Whistling past the graveyard?

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jbunik
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Just wondering if anyone knows whether it’s a-okay (or, frowned upon) to cut through any of the in-town cemetaries, specifically Allegheny Cem. (i.e. from Lawrenceville up to Penn)?

I guess Homewood Cem. too, while I’m asking for that matter…


rachel_ding
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Today I tried to ride through the cemetery from Butler St. I know that bikes aren’t allowed in, but I’ve never attempted to ride through to see what would happen since I don’t use the cemetery to commute, ever.

I should add that I looked pretty commuter-style with panniers and regular clothing – def. not going to go for a race. Someone earlier in the thread speculated that the signs were merely to deter people from training, but weren’t intended to keep the commuter out. Non-riders don’t seem to be able to differentiate between different types of riders and what type of ride they are doing, so the sign really does mean “No bikes.”

Guard: You can’t bike in here.

Me: Ok. Is the motorcycle which just passed allowed through?

Guard: Yes. It’s a motorized vehicle.

Me: What’s the problem with bikes?

Guard: Well, this is private property, and if we had a 100 bikes in here, and then someone got hit…

Me: Are people allowed to run in here?

Guard: Yes.

Me: And what if a runner got hit?

Guard: Then it’s on them.

Me: In that case, if I got hit, wouldn’t it be on me?

And so I walked. Good thing it was a nice day!

Private property is private property. The conversation went as expected. Still a bummer, but what can you do? (and yeah, as I was walking away from the guard I had all kinds of fuck cars and fuck this cemetery thoughts but it still comes down to the whole private property thing).

“if we had 100 bikes in here” – so typical.


netviln
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What would happen if there were 100 morotcycles? 100 runners? 100 cars? The argument is so invalid its rediculous, yeah.. it private property, its their rules, but they are silly.


Mick
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@rachel “if we had 100 bikes in here”

In that position, it would be hard for me to refrain from throwing my fist in the air in triumph:

“100 bikes? YEAH, DUDE!!!!”


Ohiojeff
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Dogs are not allowed in Homewood, but I believe bicycles are acceptable.


rachel_ding
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Yeah… totally had that in my mind. We had a pretty calm conversation and I didn’t wanna piss the dude off by being sassy.


rachel_ding
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@jeff – Yeah… I’ve biked through Homewood a bunch of times and no one’s ever said anything (I’ve also never seen a guard there).


Ohiojeff
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@rachel Me either. Except that there is someone who goes around and locks the gates in a car at closing time.


pratt
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I’m going to say bicycles are allowed in the Homewood Cemetery, as I’ve locked my bike right outside the office steps and met with the caretakers…never a mention I couldn’t cycle there.

Never really understood Allegheny Cemetery prohibiting bikes…yea go ahead and drive through but don’t let us catch you on a bike though. What if I was there visiting a grave? Love to hear how that conversation would go.


Lyle
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Bicycles are toys. No playing in cemeteries!

I ride through the Allegheny cemetery quite a bit, and I recommend it to people looking for a very low-traffic route up the hill. If they don’t like it, I’ll take the trespassing rap.

@netviln, re “private property”. There’s a point at which silly rules become antisocial. I don’t think we’d tolerate a sign that said “no Jews”. (which segues into a different gripe about segregated cemeteries…)

Actually, I think it would be a good idea if someone talked to the trustees about why they put such a sign up in the first place, and why not take it down…


rachel_ding
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On a more positive note, the pond in the cemetery has turtles, purple and orange gold-fish, and ducks in it!


t
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I don’t get the whole no bike thing in Allegheny cemetery, I live right near there and it’s a safe place to take the baby. Cars use it as a shortcut, I see commercial vehicles drive through all the time. Maybe I could put a motor on my bicycle, strap some ladders to it, then I guess it would be OK.


Boazo
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is skateboarding OK ?


nick
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do you really think you can out run a zombie on a bicycle?


Lyle
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zombies don’t eat cyclists.

That’s my new sticker slogan.


StuInMcCandless
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What they probably mean: “Homey doing tricks on a scraper bike, and dude going down the hill 35mph, are verboten, but someone dressed for a desk job and looking like s/he has a college degree, going barely faster than a walk, is OK, but we can’t say that on a sign so we have to ban everyone.”


pratt
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don’t worry about the zombies, at least at Homewood, they are on the case.


Kordite
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The bicycle is a major part of my Zombie Plan.


cburch
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thanks stu, now i have “scraper bike” running through my head for the rest of the day.

…scrapin’ on my scraper bike..


StuInMcCandless
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Has anyone tried _walking_ a bike thru Allegheny C.?


ieverhart
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During one of the thaws in the recent Snowmaggedon, I rode along Butler Street to Allegheny Cemetery and dismounted at the gate. There were some people there–I don’t know if they were cemetery staff or visitors–and I didn’t feel like getting called out. I walked uphill to Penn Avenue, which felt like it took forever. It looks like it’s just over a mile (assuming I took a mostly direct route) so at my normal urban walking pace, it would have been easily 20 minutes, and probably more, since I was going uphill. There were definitely stretches where I was pretty sure I was out of sight of any cemetery officials and I could have ridden the bike undetected, but I didn’t get on again until I hit Penn Avenue.

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