).

Since 40th St Bridge is closed, I might reroute up California Ave through Bellevue, then over to West View and pick up Rochester Rd off Perrysville Ave, or even do Mt Nebo Rd to McAleer Rd to Rochester Rd.


brian j
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Old Mill runs between Squaw Run and Indianola Roads (it branches right off Squaw Run just before you head up toward Dorseyville). It’s rolling, generally very quiet, and gravel between Fox Chapel Road and Indianola Road. That’s my favorite bit, but it’s a fine road for its entire length.

Edited to add: If you enjoy the gravel/dirt, you can string together a fair bit of it in that area.

Map


Swalfoort
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@dan; It looks like you’ll be passing close to both SEW and I en route – SEW first, and me as you come off of Roosevelt. Feel free to call on me if you run into mishap out that way.


sew
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Sounds like a good route, I rode similar on Sunday morning. I may have to break down and buy a light.

@swalfoort – now that would be a great service. AAA for your bike!! Not for the run of the mill flats, just crazy stuff that you need help with (ie. I’m half way up Canton and too afraid to walk down and too tired to ride up!! :)


BradQ
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What Brian said. There are some killer dirt roads out there. Back in my younger mtb days I knew most of the roads and how to connect between them via trail (much of the mid-nineties to mid-2000’s Punk Bike course was in those woods). Now I have trouble even linking the roads together cohesively, but am still familiar with enough of them. Need to study that map and go tear it up out there.

Dirt road riding is some of my favorite riding.


brian j
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My favorite loop:

Get out to the base of Guys Run Road.

* LT on Campbell’s Run Road. This promptly turns to a closed dirt road and climbs up to the ridge. Go through the as-of-yet-undeveloped real estate.

* RT on Fox Chapel Road.

* RT on Old Mill Road (this is a tricky hairpin that transitions to dirt). Dirt road.

* RT on Indianola.

* LT on 910, then a quick RT on McClleland.

* Follow McClelland to the left. Dirt road.

* RT on Cove Run.

* LT on Rich Hill.

* RT on Marshall Hill. Dirt. Points down. Much opportunity to crash here if you’re on skinny tires.

Marshall Hill dumps you Little Deer Creek, which will take you back to Freeport Road, or, if you go left, to more adventures.


rice rocket
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Roosevelt is one of my favorite climbs. Almost no car traffic.


reddan
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Hmmm…pursuant to rice rocket’s point (and a convo we had last night), it might be fun to do next week’s route as California->Roosevelt->Nicholson->Rochester, then back to town via Camp Horne->loop up to California. That’d be something in the 30-35 mile range, assuming a dahntahn start.


sew
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Roosevelt to right on Crawford to cut off some distance if that is the goal. Cobblestone is open to the high school (via 100 yards of paved path) to Joseph if you want to avoid hills (fill up water bottles at my place) or you can continue down to Grand View for a short hill that tops at 18 percent for the more ambitious.

Joseph connects to Camp Horne as does Crawford.


John
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There’s also a ghost road off Camp Horne by Sunny Jim’s that’s a cool alternative to Roosevelt. More fun going up than down.


sew
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Harmony. I haven’t been all the way up/down on it in years since it has been closed to car traffic. Is it in condition to ride it?


Swalfoort
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The last time I road Harmony it was on my scooter. It was fine. That would have been fairly recently (like maybe Summer 2010?) I think they closed it for a while, but then reopened it. I can check tonight. Beautiful road, but one I personally prefer on a scooter, not a bicycle. (I am a wimp, as anyone here will tell you…..)


reddan
Keymaster
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Weather forecast looks good (i.e. high 40s-low 50s and dry roads), so this Tuesday is a go.

Since we’re heading northwest, is anyone tied to the Tazza start? If not, I’m thinking 6:15 under the bridge at the Point would be a fine starting location, although I’m open to others.

At this point, route looks something like this. There will be opportunity for convenience store stops on-route at Mt Nebo and Nicholson, Camp Horne and 65, and various places along California. Should be a bit less than 35 miles.

Elevation profile shows that, once we get past the climb up Roosevelt, it should be all kinds of good fun. Although I’ve never gone down Rochester, I suspect it’s going to be a lot nicer than going up it…


Swalfoort
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Just a couple of follow ups;

Harmony Road remains closed. Incidental to the proposed route, but I had mentioned that I would check.

Many convenience stores through Bellevue. There’s also one in Avalon, on the big curve between MP 7 and 26 on map. After that, the next one is not until Mt. Nebo at Nicholson — a good hill later.


bear250220
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theres a pizza roma at mt nebo and nicholson i only live 200 yards from there to bad ill be at work when the ride takes place


reddan
Keymaster
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Weather looks promising. We’ll likely be in the low 50s when we start, and somewhere in the mid-40s at the end, so the parkas and lobster mitts shouldn’t be necessary.

That said, much of the latter half of the ride will be descending, so please be prepared with a wind jacket or whatever extra garments you prefer for such things.

Also, as mentioned last week, it will be dark out in the boonies, so please be prepared with decent headlights and tailights of some variety.


rice rocket
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So are we meeting at the Point?


reddan
Keymaster
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@rice rocket: yep. 6:15, lurking trollishly under the bridge.

Call or text 412 nine15six2zerosix if you’re running behind.


rice rocket
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Man, that was an adventure.

My rear tire was pretty square looking, so I put on some Continental GP4000Ss last night, and come back this afternoon to find my rear tire flat. Turns out that I pinched the tube right above the valve. No problem, text Dan, replace the tube, get down to the North Shore, and it’s flat again!

These GP4000Ss are pretty damn tight. Futzed with the tire until 6:51 according to my GPS, and then had to play catch-up the rest of the ride. Every hill I crested, I was hoping to see some friendly flashing red lights until I finally caught up to you guys crossing 279 for the 2nd time.

Anyways, good ride. I’m pooped.


reddan
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Yeah, ’twas fun. I really like the ridge roads (Roosevelt and Nicholson), and descending on Rochester was pretty sweet.

Glad yinz could make it…I’ll try to come up with something interesting for next week.


reddan
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Assuming the weather holds out, I’m thinking we’ll duplicate last week’s route as far as the Nicholson/Rochester intersection, then hang a left and head down Big Sewickley Creek Rd all the way to Ambridge. We’ll come back via Sewickley, Coraopolis, and Neville Island. Potential stops at convenience store on Mt Nebo and at coffee shops in Sewickley, as well as a 7-11 on Neville Island. 35-40ish miles round trip, I’m guessing.

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