Turtle Creek Rail Trail

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PIT2MAD
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Any idea how to get Google to add this trail to its “biking” maps.

I  like turning on the biking layer and seeing the growing network of green lines around the region. This trail has had sections open for years now and still no recognition on Google.

I tried a few of their reporting options but nothing quite applies to the biking and I’ve seen no changes


TheSteelGator
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Not much out there on the Internet about this, which is surprising to me. Best as I can tell, the only way is to suggest “missing road” to Google. But it seems like they aren’t very quick about responding to requests, unfortunately.

@71bucs, the deli is good. Lots of Boars Head brand lunchmeat options. Two ladies own it and they have always given us (both me and my better half) very prompt service. I like the Export’s Finest sandwich (peppered turkey) on toasted Italian. The portions are large, too.


TheSteelGator
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Forgot to mention that crosswalks and bike crossing symbols were being painted on Monday afternoon. There are also yellow poles up for what I can only assume will be gates near several street crossings. Looks like everything should be done by the Export festival in August.


cycleguy
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The next phase of  work from Export to Delmont…….Just curious” how” they plan on crossing Route 66 and” where” on Route 66 is the trail going to cross???


TheSteelGator
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No one knows for sure yet, @cycleguy. It was announced at a recent Westmoreland Heritage Trail monthly meeting (May, I think) that Westmoreland County has a tentative agreement in place to purchase land from Great Oak Energy between White Valley and Delmont. This parcel was part of the old rail line. I think it would bring the trail up to Route 66 across from Industrial Drive.

To give you a visual, @paulheckbert posted this link back in 2016:

https://goo.gl/maps/Z6AsebdBrbn

This is most likely where the trail will need to cross 66. How that happens, I don’t know. I’d love to see the old train tunnel dug out, but that is highly unlikely due to $$$, I’d think…


71bucs
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I rode the trail from Trafford this morning, intending to get to the end at the Export Deli.  I didn’t get that far.

The trail was in really bad condition.  Three trees were down, one across the trail completely.  But, the worst part was a little over a mile from Trafford where the limestone was completely washed out for possibly a quarter-mile, and there were very deep and wide ruts. I had to walk my bike — no riding here.  Then, there were two other spots where rocks washed down from the hillside and covered at least 20 yards.  Again, I had to walk my bike.

Further along, there were many sections of partial wash-out that caused a pretty rough ride, but manageable.

Sadly, once past Roberts Trail Access, the newest section has suffered damage also.  What was a smooth ride last week was now like riding on a washboard in some areas.  When I got to Cleveland Brothers, a fence had been put up with a large orange “Trail Closed” sign attached.  I figured that the maintenance people were working ahead, and turned around here.  I just hope that they were working on final touches on the new trail, and not repairing storm damage!

On the way back, I came upon a crew that had removed the tree that covered the trail, and they were going to proceed up the trail.  I thanked them, and wished them good luck.


TheSteelGator
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I’ve been out of town since Tuesday, but from what I’ve seen online it looks like most of Western PA got thrashed by storms this week. The WHT volunteer maintenance crew typically works on Wednesday mornings. Seems like the majority of Westmoreland County got hit on Thursday.


71bucs
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@thesteelgator:  Yes, the county was hit pretty hard.  Quite a few people had floods in their neighborhoods, and subsequent property damage.  I should be more concerned about them than the condition of the trail.

But, when things get back to normal, I will try one of those Export’s Finest sandwiches.  Thanks for the tip.


MattK
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For those curious about the Great Oak Energy parcel, it’s the section that runs from Rt 66 westward approximately to Ringer Court Road in Murrysville, crossing over Morosini Farm Road.  Some pictures of this section of the trackbed can be seen on Coke Oven Mike’s blog entry on the Delmont mines : http://coalandcoke.blogspot.com/2017/01/delmont-mines-turtle-creek-branch-of.html

As far as the rest of the trackbed goes, a couple segments are owned by the regional trail corp, at least one is owned by Murysville, one by Export tire, one by Salem Industrial Drive corp….and some smaller sections are owned by other owners as well.  Compared to the phase 3+4 acquisition from Dura-Bond, less real estate needs to be acquired to complete this potential phase of the trail.  However, it looks like there are a few more different owners that the county will need to make deals with.  It sounds like they are making progress.

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