Winter riding conditions report

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jonawebb
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J Z
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1/26 10AM Bates St clear on the street, sidewalk is slushy mess. Sidewalk transition to EFT/Jail Trail on Second St. (including wooden bridge) is as expected, slushy mess. EFT/Jail Trail itself has bike/ped tracks and that wet heavy snow, expect slow going. Downtown is slightly slushy, but was warm enough that treatment was keeping it from freezing up. Still lightly coming down, I would expect a slow commute home.


StuInMcCandless
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It’s gonna get frigid in the next couple days. Any foot-packed slop this afternoon will be an unwalkable ice pack within 24 hours. Can we find someone to at least push a snow shovel along the Smithfield St Br sidewalk?


erok
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WillB
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This morning the Penn Ave lanes were uncleared except for a couple of blocks around 9th or 10th. Hopefully they won’t be the same slushy mess on the way home.


J Z
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1/26 5PM EFT/Jail Trail has 2-4 inches on it. Other intrepid trail users have been on it, it is slow going. Anticipate a slow commute tomorrow morning and leave early, did not encounter ice, but it’s thick and you will need to plow through. No friendly powder up in here.


Mikhail
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EFT has been cleaned up by PA, I just finished cleaning the ramp to 2nd and a little bit of sidewalk.


chrishent
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Downtown trail along the Allegheny is unplowed. The 7th St bridge sidewalks were somewhat plowed but it’s pretty packed down right now so I imagine it will become icy. I would assume that the other two bridges are the same. The roads are fine, though.

Penn Ave lane had not been plowed properly as of 7 pm, but it’s passable.


J Z
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1/27 7:45AM Bates Street is clear, Bates Street sidewalk is compacted snow and slick. Second street sidewalk access to EFT/Jail Trail is compacted snow, except for 1/3 of it that looks like someone shoveled a 2 ft path to the ramp and shoveled the ramp, too (thanks for that, btw). From the wooden access ramp to the Blvd of the Allies flyover (Armstrong tunnel), it has been plowed 3-4 ft path (is that DPW 3rd division, if so, great job). From the flyover to the parking lot on Second before the jail, expect 3-4 inches of powder on top of remelted rutted ice crust. Slow and difficult, power through to the parking lot, then ride through the parking lot and if so inclined, you can connect back to the trail before the parking garage. That is clear. Downtown is sloppy.


erok
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junction hollow trail was cleared


chrishent
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If you can’t bike on the Pittsburgh trails, you can at least go dogsledding:

Pittsburgh Dog Sledding: http://youtu.be/L8JCHhU-MnU


Benzo
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Interesting.

It appears that EFT and Junction Hollow Trail were cleared last night and possibly more recently.

However, there seems to be no visible activity on the snow plow tracker. I wonder if it limits tracks to roads, and it’s not tracking history on trails, even when going all the way back to 1/26 at 12:50pm

Is it DPW who clears these? Or is it parks?


erok
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fairly certain it’s dpw


Steven
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The tracker knows about roads, since you can click on a road and it’ll show you data for it. Most likely they didn’t think to include trails as a type of road when they implemented it. I’ll 311 the problem.


mjacobPGH
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Not every DPW vehicle has GPS, so it is possible that if DPW cleared the EFT the vehicle that did it would not show on the tracker.


Marko82
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It would be cool to have GPS on those dogs too! Thanks for posting.


J Z
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Here’s a question, why only do half of EFT/Jail Trail? The segment that was done looks like it stopped where the dirt ramp access goes down to Second. After that, hadn’t been touched. Is that a function of that part of the trail being part of Division 6, or just more difficult to reach that section? City is at “Snow Level 0” now, should we expect it to be done, or do we need to submit some 311s?


mjacobPGH
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Steven
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Got a response.

There’s no harm in 311’ing about the cleared/uncleared trail sections, even if the response is “We need X more hours to finish every street and trail.”


J Z
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@mjacobpgh A little further up towards town, but from there to the parking lot before the jail is rough going.

1/27 5PM Outbound EFT. That snowy/icy segment of EFT/Jail Trail still untouched, 311’ed it, but the more the merrier would likely help. Pretty much the same as 1/27 7:45AM


J Z
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@mikhail just caught that you cleared the ramp and were responsible for the cleared section of sidewalk, thanks.

1/28 7:30AM EFT/Jail trail is the same, that section is still uncleared and now is getting packed down by peds/riders.


chrishent
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PG’s Photo of the Day:

16th St Bridge


WillB
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Penn Ave lane is still a mess. They must have plowed it at some point, but it’s slushy the whole way in, and dangerously icy-looking in several places. Anyone know how the Schenley lane is? Any better?


J Z
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1/28 5:45PM @mjacobpgh is legit. EFT has been plowed, some of that compacted snow/ice that won’t come up, but none of that 3 inch rutted stuff that has you fishtailing all over the place.


neilmd
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I passed a plough clearing the shoulders along Schenley Dr this am and this evening the shoulders were clear and dry. Of course they are not officially bike lanes but that is splitting hairs…


mjacobPGH
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I really didn’t have anything to do with the EFT being plowed, that’s a result of the 311 requests so keep that up. Glad to hear it was taken care of though! :)


stefb
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The Liberty Avenue Bike lane outbound had a lot of black ice, especially going up the hill from the strip.


stefb
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1/30 5-6am
Lots of snow covered roads. trails are unplowed with a nice thin layer of snow to ride on.
Blvd of the Allies downtown is a sheet of ice. Be careful. It was ok on a fat bike with less than 10psi. Fort Duquesne bridge was snow covered with a slushy under layer and a lot of footprints


chrishent
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1/30 7:00 am

As Stef said, downtown streets in general are slick this morning. Thin layer of snow/ice. I would not expect the Penn Ave lanes to be treated.

Be careful out there


J Z
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1/30 7:45AM Bates St. in good shape going towards Second. 1/2-1 inch of new powder on EFT/Jail Trail, be wary and conscious of Smithfield Street bridge, downtown streets are garbage and very slick, compacted snow, melting slush on top of that. Take extra time and be very cautious this morning.


StuInMcCandless
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I didn’t ride this morning, but rode the length of the Penn Ave lane around 7 last night. Lots of meltwater, both moving and puddles, which I’m sure froze quickly overnight.


neilmd
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Pretty slippy. All good with 40mm studded tires, but highly variable road conditions, from untreated to heavily salted and clear of slush. Most roads have at least been sanded. Last night was overall worse than this morning.


stefb
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Just wondering who the genius was that plowed the fort Duquesne pedestrian bridge and didn’t salt. It would have been best left the way it was with a layer of snow on it. The whole entire thing is ice. I actually walked because I don’t have studded tires. It was slippery even as a pedestrian. Who is in charge of treating that?
The jail trail and junction holow trail were nice because they weren’t plowed. I would rather these trails not get plowed because then we will have exposed ice.


gg
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The Highland Park Bridge sidewalk it a mess, but ridable for the most part. PennDot of course just plows the snow from the road right on top of the sidewalk, but that is what we expect here. Most roads up through One Wild Place and Highland Park are in pretty good shape.

I still can’t get over the amount of cyclists I am seeing this winter. Nice to have some company for a change. I was out last night at after 11:00PM and even saw someone riding down Highland.


Chris Mayhew
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1/31 11a From American Eagle, over the Hot Metal Bridge then EFT to the parking lot is a tundra of sheet ice.


chrishent
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1/31 4:30 pm

Jail trail is very rideable with a few spots of snow here and there. There were a few puddles, though, so watch out for black ice tonight and tomorrow morning. The Panther Hollow trail is mostly covered in snow, but it’s passable. The Saline St cycle track is passable, too, but majority is covered in snow


Marko82
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2/1 4:00pm

The trail through panther hollow & Saline cycle track have not been plowed at all. Jail trail must have been plowed at some point but an inch of snow covere right now. HM bridge not plowed & very icy.

I managed all of the above with my MTB, but probably would have had to walk had I been on the road bike.


J Z
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2/2 8:15AM Windy out.

Bates St. clear, Bates street sidewalk in bad shape.

Second St. run up to wooden ramp has some residual tamped down snow that is wet.

EFT/Jail Trail is mostly clear, but there are brief sections of tamped down snow/ice that is/was wet.

Was warm >32F when I was out, but the current temp is purportedly 28F. Assuming that’s true, could make for some potentially hazardous riding.


StuInMcCandless
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It’s supposed to get real cold during the day, sub-20, so any wet spots are certain to become icy.


reddan
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2/2 4:00 PM
Ft Duquesne walkway is a deathtrap near the North Shore end. Pretty much solid ice, half an inch thick or more, from the second switchback until the bridge levels out. Walkable by clinging to the railing, but not advised.

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