What streets need to be repaved first

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brian j
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Not quite paved, but….ARB and Sandy Creek have a fresh layer of tar and chips.


ejwme
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Brian, you beat me to it. Lime Hollow is fresh too, but I’m not sure anybody bikes that. I think Saltzburg is in line, as well as most other Penn Hills thoroughfares. If only they’d do Lincoln Rd between… Verona Rd and Verona Blvd. Lincoln before Verona Blvd is so pretty now!


StuInMcCandless
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Perrysville’s 1960s concrete from Federal to Federal is now history. Yay! Upper Federal to NCharles was being paved as I went by. I’m sure the part up to Marshall will be done by day’s end or at worst tomorrow.


rice rocket
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Oh wow. That makes that section of Perrysville actually rideable.

I almost crashed trying to bunnyhop a huge gap in that concrete last year (unclipped and smashed my taint on the top tube, I got better pedals since).


AtLeastMyKidsLoveMe
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@ricerocket: T… M… I…

(I’m still wincing at the thought of it… ouch!)


stefb
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Stu, that is great news!

Ejwme, I considered riding to work in Monroeville this week, and had I done it, I sure would have been angry riding on ARB and all of the other roads that have fresh tar and chips. I did see a cyclist on my way home going inbound on ARB. he is the first I have seen since last summer.


StuInMcCandless
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Perrymont got tar-and-chipped in June 2011. By February 2012 it had some serious potholes. I really wish they’d stop tar-and-chipping roads. It improves things zero, and makes roads next to unridable for both bicycles and motorcycles for weeks afterward.


stefb
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Yeah what is the intended purpose of doing the tar and chip thing? I always wonderd.


reddan
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what is the intended purpose of doing the tar and chip thing?

Same reason they put makeup on a corpse before the viewing.


mr marvelous
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Is it dangerous to ride on tar and chipped roads? I’m worried about loosing traction.


edmonds59
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Yes! Where the “chip” gravel doesn’t get stuck to the tar it gets pushed around and gathers in little piles, usually in the worst possible places like at the bottom of turns and at intersections. Those little piles are killers, my guess is that they cause dozens of motorcycle crashes as well, as Stu implied. The wheel tracks from the cars are usually the clearest from loose chips, so ride there and stay away from the edges. The whole procedure is useless and stupid.


brian j
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If ridden north of the city at all, particularly northeast (out Saxonburg, or any of the fine roads that drop down to Freeport Road past Hamarville), you’ve ridden on tar and chips.

I agree it’s pretty terrible as a road surface, though once things settle (like, in the fall), it is better than riding on potholed concrete.


reddan
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My biggest beef with fresh tar and chip is that you often can’t tell where the hard road surface ends, and the soft shoulder begins. Makes for unpleasant surprises.


StuInMcCandless
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You can go in a straight line just fine, provided you are directly in front of someone’s headlights. Edge of road, forget it. Center of lane, forget it. Trying to corner or turn, forget it. Same goes for a motorcycle. And if it gets really hot, like about a week after they put it down, the really beaten down part gets the tar bubbling through, so you get tar specks all over the part of you that normally gets wet when it rains. Water evaporates; tar does not.


ejwme
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ARB was tar and chipped last night, in and outbound. Coal hollow will be done today in some direction (I saw them driving to it this AM).

it’s actually called “chip seal”. I know wikipedia is not exactly the most reliable of sources, but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chipseal seems to indicate it’s best for low-volume roads. I’m not kidding when I honestly ask – is ARB a low-volume road?


Marko82
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Interstate 90 in North Dakoda is tar-and-chip the whole way across the state. Surprisingly it is a very smooth ride.


StuInMcCandless
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Just to follow up, Perrysville is smooth as silk all the way from the city line to the lower Federal St corner. North of Marshall (where it’s US19) got redone in Sept 2011. South of it was completed last week (today is 5/23/2012, for future ref). Sooooo nice.

I hope this lasts a good long time.


rice rocket
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Is it a bus route, Stu?

If so, I’m gonna go with not gonna last real long. :)


StuInMcCandless
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Well, that’s why I date these posts. The northern piece is altogether different from the southern piece. Different contractor, different type of pavement, and now has one more winter on it than the southern part. But they get identical traffic. Let’s see how either one lasts.


rice rocket
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Good point, Stu.

On an unrelated note, do you know who to contact regarding the sidewalk on Bates St? Do we need to sue the gas company or something before they redo the concrete on it? It’s seriously abysmal coming up from Second Ave, and has been for almost a year now if I’m remembering this right.

I don’t mind riding down on street, but coming up, the difference in speed w/ traffic is above what I consider to be my limit, and it’s a blind corner w/ no shoulder as well.


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Greenfield Ave is so legit now. Also was happy to see Ellsworth paved, though when I rode it on Wednesday they only paved up to College Ave.


ejwme
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an update from PADOT:

The following includes paving schedule details for Oakland

Oakland

Morewood from Ellsworth to Forbes Avenue will be closed for milling on May 31st from 6:30 a.m. to 6:00 p.m.

On Friday June 1st beginning at 7:00 p.m. through Saturday June 2nd at 11:00 a.m. Bigelow from Parkman to Forbes Avenue as well as Craig Street from 5th to Forbes will be closed for milling.

For more information contact the City of Pittsburgh Department of Public Works (412) 255-2370.


Anonymous #

Brighton road is done and smooth with these cool new sharrows.


stefb
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That looks like a bike lane to me…

Also FINALLY MOREWOOD!!


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Yeaa but they have sharrows a bike lane and more sharrows.


quizbot
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Seen tonight on the rare drive home: Friendship Ave around the parklet has de facto bike lanes around both sides of the park.


quizbot
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Parking lanes are still there both ways, but it’s definitely an improvement.


salty
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interesting, i’ll have to check it out… too bad they didn’t move parking to the left westbound too.


quizbot
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Good point on moving the parking lane to match the other side. It wouldn’t be too hard to dig some holes & switch the meters. Mind the door zone.


ejwme
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sigh. I know they’re trying and I appreciate their efforts, but the new lane is just an illustration of precisely where cyclists should NOT be riding, is it not?


Benzo
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@ejwme, yeah, I agree on that point, you do want to avoid the door zone. I would have loved to see the parking switch sides.

At least it’s not as bad as on liberty avenue where there is a lot of people pulling in / out as well as entering and exiting vehicles frequently. Although, this makes it more surprising when they do.

Unfortunately, due to the narrowness of a lot of our streets, most of our bike lanes on streets with parking on the same side as the bike lane have no buffer zone between the bike lane and parked cars.


Benzo
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DOUBLE POST!


melange396
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moving the parking might actually create an extra spot or two since there arent intersecting roads in the way


Pseudacris
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Craig Street is on the Mill n Pave list for tomorrow (Monday 6/4/12):

http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/local/neighborhoods-city/milling-and-paving-set-for-city-streets-638774/


erok
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test


rsprake
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Re: Friendship. It would have been great if they could have moved the parking but that would take more money and staff. Although I would be willing to bet that we could have rounded up enough volunteers to do the work for them. :)


Pierce
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There are people in Portland who are frustrated because rather than getting dedicated bike infrastructure, people are settling for bike lanes

I wonder if we’re going in the same direction?


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@pierce Aren’t bike lanes a part of dedicated bike infrastructure? Or you mean completely separate as trails and bike lanes separated by barriers?


StuInMcCandless
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Unrelated data point: Quite a few streets in West View are getting new pavement recently: West View Park Drive and much of Center, for starters. Which is wonderful, because these were pothole-patch hell for a long time, and both are obvious alternatives to the big hill and horseshoe curve of Perry Hwy south of the boro.


robjdlc
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[This is in no way a slight against the bike lane effort and the work bikepgh is doing, I appreciate all of it]

In line with my previous comments about the traffic patterns along the magnate side of the friendship parklet and there not being enough room for bike lanes, I’m giving up on trying to use said bike lane for a while. 4 or 5 close calls in three days is just too much. (side view mirrors, confusion at intersections, entire cars in the lane)

I’m hoping that most of the traffic there is daily drivers and they’ll get used to it. Don’t feel I need to risk my person as a means of education.

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